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Review: 2008 Audi S5

03/12/2008, 4:19 PM

By Nick

The marketplace for luxury high-performance coupes, once largely defined by the BMW M3, has been getting more crowded recently. Nevertheless, Audi still believes that there is room for one more offering, introducing the new S5 this summer. The S5 certainly meets the minimum entry requirements, mounting a 4.2-liter V8 and six-speed manual transmission that can take the car to sixty mph in a whisker over five seconds, a sports suspension that can handle the twisty bits with aplomb, and tuner brakes tucked into 19-inch alloy wheels that can bring the car to a halt from sixty at a rate that will throw passengers firmly into the seatbelts.

All of that performance is packaged in a sleek new body style that literally stopped pedestrians and passing drivers in their tracks in this normally car-blasé little town.

Backstory

Over the past ten years, whenever any motoring writer has been given the keys to a mid-sized coupe or sedan with a stick-shift and a motor putting out more than 300 horsepower, its manufacturer would say the car was the new competition to the BMW 3-Series. Needless to say, these cars have generally fallen short of that benchmark.

But it takes true self-confidence, or perhaps chutzpah, to introduce a new car that is intended to be competitive with the M3. To be fair, Audi doesn’t actually say that the S5 is an M3 challenger. However, when they advertise their car as the high-performance version of their new A5 sports coupe, they give it a V8 engine and six-speed manual transmission, equip it with all the high performance visual cues and equipment as standard, and then price it within a few hundred dollars of the M3, the marketing target is obvious.

We just had a full week to drive the Audi S5, with glorious northern California spring weather inviting us back up into the coastal backroads that were recently populated by American journalists trying out the new BMW line-up. We couldn’t resist the temptation to take the S5 over the same roads on which we sampled the M3, and the comparisons and contrasts really helped put the S5 into perspective.

Aesthetics (3.5 of 5)

Opinions differ widely about the attractiveness of Audi’s new large signature center grille – actually two grilles, one above and one below the bumper, visually linked with a single chrome surround – but no one seeing the car approaching or in their rear view mirror will doubt that it’s an Audi. With a light color exterior, like the ibis white that we drove, the imposing grille looks a little piggish. However, in the available deep sea blue, phantom black or brilliant black, the horizontal central panel of the grille blends with the body color to create a two-grille effect like previous-generation Audis that borders on attractive.

The purposive and functional aero-effect panels that are standard on the S5, and distinguish it from the more demure A5, are quite dramatic. Accented by a dramatic use of l.e.d. running lights underlining the headlights, they convey a strong high-performance image.

From the side, with the sleek greenhouse flowing smoothly into the rear quarters, the car looks as if it is clearly intended for speed, and the rippling feature lines along the side panels accent that impression. We found that a rear three-quarter angle was really the prettiest way to photograph the car, with the trunk, spoiler, and fender lines above the quad tail pipes distinct improvements over anything BMW is designing.

At the end of the day, however, the S5 does not come off looking nearly as interesting as the sum of its parts. Oddly, most of the sheetmetal’s nuances that one could rightly call beautiful will go unnoticed to the untrained eye. In trying to make the A5/S5 look understated, Audi seemingly de-emphasized design cues that would look much more appealing if exaggerated. (The headlights, beltline, and window profile come to mind.)

Cabin (5 of 5)

In recent years, Audi has clearly raised the bar for interior quality and styling, and the S5 version earns high marks, managing to encourage the enthusiast driver, while at the same time complimenting his or her sense of style. Prada would look as appropriate as Piloti on the pedals of the S5.

Perhaps taking a leaf from the Bentley (or MINI Cooper) playbooks, owners can pick from a range of rich interior colors, including Alcantara and leather in black or silver/ black, or cloth and leather in deep red, glove brown, or black. Accent trim is available in brushed chrome, deep walnut, or ebony black. This is certainly a welcome change from the black on black on black interiors of many other performance automobiles.

Enhancing the performance image of the interior, the driver’s gauges and screens are grouped under a single cowl in front of the driver that sweeps down into the center stack. A small read-out screen which provides a digital indicator of speed, navigation instructions, or audio information is placed conveniently between the white-on-black tachometer and speedometer. More detailed information, including the navigation maps, radio stations, audio or hvac data is displayed on a standard-sized screen immediately to the right under the cowl.

