Comments on: Researchers develop “paper” battery that could see use in hybrids http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jobernberger http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330603 jobernberger Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:41:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330603 So - if the battery is in the door panels and headliner, replacing the battery might be somewhat problematic... The problem with hybrids are the batteries - they don't last forever, they are heavy, and their performance becomes worse with time. How nice would it be to have a car that becomes slower the longer you have it? Maybe these batteries are different? So – if the battery is in the door panels and headliner, replacing the battery might be somewhat problematic…
The problem with hybrids are the batteries – they don’t last forever, they are heavy, and their performance becomes worse with time. How nice would it be to have a car that becomes slower the longer you have it? Maybe these batteries are different?

]]> By: gumball http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330421 gumball Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:32:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330421 who cares who makes it or distributes it, it's paper that stores power, duh, scientific breakthrough not an Ipod battery. who cares who makes it or distributes it, it’s paper that stores power, duh, scientific breakthrough not an Ipod battery.

]]> By: swamprat http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330384 swamprat Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:29:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330384 CTS Driver - The Chinese will get it shortly after the Japanese give it to them. CTS Driver – The Chinese will get it shortly after the Japanese give it to them.

]]> By: Aston Martin http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330343 Aston Martin Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:20:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330343 ^Amazing they didn't delete that post but got rid of all the others... ^Amazing they didn’t delete that post but got rid of all the others…

]]> By: AgmLauncher http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330276 AgmLauncher Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:29:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330276 "We invent, other countries take it and make it viable for manufacture and product placement. That has never been our expertise. Its a good world team effort." This isn't playschool. This is life. Fantasy ideals like "world team effort" "we are all one" are crap. At the end of the day, the US government and US corporations have a duty and obligation to make their home nation prosperous. The US will turn into a 3rd world country if we don't start competing with the rest of the world again.... Fuck team effort. I like my running water........... “We invent, other countries take it and make it viable for manufacture and product placement. That has never been our expertise. Its a good world team effort.”

This isn’t playschool. This is life. Fantasy ideals like “world team effort” “we are all one” are crap. At the end of the day, the US government and US corporations have a duty and obligation to make their home nation prosperous.

The US will turn into a 3rd world country if we don’t start competing with the rest of the world again….

Fuck team effort. I like my running water………..

]]> By: BLISS http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330247 BLISS Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:11:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330247 AMAZING DEVELOPMENT AMAZING DEVELOPMENT

]]> By: Deanster http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330145 Deanster Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:49:12 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330145 You idiots, all of you. Why is there a glove holding it? It's a photo op, to look "scientific." Advertising. You idiots, all of you.

Why is there a glove holding it? It’s a photo op, to look “scientific.” Advertising.

]]> By: CTS DRIVER http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330127 CTS DRIVER Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:34:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330127 ^dont leave 1115 out lp640 ^dont leave 1115 out lp640

]]> By: LP640 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330080 LP640 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:53:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330080 ^ AGREED RICARDOHEAD I MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE RETIRED FORD CHIEF AND MY POST WAS DELETED INSTANTLY YET GMLOSER GETS AWAY WITH TALKING CRAP 24/7 TO THE LLN MODERATORS PLEASE HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR AND STOP DELETING USEFUL COMMENTS THANKS :) ^ AGREED RICARDOHEAD I MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE RETIRED FORD CHIEF AND MY POST WAS DELETED INSTANTLY YET GMLOSER GETS AWAY WITH TALKING CRAP 24/7 TO THE LLN MODERATORS PLEASE HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR AND STOP DELETING USEFUL COMMENTS
THANKS :)

]]> By: Blakkarr http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330074 Blakkarr Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:45:01 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330074 More like American companies either turn their noses up at it or Foreign companies cut the better deal. More like American companies either turn their noses up at it or Foreign companies cut the better deal.

