Comments on: From vaporware to reality: Ronn Motor Company’s Scorpion http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:10:31 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: oldraven http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417701 oldraven Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:43:52 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417701 The other thing to consider is the drain on the alternator to run the electrolysis would increase the load, dragging on the serpentine belt and thus causing the engine to work harder......... using more fuel to compensate. The other thing to consider is the drain on the alternator to run the electrolysis would increase the load, dragging on the serpentine belt and thus causing the engine to work harder……… using more fuel to compensate.

]]> By: Spingood Tanoya http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417218 Spingood Tanoya Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:53:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417218 92GTA - First law of thermodynamics: you can't get more energy out of a system than you put in. The energy required to split water into hydrogen exceeds the energy recouped by burning the hydrogen. Therefore, fuel efficiency will be lower, not higher. The car might have higher performance due to hydrogen injection, but not higher fuel economy. 92GTA – First law of thermodynamics: you can’t get more energy out of a system than you put in. The energy required to split water into hydrogen exceeds the energy recouped by burning the hydrogen. Therefore, fuel efficiency will be lower, not higher. The car might have higher performance due to hydrogen injection, but not higher fuel economy.

]]> By: yarddog82abn http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417135 yarddog82abn Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:49:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417135 Hay I have the same A/C vents on my Ford, and the center pods are the same one's on my little bro's Nissan... WOW cool.... Hay I have the same A/C vents on my Ford, and the center pods are the same one’s on my little bro’s Nissan… WOW cool….

]]> By: 92GTA http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417073 92GTA Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:10:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417073 Spingood Tanoya, the hydrogen is made using the energy from the alternator, it's like plugging in a Brown's Gas generator in instead of your car stereo. It's not like the stereo is tkaing the power it's using to breakdown water to inject into the engine to improove fuel economy. I fail to see how it's "fundamentally inefficient". Spingood Tanoya, the hydrogen is made using the energy from the alternator, it’s like plugging in a Brown’s Gas generator in instead of your car stereo. It’s not like the stereo is tkaing the power it’s using to breakdown water to inject into the engine to improove fuel economy. I fail to see how it’s “fundamentally inefficient”.

]]> By: Spingood Tanoya http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417065 Spingood Tanoya Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:27:35 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417065 ...should have said "using the car to create hydrogen..." …should have said “using the car to create hydrogen…”

]]> By: Spingood Tanoya http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417064 Spingood Tanoya Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:26:52 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417064 Uh, not to get all "physicsy" with people, but using the car's to create hydrogen that's then used to power the car is fundamentally inefficient. Due to systemic losses, it will take more energy to create the hydrogen than can be extracted from the hydrogen made by the car. Some guy named Isaac Newton figured this out a long time ago. But hey, if you like this car, I'm looking for investors for this really kewl perpetual motion machine I've got running in my garage.... Uh, not to get all “physicsy” with people, but using the car’s to create hydrogen that’s then used to power the car is fundamentally inefficient. Due to systemic losses, it will take more energy to create the hydrogen than can be extracted from the hydrogen made by the car. Some guy named Isaac Newton figured this out a long time ago.

But hey, if you like this car, I’m looking for investors for this really kewl perpetual motion machine I’ve got running in my garage….

]]> By: beatusmongous http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417057 beatusmongous Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:27:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417057 The Iceni was posted here before. I liked it, but the interior was a bit weird with the funky switches that look like pen holders. The Iceni was posted here before. I liked it, but the interior was a bit weird with the funky switches that look like pen holders.

]]> By: Fastcarguy http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417055 Fastcarguy Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:20:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417055 Er, here's the link to the article about the Trident Iceni (maybe this will work): http://seriouswheels.com/cars/2009/top-2009-Trident-Iceni.htm Er, here’s the link to the article about the Trident Iceni (maybe this will work):
http://seriouswheels.com/cars/2009/top-2009-Trident-Iceni.htm

]]> By: Fastcarguy http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417054 Fastcarguy Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:19:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417054 The styling is unusual, but not really ugly. It would certainly turn heads. Cars like this would be great, except for the fact that it is so expensive. Non-wealthy sports car enthusiasts like myself would like to own a fuel-efficient fast car, but that kind of money isn't easy to come by. The Trident Iceni might not look cool, but it gets better fuel economy (http://seriouswheels.com/cars/2009/top-2009-Trident-Iceni.htm). By the way, here's an important question: does this car have a roof? A car without a top might be impractical in weather conditions such as too hot, too cold, raining, etc. And anybody can see you if your car has no top, which is something that some people want to avoid. The styling is unusual, but not really ugly. It would certainly turn heads. Cars like this would be great, except for the fact that it is so expensive. Non-wealthy sports car enthusiasts like myself would like to own a fuel-efficient fast car, but that kind of money isn’t easy to come by.
The Trident Iceni might not look cool, but it gets better fuel economy
(http://seriouswheels.com/cars/2009/top-2009-Trident-Iceni.htm).
By the way, here’s an important question: does this car have a roof?
A car without a top might be impractical in weather conditions such as too hot, too cold, raining, etc.
And anybody can see you if your car has no top, which is something that some people want to avoid.

