Comments on: Schumacher calls Nascar boring

By: 2003m3

2003m3 — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:34:16 +0000

Nascar Nextel Cup cars have nothing to do with stock production cars. The Somebody made a comment he “loves Nascar and his Dodge Stratus”. How ridiculous a comparison is this? One is a rear-wheel drive pushrod V-8 purpose-built race car, and the other a front-wheel drive V-6 family sedan. How can Nascar call itself a “stock-car racing series” when the dinosaurs they drive are not serially built?

Trans-Am series is actual stock car racing, because they drive modified Jaguars, Mustangs and other production cars. That, plus the fact it is run on road courses, not boring ovals, makes it a bit like the German Touring Car Championship (DTM).

By: 2003m3

2003m3 — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:16:37 +0000

I agree with Schumi on this one. Low-developed racecars, using carburetted 1960s-style engines and fake headlights, driving on a oval turning left 4x per lap can hardly be fun watching. About as exciting as watching cricket (or paint drying)……

By: johny

johny — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:51:15 +0000

comparing fi with nascar is like comparing america with madagaskar. f1 is f1. i love it

By: guy

guy — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:48:55 +0000

pls someone kill that cheater

By: Kevin

Kevin — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:31:16 +0000

He still Makes a $hitload more money per season than any 5 nascar drivers put together. You ignorant Fu*ks want to make a pissing contest out of this than go the fu** ahead go**mn it!!! I am so tired of fu**ing immaturity and no go**mnbody being able to have an intelligent conversation they always have to fu**ing make condescending remarks at each other. Signs of being to f’ing iggnorant to have decent conversation. What do nascar fans have so against Formula 1 anyways. You know there was a time when I was trying my damndest to learn and respect Nascar. Ever since then I just get smart@$$ remarks thrown into my face. If thats the kind of friendliness(or lack there of!) that i’ll get at a Nascar race, then no freakin thanks!!! Now for cryin out loud go ahead bi*ch, whine, moan, groan, and complain about how this F1 fan here is such an f’n @$$hole. You know what you’re right but guess who was the @$$hole first!!!

By: Kevin

Kevin — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 06:55:15 +0000

I grew up watching F1. So sue me but, in concept, yeah ovals are of course less challenging, but what Schumi is refering to is that ovals being only left hand turns is the boring, not challenging enough aspect of it, he’s not saying that he would win em all if he were to participate. He’s not speaking out of arrogance guys, but fans like me just have to have our road courses to hold our interest. Why do some die hard NASCAR fans have to knock on open wheel saying that its too low tech. I just must obviously be REALLY STUPID!!! but when was the last time I saw a Nascar Nextel cup car with a fuel injected, pneumatic valve, 2.4L 750+ BHP V8? I guess i’m blind too. Alright, time for the Nascar fans to start swearing at me.

By: Brown Man

Brown Man — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:36:35 +0000

“NASCAR cars are not low tech, if you think thats the case, you should get educated.”

Any form of transportation that has a steering mechanism is designed to turn left and right.
Any form of transportation that has a breaking mechanism is designed to slow down and/or to stop in the moment the pilot or driver chooses or needs to.

Racing machines whether they be cars, motorbikes, aeroplanes, or boats are configured– if not designed– to perform better at turning (in both directions), accelerating and decelerating than their regular counterparts; and in order for those machines to do that, advanced technologies are developed and employed.

If NASCAR cars are indeed “not low tech”, what technologies then are used in them that we do not find in the design and manufacture of regular automobiles? Please educate us.

By: Finally… at ben_lymer |

Finally… at ben_lymer | — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:06:34 +0000

[...] I don’t really care for Michael Schumacher, but after his latest quote, he is my new favorite person. “What do you see in Nascar? What is exciting about it? I can’t see that, running around in ovals…” via Leftlane. [...]