]]> By: Karkat http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330063 Karkat Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:43:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330063 We invent, other countries take it and make it viable for manufacture and product placement. That has never been our expertise. Its a good world team effort. We invent, other countries take it and make it viable for manufacture and product placement. That has never been our expertise. Its a good world team effort.

]]> By: AgmLauncher http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330053 AgmLauncher Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:41:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330053 I don't get it. Why is it that America always introduces this new sort of technology, but it never makes it into American products to make them better and give them a competitive advantage over other nations. It makes no sense! I don’t get it. Why is it that America always introduces this new sort of technology, but it never makes it into American products to make them better and give them a competitive advantage over other nations.

It makes no sense!

]]> By: Scott Kempton http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330052 Scott Kempton Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:41:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330052 Available for use as early as 2020!? That's 13 years from now! By then, we'll all be in flying cars using a nuclear power plant that fits in the glove box! Available for use as early as 2020!? That’s 13 years from now! By then, we’ll all be in flying cars using a nuclear power plant that fits in the glove box!

]]> By: RicardoHead http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330032 RicardoHead Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:10:34 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330032 LLN's "moderators" are becoming hypersensitive with their deletion bullcrap. I made a post discussing how to recharge a hybrid by using the paper battery as toilet paper and they deleted it. The only "bad word" I used was another word for a donkey. They deleted it. Insane how infantile these politically correct monkeys can be. LLN’s “moderators” are becoming hypersensitive with their deletion bullcrap. I made a post discussing how to recharge a hybrid by using the paper battery as toilet paper and they deleted it. The only “bad word” I used was another word for a donkey. They deleted it. Insane how infantile these politically correct monkeys can be.

]]> By: LP640 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330026 LP640 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:59:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330026 its being held by gloves beacuse they dont want to damage it . this is good progress it will finally make hybrids useful its being held by gloves beacuse they dont want to damage it .
this is good progress it will finally make hybrids useful

]]> By: Commodore http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330020 Commodore Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:52:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330020 Good job Japan! A leader in eco-friendlyness once again "Americans are dumb. They are fat and lazy and they can't do anything because they are stupid hillbillies" Good job Japan! A leader in eco-friendlyness once again

“Americans are dumb. They are fat and lazy and they can’t do anything because they are stupid hillbillies”

]]> By: Aston Martin http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330002 Aston Martin Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:29:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-330002 Who invented this? Scientists. Did Al Gore play a part? No. Were the Liberal Democrats involved? No. Will it help save the planet? Yes. Will political ravings save the planet? No. Point proven. Who invented this? Scientists.

Did Al Gore play a part? No.

Were the Liberal Democrats involved? No.

Will it help save the planet? Yes.

Will political ravings save the planet? No.

Point proven.

]]> By: Driven http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329993 Driven Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:17:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329993 55amg, I have been enjoying reading insightful comments about the articles without GM_Sales off topic input. Please dont give him reason to return & muck up the comments section, again. 55amg, I have been enjoying reading insightful comments about the articles without GM_Sales off topic input. Please dont give him reason to return & muck up the comments section, again.

]]> By: Vipallica http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329986 Vipallica Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:13:16 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329986 Sounds interesting... Sounds interesting…

]]> By: short shifter http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329983 short shifter Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:09:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329983 this is definately going to encourage high performance hybrids... less weight, more power... and not to mention they can place these batteries wherever they want allowing for perfect 50/50 weight distribution. this is definately going to encourage high performance hybrids… less weight, more power… and not to mention they can place these batteries wherever they want allowing for perfect 50/50 weight distribution.

]]> By: 55amg http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329982 55amg Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:09:51 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329982 i wonder what GM_sales take on this would be i wonder what GM_sales take on this would be

]]> By: 1c3d0g http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329975 1c3d0g Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:59:21 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329975 Hybrids FTL. Hybrids FTL.