Unfortunately, the placement of control buttons is much less ergonomic, with the key controls for the navigation and audio, fifteen buttons in all, placed on the console behind the gear shift, requiring the driver to look down from the road to select from among them. Perhaps we are to assume these controls were only intended to be operated by the co-pilot.

Space in the coupe, even in the back seats, is exceptional because of the 108 inch wheelbase, very long for a two-door car. Though the back-seat passengers will have to be fairly agile to slide between the b-pillar and the front seat, as long as they and the front-seat passengers are both under six feet tall, they will all be quite comfortable once inside.

One unusual standard feature on the S5 is the sunroof, which admits sunlight and brightens the interior. But it can only be opened a crack at the rear for ventilation, rather than sliding back as does virtually every other sunroof. No romantic warm evening star-gazing will be going on in this coupe.

Technology (4 of 5)

To achieve the S5’s fine handling and quick power response, Audi resorts more to fundamental physics than high-tech electronics. The all-wheel quattro system which Audi pioneered over two decades ago and has been fine-tuning ever since, coupled to a multi-link sports suspension, does as much to keep the car planted and stable in quick corners as any other manufacturer’s electronically-adjustable shocks and stability control systems.

Likewise, power comes from a naturally-aspirated V8 engine putting out a more-than-adequate 354 horsepower and 325 pound-feet of torque. Redlined at a reasonable seven grand, it provides exceptional acceleration at all speeds and in all six gears. As far as we’re concerned, the 5.1-second zero-to-sixty capability is as fast as we’re comfortable with on onramps, and whatever we’ll be giving up in straight-line performance on the track, we think can be made up in the corners.

Fuel efficiency is on the negative side of the equation. With gasoline pushing four bucks per gallon, and one station on the California coast now charging over five bucks for regular, it’s just a little hard to rationalize 14 mpg city/21 mpg except to say that’s exactly the same rating as the new M3.

But while we’re on the subject of technology, subtract the rest of one point for Audi’s MMI operating system. This screen/knob system was a step ahead of the BMW iDrive system a few years ago, but has gotten worse as they’ve attempted to improve it. To say the system is “unnecessarily complicated” as Consumer Reports does, is understating the problem.

The approach of controlling vehicle functions by using successive computer screens was supposed to replace hard-to-find buttons, but in the last two incarnations, Audi has simply added back the buttons in order to provide short-cuts to the computer screens. If we didn’t like the back-up camera so much, with distance and targetting lines on the screen that pivot with the steering to show exactly where we were going when backing-up, we’d punt the optional navi system entirely.

Performance (5 of 5)

Enough of this sitting around and admiring styling and statistics, let’s drive. To put our S5 to the test, we headed back up into the California coastal hills that we enjoyed so much on the BMW introduction a few weeks ago (see M3, 1-Series, and MINI Clubman reports). The nice thing is that these roads offer short straights for bursts of speed, fast sweepers to test steering control, and down-shift uphill hairpin turns that challenge torque and chassis balance. And the scenery is pretty spectacular too, when you stop to look at it.

Our route starts with a series of tight two-lane curves that climb a thousand feet to Skyline Drive. The first impression is that the breadth of the torque band is amazing. In fourth gear, even though the rpm drops to where the shift indicator is recommending a downshift, the car doesn’t falter. However, it’s much more fun to downshift to second into the uphill hairpins, then power out past the apex. When given the opportunity, it’s easy at any speed to accelerate to pass a slower car.

Speaking of shifting, this is one great gear shift. Throws are short and the lever can be moved from gear to gear with just the tip of a finger. It doesn’t get any better than this.

You also want to roll the windows down just to enjoy the incredible sound coming out of those four tail-pipes. There’s nothing like a V8 singing through a tuned exhaust to get a driver’s blood flowing on a spring day.

On level curves, the car turns in easily with just the slightest tilt to confirm that the suspension, not some artificial boost to the shocks, is keeping the car flat through the turns. However, we should note that this control comes at the price of a suspension that some riders may find stiff and unyielding in normal driving.