By: someone

someone — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:15:07 +0000

I know NASCAR isn’t really that low tech. But I am bothered by the fact I’m still watching heavy steel barges (/rant) go round a track. Cars on which car manufactures and sponsors spend huge sums of money every year to develop. Why hasn’t all that money made those cars perform like IndyCars with doors? IRL cars perform way better, because of their weight, aerodynamic package, sophisticated engine and so on.
I mean that is mainly why I prefer watching IRL over NASCAR if we’re talking about American racing.
I watch the Indy500 every year, and I know there’s also a NASCAR race to watch (Charlotte if I’m not mistaken) on the same day, but I usually can’t be bothered anymore after seeing those IndyCars.
I like DTM because those cars are like F1 cars with doors. DTM is as close as you can get with a ’stock car’ to F1 performance.

By: Fatstrat

Fatstrat — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:31:14 +0000

Hey ‘proud’ I hope you aspire to one day be more than a toilet cleaner.
Real racing fans pay attention to news of the sport which generally includes all major series of which, like it or not, NASCAR is one.

By: JohnnyBlazE

JohnnyBlazE — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:14:48 +0000

DTM is something I’d never looked into but that 94-95 vid looks awesome – thanks!

Was getting bored of F1 anyway!

Still love a bit of WRC… I wish I was 23 in the Group B rally days… *sigh*

By: Proud Japanese

Proud Japanese — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:43:47 +0000

Fatstrat: I’ve never even heard of those three drivers you listed before now. But even a toilet cleaner in Russia knows who Montoya is.

By: Fatstrat

Fatstrat — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 06:37:52 +0000

Just another load of posts by 12 year old flaming potty mouths who have never been to any of these races.
Lets assume for a second that we are all adults, and all racing fans. If that was the case we would recognize the good and bad of both series. One isn’t really better than the other, just different and everyone has their preferences.
NASCAR cars are not low tech, if you think thats the case, you should get educated. They are heavier than F1 cars and are not allowed much downforce so they are dealing with very limited traction and are very slippery to drive. They deal with extreme aerodynamic issues vs. the F1 extreme downforce and little or no aero issues in traffic.
I prefer road racing and sports cars, but I appreciate the skill and endurance required to operate any type of auto at high speed.
All racing is good because it keeps the industry viable and keeps the dollars flowing to companies that support such things. We should all consider ourselves racing fan brothers instead of opponents.
We all ‘get it’ because we love horsepower and speed and competetion that comes from people using machines to push themselves to extreme limits.
If you like one better than the other thats cool the stupid F-this and F-that and NASCAR is easy and for rednecks is pretty lame. And in terms of fitness, I think the new generation of Cup drivers are not taking that for granted and appear to be pretty fit for the most part.
Lets also not forget that guys like Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon and Robby Gordon are accomplished drivers in several types of racing and cars and are well respected all over the world for it.

By: Ke

Ke — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 02:11:44 +0000

Hey Matt, why go for 3Gs when you can have 5Gs under braking and 4Gs in high speed corners. NASCAR SUCKS ASS.

sh. And that is why most Europeans aren’t as obese as the American counterparts.

By: sh

sh — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:45:22 +0000

Schuey obviously hasn’t driven a 200lap race which lasts for 3hours

The grand, glorious FIAA cars don’t last 200 laps. That’s why so many Europeans drive… ah… er… bicycles and mopeds. (And an occasional “fix it again tony” – maybe a �?¿Smart car?.)

By: Matt

Matt — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 16:37:02 +0000

Schumacher’s arrogance as always, will anyone make him shut up?

I agree with that comment.

Schuey obviously hasn’t driven a 200lap race which lasts for 3hours and most of that time your pulling around 3G in the coners.

Enough said really.

Try it schumacher!!!

By: 1c3d0g

1c3d0g — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:14:50 +0000

#96: obviously I know more about it than you do. Do us all a favor and keep believing that your stupid NASCAR races require any sort of skill. Deep down you know where to find the real race car drivers…

By: Cooter Bumpkin

Cooter Bumpkin — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 10:23:51 +0000

mike #4 -
I watch F1 for the skill, technology

Senna’s steering wheel fell off at 200 MPH – now that’s skill & technology!

