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	<title>Comments on: Researchers develop sci-fi method for catching car thieves</title>
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		<title>By: J.A.N.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-274028</link>
		<dc:creator>J.A.N.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make a public spectacle of the thief by showing what a jack-ass he is...I like it!</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 06:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now if only we could come up with a use/explanation for the three sea shells...</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267917</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 06:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Demolition Man! Sly Stalone was on to something...</description>
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		<title>By: A non E Moose</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267486</link>
		<dc:creator>A non E Moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Manhattan, I disagree.  While I do not think the foam would be instananteous and stop the motion of the person immediately, airbags and belts have give in them, but they ALSO stop the movement of the body, and the brain and internal organs will still continue to move as well.  It is not like seatbelts slow you and carefully bring you to a stop.  They jerk tight.  Your internal organs still &quot;move&quot; from the inertia.  An airbag stops you, but you can still get whiplash, and your brain also keeps sloshing around in your head.

Now, since this is still &quot;science fiction&quot; in the sense that it will never come to market in my lifetime, my point was more to focus on a safety item, than a security one.  The time to deploy the foam and make it expand and &quot;harden&quot; would be similar to an airbag deployment.  There would still be some movement as it &quot;hardened&quot; of the person, so it would act exactly like an airbag, but would stop everything including the limbs (which airbags do not do.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Manhattan, I disagree.  While I do not think the foam would be instananteous and stop the motion of the person immediately, airbags and belts have give in them, but they ALSO stop the movement of the body, and the brain and internal organs will still continue to move as well.  It is not like seatbelts slow you and carefully bring you to a stop.  They jerk tight.  Your internal organs still &#8220;move&#8221; from the inertia.  An airbag stops you, but you can still get whiplash, and your brain also keeps sloshing around in your head.</p>
<p>Now, since this is still &#8220;science fiction&#8221; in the sense that it will never come to market in my lifetime, my point was more to focus on a safety item, than a security one.  The time to deploy the foam and make it expand and &#8220;harden&#8221; would be similar to an airbag deployment.  There would still be some movement as it &#8220;hardened&#8221; of the person, so it would act exactly like an airbag, but would stop everything including the limbs (which airbags do not do.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dr*Manhattan</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267452</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr*Manhattan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A non E Moose, and (V)ike -- While these safety systems both sound somewhat desireable at the outset, there is one major flaw that would prevent them from coming to production...

According to physics, an object in motion will tend to stay in motion.  Therefore, if an unrestrained individual in a car crashes, their body will fly forward at the speed the car was travelling just before it crashed.  Once the person hits, say, the dashboard or windshield, their brain and internal organs will continue to travel at the same speed that the body was travelling, which is the same speed as the car.  This is known as &quot;inertia&quot;.

Crash dynamics have been a constant throughout history.  If you fall down and hit your head, you sometimes become knocked out.  This is because the brain waves in your brain are temporarily interrupted.  If you hit your head harder, the brain waves can be interrupted so severly that the resulting injury could result in a coma, or even death.

With modern car design, vehicles have been engineered to **absorb** the energy, so that by the time the resulting inertia (crash force) impacts upon the driver and passengers, it has been significantly reduced.

This can be seen in the forms of, in order or a frontal crash:
1. 5 MPH bumpers - absorb energy in minor collisions.
2. Crumple zones - areas designed to deform during a crash to dissapate energy
3. The &#039;safety cell&#039; of the car is designed to *not* bedn or crumple, it acts as the true armor in a crash

Inside the car, we have the following systems:

1. pretensioning seatbelts 
2. airbags

All of the above absorb energy, depending on the crash.  In the very best case scenerio, only the bumpers will absorb energy from very low-speed impacts, and the driver &amp; passengers will feel a little bump.  If a car was built completly rigid, you would feel quite a bit more of a shock.  In the worst-case scenerio, all of the above would work together, which is why sometimes there are car wrecks where the car is completly destroyed, but the driver and passengers remain unhurt.