Another issue with this car is the heaviness of the steering. During normal highway cruising it takes little effort and attention to keep the car in a straight line. However, in high-speed sweeping curves, the wheel requires some pressure to maintain the car’s path. Neither of these issues is enough to detract from the rewards the car provides to the enthusiast driver, but if you don’t want to put up these shortcomings, you might want to go for the A5, or some other boulevard cruiser.

Bottom line

Having driven the M3 only a few weeks ago, we couldn’t help drawing some comparisons. On the whole, these cars both get their owners to the same fun-driving goals, but they accomplish that in very different ways.

The M3 is slightly more attractive on the exterior, but the interior colors and style of the S5 are definitely more pleasing. It makes you feel good just to sit in this car, even though the BMW engineers would argue that all those colors and textures will take your mind off your driving.

The M3 can get you from zero to sixty a few tenths of a tick faster than the S5, but the M3 does it at higher rpm, so you always seem to be working harder for the same reward. On corners, especially on the track, the M3’s technology will get an average driver around the corner as fast as a better driver can do it in an S5, but when with a little practice, you can make the Audi perform just as well, the achievement feels more satisfying.

To put the comparison into perspective, if we were offered a choice between the two cars, we’d have to flip a coin to make our choice, and wouldn’t be unhappy with heads or tails. On the other hand, in the real world of real buyers, where we’re hearing reports of dealers adding as much as $30,000 of “market adjustment fees” to the price of the M3, the choice may be easier.

Words and photos by Gary Anderson

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03/12, 4:38 PM

posted by:

SmegmaVajayjay

White awesome

03/12, 4:54 PM

posted by:

RicardoHead

Those LED whiskers in the headlamps gotta go.

03/12, 5:20 PM

posted by:

SS4LIFE

oh man for the price and level of performance this would definitely be my pick for a 2+2 luxury seater. Yeah this looks incredible in white. :)

03/12, 5:59 PM

posted by:

deutschetouring1337

The S5 has been aimed at the Coupe market dominated by the BMW 3-Series, Merc CL-Coupe class, and Infinitis G35C. But why buy the M3 when you can have the 335i?!? People who were excited about the S5 promptly cancelled orders to get the 335i. And once the 1- Series with I6TT is released it’ll be the hottest car to have.

03/12, 6:01 PM

posted by:

johnnycanuck

The front end for some reason looks completely out of place on this. The rest of the body is gorgeous.

03/12, 6:20 PM

posted by:

SS4LIFE

Hey LP, isn’t the Audi S5 too cheap for your tastes?

03/12, 6:27 PM

posted by:

SS4LIFE

sorry I meant Loves Penis. I forgot we have to result to making up offensive acronyms when referring to you.

03/12, 7:29 PM

posted by:

Badwabbit

To a certain extent I’ve always agreed with BMW’s logic that “too much” (as far as interior design) is distracting. However, as of lately that logic has become words fallen on deaf ears, as it’s just a way for them to try to sidestep the fact that their interiors are quite boring. I always feel like I’m robbed when I walk up to a BMW, admire it’s gorgeous aethestics and then step inside the car to the feel of what’s arguably the most basic interior ever designed, especially if you get the Black seats. The interior only shows a little character when carefully arranging colors of the seats and trim. The dash will forever look boring and bland. Would it hurt to give it some more character?

I will agree that too much can be bad, but BMW’s interior are basic and bland. As a side note, BMW doesn’t apparently believe in their own logic as much as they like to talk about, as the 7-series appears to be the interior concocted by the Terminator himself, with more metallic/brushed metal looking knobs and switches to make a fighter jet pilot happy.

The last BMW i was in was my friends BMW 335i (very beautiful coupe imo). He chose the beige interior with some nice wood trim. When I got in the car, I felt like I wasn’t even in a typical BMW. We then went down to the dealer and they put me in the “traditional” black interior and I got that robbed feeling again.