By: sh

sh — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 09:35:11 +0000

Yes, we of the proletariat love to hear the French national anthem, the Spanish national anthem, the Ferarri national anthem, the Renault national anthem…; and long to feel the glaze of cheap champagne glistening from the Euroautobourgeoisie and the paparazzi.
Stirring, I tell you, stirring.

By: Reza

Reza — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 09:18:42 +0000

F1’s exciting. The best Technology on 4 wheels.

NASCAR is boring. Bunch of cars driving in circles for 200+ laps, and most of the drivers are not in shape, and that kinda tells you that NASCAR is not that demanding, like baseball. A 300lbs person plays Baseball and gets 10-20 millions a year…:S

F1’s like Basketball and Soccer (Demanding)
Nascar’s like watching TV and Baseball (Every one can do it)

By: Ke

Ke — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 05:17:30 +0000

Even I could drive around in a circle for 500 laps. People who want money go for NASCAR. Real drivers who thrive on excitement go to F1.

By: Billy The Kid

Billy The Kid — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 04:09:11 +0000

I think what Schumaker is really trying to say is how much he loves to suck big french **** and balls!

By: Steve

Steve — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 02:46:25 +0000

NASCAR is only popular because it’s on after COPS. What happens is all the Jim Bobs are looking for themselves on TV and while watching get blown by their sisters then fall asleep leaving the TV on. Thus, I present to you high ratings for NASCAR.

By: Dav

Dav — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 01:11:34 +0000

pjpj, nascar isnt a sport, neither is drifting. F1 takes physical endurance, tactical knowledge, and the will to win, and rally is even harder. i dont know what you consider a sport, but most think of a sport as an event that involves all of those. and moto gp i think is even more demanding.

By: gsh

gsh — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 00:18:58 +0000

i watch nascar for the crashes…i guess that makes me a sadist..

By: Gary

Gary — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:10:05 +0000

Ok, so lets hear your one-sided definition of a “sport”

By: pjpj

pjpj — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:29:40 +0000

nascar and f1 and moto gp bike racing is all boring rally x is ok drifting is ok but watching peopel race and calling it a sport is dumb

By: Gary

Gary — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 20:27:40 +0000

So 1c3d0g, you say “Even a monkey could could do it”. Doesn’t say much for you. I doubt you could get around Darlington one lap before finding the wall. Much more to it than just driving around in ovals but obviously you’re talking a lot about something to know nothing about.

By: The Future

The Future — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:59:55 +0000

I’m sorry, but Nascar does suck compared to F1. People who like Nascar will never understand F1. They like close races in old technology that’s just the simple fact. If you notice, what I think is funny, alot of people in the US like Nascar, but tons more in the world like F1. Nascar needs to wake up…

By: Be Careful

Be Careful — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:11:48 +0000

Nascar is a social event. I went to about 65 different university ‘clubs’ but it was not to engage in club activities.

By: Dallas

Dallas — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:05:57 +0000

both of those aren’t very interesting. Watch DTM racing or WRC. Both of those have cars that are based on REAL cars….

By: Be Careful

Be Careful — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:04:31 +0000

“White trash”? As opposed to what?

By: Ha

Ha — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:42:12 +0000

Nascar is for white trash inbred honkies

By: Dav

Dav — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:58:16 +0000

NASCAR is just a stupid excuse for redneck speed junkies to drive fast without having to think. at least German DTM racing takes talents and doesnt bore the hell out of you. but if people want to waste their money and time watching and supporting the world’s most pointless “sport”, dont let my Swiss ass stop you.

By: 1c3d0g

1c3d0g — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:10:05 +0000

Agreed. Driving around in ovals is stupid, even a monkey could do it. NASCAR really should try to make the tracks a little more “exciting”…