If the safety foam from &quot;Demolition Man&quot; (the Sylvester Stallone film) were to be brought into production, it would mitigate the entire point of the seatbelts and the airbags.  Once a car was involved in a collision, if this quick-acting safety foam was to be deployed, it would stop the driver &amp; passengers immediaetly, while their internal organs and brain would be pushed up against their ribs, and the front of their skull, respectively, resulting in serious injuries that with today&#039;s current technology, may only result in a minor injury, if any injury at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A non E Moose, and (V)ike &#8212; While these safety systems both sound somewhat desireable at the outset, there is one major flaw that would prevent them from coming to production&#8230;</p>
<p>According to physics, an object in motion will tend to stay in motion.  Therefore, if an unrestrained individual in a car crashes, their body will fly forward at the speed the car was travelling just before it crashed.  Once the person hits, say, the dashboard or windshield, their brain and internal organs will continue to travel at the same speed that the body was travelling, which is the same speed as the car.  This is known as &#8220;inertia&#8221;.</p>
<p>Crash dynamics have been a constant throughout history.  If you fall down and hit your head, you sometimes become knocked out.  This is because the brain waves in your brain are temporarily interrupted.  If you hit your head harder, the brain waves can be interrupted so severly that the resulting injury could result in a coma, or even death.</p>
<p>With modern car design, vehicles have been engineered to **absorb** the energy, so that by the time the resulting inertia (crash force) impacts upon the driver and passengers, it has been significantly reduced.</p>
<p>This can be seen in the forms of, in order or a frontal crash:<br />
1. 5 MPH bumpers &#8211; absorb energy in minor collisions.<br />
2. Crumple zones &#8211; areas designed to deform during a crash to dissapate energy<br />
3. The &#8216;safety cell&#8217; of the car is designed to *not* bedn or crumple, it acts as the true armor in a crash</p>
<p>Inside the car, we have the following systems:</p>
<p>1. pretensioning seatbelts<br />
2. airbags</p>
<p>All of the above absorb energy, depending on the crash.  In the very best case scenerio, only the bumpers will absorb energy from very low-speed impacts, and the driver &amp; passengers will feel a little bump.  If a car was built completly rigid, you would feel quite a bit more of a shock.  In the worst-case scenerio, all of the above would work together, which is why sometimes there are car wrecks where the car is completly destroyed, but the driver and passengers remain unhurt.</p>
<p>If the safety foam from &#8220;Demolition Man&#8221; (the Sylvester Stallone film) were to be brought into production, it would mitigate the entire point of the seatbelts and the airbags.  Once a car was involved in a collision, if this quick-acting safety foam was to be deployed, it would stop the driver &amp; passengers immediaetly, while their internal organs and brain would be pushed up against their ribs, and the front of their skull, respectively, resulting in serious injuries that with today&#8217;s current technology, may only result in a minor injury, if any injury at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Luc</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267438</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Luc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shades of Demolition Man? Not an original idea, but who foots the bill when the foam stains my leather?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shades of Demolition Man? Not an original idea, but who foots the bill when the foam stains my leather?</p>
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		<title>By: (V)ike</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267431</link>
		<dc:creator>(V)ike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I guess it pays to read everybodies comments... A non mentioned the same thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I guess it pays to read everybodies comments&#8230; A non mentioned the same thing</p>
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		<title>By: (V)ike</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267430</link>
		<dc:creator>(V)ike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is like what the police cars had in Demolition Man when they crashed... Maybe be a better use of this technology if it is instantanious. Kind of like an airbag, but holds the entire body still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is like what the police cars had in Demolition Man when they crashed&#8230; Maybe be a better use of this technology if it is instantanious. Kind of like an airbag, but holds the entire body still.</p>
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		<title>By: A non E Moose</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267406</link>
		<dc:creator>A non E Moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of focusing on a security systme for this technology, they should focus on a safety system.  There are already enough lawsuits now, imagine the thief suing and winning since he got &quot;burned&quot; by the hot wire.

As a safety system (like in the cheesy Stallone movie), the foam could deploy like an airbag system during a crash.  Imagine how few injuries there could be.  Nothing flying around in the car to hit you, no flailing limbs or glass.  And the added benefit could be fire resistance and/or imobility if bones are broken.