]]> By: 92GTA http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417053 92GTA Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:08:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417053 Are they using "Brown's Gas" method or hydrogen/oxygen seperation? I'd presume so since that what all other so called "water" cars that are around do. Are they using “Brown’s Gas” method or hydrogen/oxygen seperation? I’d presume so since that what all other so called “water” cars that are around do.

]]> By: jayjc08 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417052 jayjc08 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:05:04 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417052 As a plus, this thing looks awesome. But why can't anybody seem to get their heads around just putting some normal, sharp looking rims on a car? As a plus, this thing looks awesome. But why can’t anybody seem to get their heads around just putting some normal, sharp looking rims on a car?

]]> By: jayjc08 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417050 jayjc08 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:02:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417050 Just a few months ago all of you said this would never happen. They actually have small hydrogen systems like this, for YOUR car, on sale for less than a grand. I don't like that center console though... looks as if you'd have to lean over to see the screen... Just a few months ago all of you said this would never happen.

They actually have small hydrogen systems like this, for YOUR car, on sale for less than a grand.

I don’t like that center console though… looks as if you’d have to lean over to see the screen…

]]> By: mdtandr http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417041 mdtandr Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:41:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417041 I do not care how good the milage or the technology in it, this car is very poorly styled. I do not care how good the milage or the technology in it, this car is very poorly styled.

]]> By: ckron247 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417040 ckron247 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:39:38 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417040 Good looking, high mileage, and very fast. Sounds like a winner to me! Good looking, high mileage, and very fast. Sounds like a winner to me!

]]> By: eliteski2 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417036 eliteski2 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:34:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417036 That car is hot, and quite impressive. You guys are afraid of the fact that hydrogen is flammable? WTF do you think gasoline is? That car is hot, and quite impressive. You guys are afraid of the fact that hydrogen is flammable? WTF do you think gasoline is?

]]> By: Lariat Luxury Locomotive Liner No.3 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417020 Lariat Luxury Locomotive Liner No.3 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:54:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417020 @441Zuke, big savings for you on pavers using that method. @441Zuke, big savings for you on pavers using that method.

]]> By: 441Zuke http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417019 441Zuke Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:48:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417019 i'd shit bricks if this car ever is parked in a driveway and runs i’d **** bricks if this car ever is parked in a driveway and runs

]]> By: Borat http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417007 Borat Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:06:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417007 LLL#3, this ride may cost you.Those are not old times when you could cure most of un-pleasantries with shot of penicillin. LLL#3, this ride may cost you.Those are not old times when you could cure most of un-pleasantries with shot of penicillin.

]]> By: Lariat Luxury Locomotive Liner No.3 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417003 Lariat Luxury Locomotive Liner No.3 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:58:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417003 @johnnycanuck, LMAOROFL, heck I'd let her ride for free! @johnnycanuck, LMAOROFL, heck I’d let her ride for free!

]]> By: Borat http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-417002 Borat Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:57:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-417002 johnny, I reviewed the images and think you are wrong. The woman looks she is receiving not giving kind. johnny, I reviewed the images and think you are wrong. The woman looks she is receiving not giving kind.

]]> By: Borat http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-416999 Borat Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:54:06 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-416999 I think hydrogen is stored at least for little period time. At idle engine turns 700 rpm. Do you think that on-board hydrogen generator goes from 700 doses of hydrogen per minute to 7,000 on demand? Especially if mixture is 30-40% hydrogen. I think hydrogen is stored at least for little period time. At idle engine turns 700 rpm. Do you think that on-board hydrogen generator goes from 700 doses of hydrogen per minute to 7,000 on demand? Especially if mixture is 30-40% hydrogen.

]]> By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-416998 johnnycanuck Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:53:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-416998 I think the woman in the black spike heeled boots was looking for a place to put her quarter in. I think the woman in the black spike heeled boots was looking for a place to put her quarter in.

]]> By: Lariat Luxury Locomotive Liner No.3 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-416990 Lariat Luxury Locomotive Liner No.3 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:42:32 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-416990 At least RMC painted it the proper color for its styling: Metallic Suppository Brown. At least RMC painted it the proper color for its styling: Metallic Suppository Brown.

]]> By: Lariat Luxury Locomotive Liner No.3 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-416989 Lariat Luxury Locomotive Liner No.3 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:39:51 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-416989 @Borat, well then, we might just have the next album cover for the Led Zeppelin Band Redux! @Borat, well then, we might just have the next album cover for the Led Zeppelin Band Redux!

]]> By: rzegatl http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-416988 rzegatl Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:38:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-416988 Borat - I'm guessing the hydrogen isn't stored as a gas in a fabric container before being sent to the intake. Borat – I’m guessing the hydrogen isn’t stored as a gas in a fabric container before being sent to the intake.

]]> By: Borat http://www.leftlanenews.com/ronn-motors-scorpion.html/comment-page-1#comment-416983 Borat Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:23:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11197#comment-416983 Looks nice, but Hindenburg comes to mind every time I read about hydrogen. Looks nice, but Hindenburg comes to mind every time I read about hydrogen.

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