]]> By: driver54 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329974 driver54 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:58:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329974 Good point Rotman, you can fit more batteries to offer longer battery life. Good point Rotman, you can fit more batteries to offer longer battery life.

]]> By: Blakkarr http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329969 Blakkarr Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:43:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329969 Driven, We are looking at a lab photo. Of course, that hand is going to be gloved as to not damage the research. Even though microchips are generally non-toxic, I would want to eat one, they are heavily protected against direct physical contact to prevent damage. I would expect consumer Paper batteries to be similarly protected. after all, I bet they are easily damaged by water. Autonut, That brings up the question: How will these batteries compare, in terms of fire safety, against Li-Po (Lithium polymer) batteries. Li-Po batteries have an alcohol based ionic transfer medium, which when heated because of high energy transfer, usually during charging but discharging can do it too, can catch fire. The Storage medium produces oxygen during charge or discharge. The battery, itself is the fuel for a fire. A paper battery would likely be fire-proofed or at least have its ignition temperature raised above 451 degrees Fahrenheit. This could be a marketing disaster waiting to happen. Driven,

We are looking at a lab photo. Of course, that hand is going to be gloved as to not damage the research. Even though microchips are generally non-toxic, I would want to eat one, they are heavily protected against direct physical contact to prevent damage. I would expect consumer Paper batteries to be similarly protected. after all, I bet they are easily damaged by water.

Autonut,

That brings up the question: How will these batteries compare, in terms of fire safety, against Li-Po (Lithium polymer) batteries. Li-Po batteries have an alcohol based ionic transfer medium, which when heated because of high energy transfer, usually during charging but discharging can do it too, can catch fire. The Storage medium produces oxygen during charge or discharge. The battery, itself is the fuel for a fire.

A paper battery would likely be fire-proofed or at least have its ignition temperature raised above 451 degrees Fahrenheit. This could be a marketing disaster waiting to happen.

]]> By: CTS DRIVER http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329964 CTS DRIVER Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:38:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329964 yet another fantastic american invention that will change the world. take note japan you can steal this in a couple years yet another fantastic american invention that will change the world. take note japan you can steal this in a couple years

]]> By: autonut http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329931 autonut Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:34:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329931 ... and when it runs out of juice you can start fire with it.. … and when it runs out of juice you can start fire with it..

]]> By: 67_L-88 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329927 67_L-88 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:28:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329927 Now that is cool. Hopefully this catches on, and the electric car will no longer be a pipe dream. Now that is cool. Hopefully this catches on, and the electric car will no longer be a pipe dream.

]]> By: Rotman http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329917 Rotman Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:18:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329917 Nice invention. Would be nice to be able to use my cell phone for a month without charging. @Driven, posted on September21 at 10:06 am Probably to protect the paper from acids and fats on the skin. Nice invention. Would be nice to be able to use my cell phone for a month without charging.

@Driven, posted on September21 at 10:06 am

Probably to protect the paper from acids and fats on the skin.

]]> By: Fletch http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329915 Fletch Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:15:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329915 New technology is fascinating, I hope they are successful and can sell this technology all over the world. My guess is gas will be $10/gal by 2020. New technology is fascinating, I hope they are successful and can sell this technology all over the world.

My guess is gas will be $10/gal by 2020.

]]> By: Veda http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329910 Veda Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:10:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329910 Or cellphones... Or cellphones…

]]> By: snoboardguy21 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329909 snoboardguy21 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:07:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329909 Not to mention our iPod nano's will get even THINNER! wow! Not to mention our iPod nano’s will get even THINNER! wow!

]]> By: Driven http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329908 Driven Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:06:32 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-paper-battery-that-could-see-use-in-hybrids.html#comment-329908 "the cellulose-derived batteries are non-toxic" If its non-toxic why is the photo of a rubber glove covered hand holding the paper battery? “the cellulose-derived batteries are non-toxic”
If its non-toxic why is the photo of a rubber glove covered hand holding the paper battery?

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