Just recently, I stopped at a local Audi dealership because I saw an A5 rolling down the street. They had a few models in, including a “display only” S5. I sat in all the different cars with different interiors and even the black on black just left me with a great feeling. The interior of Audi is truly remarkable. It’s not too much, but not too little either. It’s just right. Everything is where you’d want it to be and you feel absorbed in the car. The Audi 5 series is truly gorgeous.

At first I disagreed with your 3.5 out of 5 for styling, but I understand what you mean that a lot of the lines SHOULD have been a bit more exaggerated. Personally, I thought the darker colors hid the lines of the car too much. In silver and white, especially in person (you can’t see the lines well in pictures) the car is gorgeous and their Silver color is metallic enough to be used as a mirror. Great quality.

03/12, 7:47 PM

posted by:

autonut

Somehow this car does not grab me like everybody else on this forum. In my opinion car needs more airy feel to it, especially if it is a coupe (2002 comes to mind). I love to drive in a summer with windows and sunroof open and elbow on the window. I doubt you place comfortably hand on the window in this car.

03/12, 8:07 PM

posted by:

bigp

it an kick ass car that bmw should be thinking about

03/12, 8:58 PM

posted by:

howsmydriving

Sorry, Audi’s aren’t driver’s cars. They’re FWD cars that pretend to be driver’s cars. I’d rather have the cheapest BMW with the tranny in the right place than the most expensive Audi with the tranny in the wrong place.

03/12, 9:36 PM

posted by:

RicardoHead

Holy crap. Carsdirect is asking 10k over the base price of a standard A5, bringing it to over $50k for a base model. Maybe a nice car, but for that coin I’d go elsewhere.

http://www.carsdirect.com/build/options?zipcode=78620&acode=USB80AUC191A0&restore=false

03/12, 9:41 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

Does nothing for me. The exterior is somewhat bland. The headlight treatment is boring compared to the in-your-face grill. The interior looks dated (BMW-like) and doesn’t match the appeal of recent Audi interior design.

03/12, 11:09 PM

posted by:

buytheredcar

its a beatifully executed car.
every cross section is beautiful. The way the wheel arches are surfaced is gorgeous.
The proportions are much much improved.
The way the c-pillar blends with the rear deck.
The rear trunk crease…
The wavey body crease..
I can go on and on.

03/12, 11:23 PM

posted by:

Badwabbit

um,… to “howsmydriving”… most audi’s are AWD and not FWD. The sports models are typically AWD or RWD. Learn to do some research.

03/12, 11:25 PM

posted by:

DeansterTJ

I think it’s a great car.

Anyways, notwithstanding the GM payola scandal going on at LLN, these reviews are pretty good. They keep this up and they might get a real car magazine in print going.

03/12, 11:50 PM

posted by:

mp0wrd

saw one at torrey pines gc last week..red. i have to admit, it was very ugly and ordinary. my dad thought it was a hyundai from the back..

03/13, 12:37 AM

posted by:

howsmydriving

To “Badwabbit,” AWD is even worse in a way than FWD, because you’re paying a weight penalty (and potentially more mechanical expense) just to avoid the dreaded torque steer (except for the minority of drivers who really need AWD because of the climate they drive in). I think Audi’s suck for more reasons than that, including their ridiculous prices and their over-reliance on turbo’s.

03/13, 1:42 AM

posted by:

carbonsigma

“Badwabbit”, tell me, which current Audi’s have rear wheel drive?

…Uh, none.

03/13, 1:57 AM

posted by:

brocky

The writer has got the aesthetics and the performance mixed up. The car looks better than it performs. I mean if the designer himself proclaimed that this is the best ever done in designing a car, then that says a lot. How the heck can you give this pork a 5/5 in performance? Although this is one of my favorite cars right now, I have to be real… it doesn’t perform as well as it looks.

03/13, 4:47 AM

posted by:

peter g

Phantastic and beautifully proportioned car. I tend to agree with Ricardo Head on the LED whiskers; they’re a bit too busy and somehow remind me of bad russian oligargich taste.

03/13, 4:49 AM

posted by:

peter g

Did I write phantastic..? And I also drive a Phord and a Pherrari 430

03/13, 8:13 AM

posted by:

mg198242

Hey, mp0wrd U and your dad know nothing about cars, plus you+dad have bad tastes, no doubt!!! I just wonder what car U drive…

03/13, 9:06 AM

posted by:

SS4LIFE

wait, I thought all Audis had AWD as a standard feature across their whole lineup?