What they really need is a fast acting (miliseconds) foam, that then breaks down after say 15 seconds or so, so you can be extricated quickly if need be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of focusing on a security systme for this technology, they should focus on a safety system.  There are already enough lawsuits now, imagine the thief suing and winning since he got &#8220;burned&#8221; by the hot wire.</p>
<p>As a safety system (like in the cheesy Stallone movie), the foam could deploy like an airbag system during a crash.  Imagine how few injuries there could be.  Nothing flying around in the car to hit you, no flailing limbs or glass.  And the added benefit could be fire resistance and/or imobility if bones are broken.</p>
<p>What they really need is a fast acting (miliseconds) foam, that then breaks down after say 15 seconds or so, so you can be extricated quickly if need be.</p>
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		<title>By: wetstuff</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267392</link>
		<dc:creator>wetstuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make sure there&#039;s Cyanide in the foam mix.  Put a &quot;Key in Car&quot; sticker on the window inviting the dirtballs. 

j i m</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make sure there&#8217;s Cyanide in the foam mix.  Put a &#8220;Key in Car&#8221; sticker on the window inviting the dirtballs. </p>
<p>j i m</p>
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		<title>By: Eisen Faust</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267372</link>
		<dc:creator>Eisen Faust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that system is seriously avaliable in South Africa without a word of a lie</description>
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		<title>By: WEKS</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267369</link>
		<dc:creator>WEKS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 08:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; Eisen Faust
I just saw that spray thing in a movie, nice try though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; Eisen Faust<br />
I just saw that spray thing in a movie, nice try though.</p>
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		<title>By: Vel</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267362</link>
		<dc:creator>Vel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about unbreakable glass and stronger doorlock systems? It could be so simple...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about unbreakable glass and stronger doorlock systems? It could be so simple&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eisen Faust</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267331</link>
		<dc:creator>Eisen Faust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In South Africa where car theft and crime in general is extremely high you can get a system of flamethrowers that shoot out from under the car and directly up the sides to cook anyone tampering with the locks or glass. 

For a while a spray was also avaliable that you can apply to the door handles with a chemical that leeches through the fingertips and causes paralysis and death to people trying the handle. It didnt take off because people were forgeting the accompaning neutralizing spray and were unable to open their cars. All True!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In South Africa where car theft and crime in general is extremely high you can get a system of flamethrowers that shoot out from under the car and directly up the sides to cook anyone tampering with the locks or glass. </p>
<p>For a while a spray was also avaliable that you can apply to the door handles with a chemical that leeches through the fingertips and causes paralysis and death to people trying the handle. It didnt take off because people were forgeting the accompaning neutralizing spray and were unable to open their cars. All True!</p>
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		<title>By: Renton</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267329</link>
		<dc:creator>Renton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once my car is stolen,  I want the car to disintegrate.  I never want it back.

I also would like the thief to burn up as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once my car is stolen,  I want the car to disintegrate.  I never want it back.</p>
<p>I also would like the thief to burn up as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there should be a system to instantly kill thieves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there should be a system to instantly kill thieves</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/researchers-develop-sci-fi-method-for-catching-car-thieves.html#comment-267324</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that we&#039;re getting creative, how about carbon monoxide filling the cabin?

That ice pick method mentioned above requires too much clean up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that we&#8217;re getting creative, how about carbon monoxide filling the cabin?</p>
<p>That ice pick method mentioned above requires too much clean up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim in LA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i prefer the 6000 SUX method of instant electrocution for my vehicle protection system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i prefer the 6000 SUX method of instant electrocution for my vehicle protection system.</p>
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		<title>By: BAMF</title>
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		<dc:creator>BAMF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cant wait to see the video...</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Dillon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Dillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awwww i want that so bad. why cant they just have a huge ice pick shoot out of the dash that sounds gruesome too!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awwww i want that so bad. why cant they just have a huge ice pick shoot out of the dash that sounds gruesome too!!!</p>
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