These prices mean nothing. How long until huge rebates and underwitten leases get me a 2.0T for a $199/month lease like the current model?

Yep, MSRP is now meaningless. Especially for cars with struggling sales in this very competitive segment. How much for a new Audi, BMW, Volvo, even Cadillac CTS??? Saab shouldn’t be offering new features; they need to fix that low-rent interior and banish the electric problems that kill their reliability. Too bad because this brand has some real potential if GM were willing to make some real changes that dicking around the edges.

that should be ‘instead of dicking around the edges.’ Oops

What a Saab story.

Actually, in all seriousness, the prices are obviously much higher than will actually be paid. There’s hardly any more cars these days that sell at MSRP, other than Z06s and some Toyotas, Scions, and Hondas. Oh and the high luxury brands. But they don’t really count.

Jesus thats way to much for a Slaab, its Swedish not German, c’mon folks lets get real. AND its owned by GM…enough said.

That’s lovely (sarcasm)… As already stated, MSRP doesn’t really matter to the American auto manufacturers (or brands associated). It looks nice, I’d like to see more pictures of it though. It’s good to hear about the improvements, I haven’t sat in a Saab to personally experience the problems but I’ve heard they have interior problems.

So the CTS will cost less than the 07 but this costs more… hmmm

Even though Saab isn’t really an equivalent brand verses the likes of BMW, Audi, Lexus, Mercedes, and Infiniti, I still consider it “”semi-premium”", and the 9-3 starting in the $26,000 range was kind of scary and bizzare in a brand status dilution sort of way (and that was BEFORE inevitable dealer incentives!)

Oh but even 26K was too much for it in my humble opinion, as the 9-3 is infinitely inferior to similar offerings in its class. The only vehicle in its class I’d take it over would be a Jaguar X-Type

Semi premium in a sense that it’s too expensive compared to Toyota interior that’s actually superior. Buyers of Saab are those who are in love with the logo or cares too much about being different.

And buyers of Ssongyangs are either suffering from Down Syndrome or Cerebral Palsy. That, or you’ve taken so many cumblasts to the face that you’re stupider than Muhammad Ali.

Am I in the ballpark, Veda you little Indonesian tranfan ****worshipping lolita?

I think as far as the European marques are concerned, Saab is in a bit of no mans land. Saab USED to be a prestige brand, but now it isn’t. The semi-premium tag above seems spot on.

It’s aiming to be an audi/bmw/merc but isn’t due to quality concerns brought about by GM ownership.
It’s pushed as a premium brand so is more expensive than Ford or Opel/Vauxhall, and the pricing is between the two camps, although quality wise is on a par with or even behind (in case of Ford) Vauxhall & Ford, that Saab thinks it’s above in the pecking order.

People therefore come to the conclusion that for quality and depreciation reasons alone they’d be better off spending their hard-earned on something German, or going for a vauxhall or Ford that look better, drive better and are a better place to be (95 seats notwithstanding)

Until GM takes the bull by the horns and sorts out quality issues, Saabs are going to continue to be a rare sight on th roads.

SORT OUT YOUR BASTARD CHILD GM!!!

CarLord, Your really not a CarLord because you would know that Volvo is also Swedish and there is nothing wrong with GM its just your to fare up your own ass you can’t see that.

Veda, You don’t even know what they will be offering for the saab, the CTS-sedan cost 27,755 with 220hp a 2.8L V6 and a 5speed 5L 40-E automatic transmisson, and you didin’t get, XM satellite radio, rain sensing windshield wipers and a tire pressure monitor, I had to buy the CTS-sport (260hp 3.2L 5speed getrag standard) to get that but i still had to pay extra for it so when i payed for my CTS-sport it cost 35,450. so you see the saab may cost more but it already comes with all the cool stuff that you have to pay extra to get it for a CTS and buy the time you pay for all that stuff for a CTS it costs almost the same price.

Saabs are selling well in England, with the convertibles being especially popular.
They are marketed as a premium brand, and I might just buy one to get away from the German dullness (although an Alfa Romeo would fit the bill somewhat better )

These cars are very expensive for a Saab. 45K for a convertible. I’ll take an Audi TT or a BMW Z4. The Saab cars are ugly in every way, are underpowered and way overpriced for a poorly engineered car. A blind man can design a better looking car. Saab equals absolute garbage.

Veda… how do you know yet if the interior of this car hails in comparison to Toyota?

I can’t really tell from the pictures I’ve seen, and the pictures on LLN, but I don’t believe it’s overpriced… it’s got more standard features than most cars in that price area, and some sort of distinction in style. Yeah, the majority of Saabs are bought by (Saab) enthusiasts, and they’ve cried out against GM which hasn’t done much good for the brand, but the little bit that I have seen looks promising.

I must say though I don’t like the Sport-com bi’s roof though… the roof seems a little too thick in comparison to the rest of the car.

Saabs have always had serious quality issues – even worse than most european brands. None of them were brought on by GM ownership. About all GM can be blamed for is that they have not addressed Saab’s quality issues under their tutelage, whereas all their other marques have made significant improvements in the same timeframe. Ultimately, GM is to blame for that, but if GM is like any other corporation it very likely has to do with Saab-internal corporate politics, given that the pressure to improve has brought tangible results in all other corners of GM.

Burmanesski, your info is interesting, but not relevant to Spud’s comment. We are talking about mass manufacturing, not racing technology. We are also not comparing engines. Take GM US operation as a whole, their sub $30k cars are simply not on par with the German, Japanese and the Korean quality wise. I do think GM is turning around and I, for one, can’t wait to see the new Astra and test drive one. I can only hope this will give Ford a reason to start making the second gen Focus sooner rather than later.

GM’s V8 is great blah blah blah, but since when do you see a V8 in the market segment the 9-3, 3 series etc. are in? Maybe the sport models, but I suspect a supercharger or turbo makes more sense in this small of a car.

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Comment by Oleksandr Shevchnko

Wish I could see a Saab on the road to see what one looks like.

Burmanesski put down the crack pipe, i never mentioned anything about VOLVO. Can you read? Apparently not.

SAAB and Cadillac both lead the industry in performance, safety, quality and reliability. This just proves what a great value you get as well. Thousands less than the competition and infinitely better. The 9-3 continues to be a winner.

ANd who the hell mentioned Volvo? Just another crap brand from Ford. Shouldn’t even be mentioned here. It’s more of a Chevy fighter than a luxury performance brand like SAAB.

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