03/13, 9:06 AM

posted by:

Z06ified

I don’t think the M3 is the appropriate comparison car. Maybe in price and performance. But the A5/S5 is a much larger car than the M3. Its closer in size to the BMW 6-series, meaning LARGE coupe. I’ve seen one in person and its a big car.

03/13, 9:07 AM

posted by:

Northeasterner

S5 competes with BMW 335i, not M3. RS4 (RS5) will compete with M3.

03/13, 9:50 AM

posted by:

sunshine1810

I once saw a dark grey Audi S5 outside a dealer and I thought that this car looks incredible. I have always been a fan of Audi but I do think that Audi has lost its edge in design. I absolutely hate the large grill and regardless of what the author writes here, even in black the grill is huge and ugly. It is so large that I stopped looking at Audi for new cars to purchase. I still admire them though. I think the interior and steering wheel are hideous. The author writes of the S5’s competition, the BMW M3. That isn’t true. The M3’s competition from Audi is the RS4. A coupe version of the RS4 which will be called the RS5 isn’t out yet so currently Audi does not make a competitor for the M3 coupe.

03/13, 11:27 AM

posted by:

Bobzooki

Apart from having a hot little butt mg198242 has very little to recommend him.

03/13, 11:56 AM

posted by:

SR

I’d consider it against a 335i, but it gets horrible gas mileage…

03/13, 12:31 PM

posted by:

e46Ne90

funny, fifth gear tested the 335i coupe against the s5 and picked the 335i over the s5.

03/13, 1:47 PM

posted by:

LuckyLou

The LEDs are money as is the entire frickin car…my #1 favorite these days!

03/13, 2:44 PM

posted by:

audi-lover

wow, this car is sweet:). But what the hell is with a 3.5 out of 5 on Aesthetics? this car looks great- far better than what BMW has to offer. Leftlane is starting to piss me off.

Also the real 0-60 time of the S5 is 4.8 sec.

03/13, 2:48 PM

posted by:

Need more oil for GM

Nice CTS coupe wannabe, you German pigs.

Audi, “Cars for the unAmerican in you.”

03/13, 3:54 PM

posted by:

Tech

Just had to log in because of the “With gasoline pushing four bucks per gallon” part. A few hours earlier when I checked the local station (living in Eastern Finland), 95 octane was 1.439 euros per litre. Google says that 4 (U.S. dollars per US gallon) = 0.685226775 Euros per liter.

So in your ancient, illogical, anti-standard measurement units, it costs 1.43900 (Euros per liter) = 8.40013877 U.S. dollars per US gallon. Darn pricey. It’s not that fun visiting the fuel stations with my A4 1,8T Quattro, although the four-wheel drive is pure awesome on icy rural roads.

So please, stop complaining about the “high” gasoline prices.

03/13, 3:57 PM

posted by:

C6Racer

That S5 looks like a beast of a ride. I love Audi’s current styling.

03/13, 9:58 PM

posted by:

Driven

Tech, its all relative. High price for any country is more than they have ever paid for the item in the past. Given the cost of living and wages its understandable Americans are complaining about the gas prices. Americans are used to gas that is 25% to 40% cheaper. If the price of gas went up 25-40% in a short period of time in Finland I bet you would complain too. It doesn’t matter if someone else in the world is already paying more, it would be a nuissence to you so you would complain.

BTW, gas woes wont be only a US issue. Soon you will see the price spikes the US has seen. Let see if you complain when you are paying 2 – 2.5 Euros per liter.

As for the S5, I like it. A good competitor to the 335 coupe. I dont like the leds near the headlights. Looks too feminine like eyelashes or eyeliner. It could use AWD with RWD bias (since RWD isn’t an option for Audi). In that price range if I wanted a less common car (good thing) that is a comfortable ride I would pick the S5. If I wanted a better handling car I’d pick the 335 coupe and save $10k plus have to fill up less often.

 
 
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