Comments on: SEMA announces 2007 vehicle award winners

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:39:18 +0000

Livelyjay: The opel GT is a rebadged solstice/sky

gobal: what are Consumer Reports’ criteria?

CA36: the Aura is the best commuter coffin ever

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:51:25 +0000

sorry ca36gtp, my post did read as if i might be calling the aura a joke (which it definaterly is not)just wanted to be clear. i see it as completely american, but built on a german designed platform (by an american company). seriously i want my girl to trade her 2003 525i in for one i like it that much, but her perception is its not a bmw therefore it cauld never be as good.

By: CA36GTP

CA36GTP — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:21:54 +0000

Sells in America, sorry.

By: CA36GTP

CA36GTP — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:21:36 +0000

CTS, I was replying to cardesigner actually, so I agree with you.

Not sure I agree with your take on the Aura’s “Americanness”, though. The badge is American, much of the exterior design is American. The platform is European, but that hardly matter. If you discount domestic cars from being American because they use global platforms, then you can disqualify virtually every car GM makes in America.

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:07:36 +0000

CA36GTP, i wasnt ragging the aura i was replying to cardesigner5yearold calling the cts a joke., the aura is a great car but its definately not a not an american car that point i was also eluding to, after all it is the german arm of gm so even i wondered how it got that title.

By: CA36GTP

CA36GTP — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:34:20 +0000

Yea, the Aura/G6 is a joke. A well-optioned sedan with good lines and 5.9s 0-60 performance for $25k kind of joke.

Joke’s on me then, I guess. And I don’t really mind.

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:10:23 +0000

it would actually be deserving of na coty unlike the aura. joke? you buddy are the joke go back to your etch-a-sketch and design some cars cardesigner5yearold

By: global_lightning

global_lightning — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:06:02 +0000

Very heavy ad campaign? Try overkill. The CTS is everywhere. It’s a very attractive vehicle, and everything I’ve read so far about it is very positive. But there comes a point where you fatigue the audience you’re trying to influence. Then it becomes part of the background noise. Perhaps the SEMA award was objective and deserved, but that’s not the point. I’m probably in this car’s target demographic, but at this point I’m trying to get away from the over-exposure, let alone considering buying it.

By: cardesigner5

cardesigner5 — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:07:56 +0000

the CTS may actually deserve NA COTY unlike the last on. what a joke

By: CA36GTP

CA36GTP — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:55:02 +0000

Ricardo, it’s only a conspiracy when GM is involved.

Despite the higher price point, CTS really deserves to be COTY.

By: cardesigner5

cardesigner5 — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:50:37 +0000

CTS deserve’s any awards coming to it,titan good to. as for the other two, the suck.

By: RicardoHead

RicardoHead — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:36:40 +0000

The new Accord is likely going to get the MT COTY award in the middle of an ad campaign regarding its introduction.
Does this not seem “suspicious” to you, Global?

By: CA36GTP

CA36GTP — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:32:34 +0000

Global_lightning: Yes, GM is in the middle of a very heavy ad campaign for the CTS. But did you ever think that some of the praise may be because it’s a GOOD CAR?

By: cookie4me

cookie4me — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:31:52 +0000

Really, who cares? People are going to trick out the ride of choice, these awards don’t mean squat.

By: CA36GTP

CA36GTP — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:31:34 +0000

Ricardo and driver are correct. The Pontiac Solstice was the first Kappa car designed, in fact it was the car the Kappa platform was created for.

By: global_lightning

global_lightning — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:00:59 +0000

Hmmmm,
This isn’t the first time we’ve seen an ad campaign masquerading as an ‘award’. Who were the judges? What was the criteria? Not that I’m bashing GM, but it’s suspicious that right now GM is in the middle of major ad campaigns for the CTS and Tahoe.

By: driver54

driver54 — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:00:03 +0000

Let’s do some deductive reasoning. GM = American, GM = Opel, therefore, Opel = American.

By: driver54

driver54 — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:30:27 +0000

Actually, the Pontiac Solstice came before the Kappa based Opel GT.

By: RicardoHead

RicardoHead — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:21:52 +0000

LivelyJay, the Solstice and Sky are originally US designs. Like any company, GM uses its global resources – just more effectively recently than before.

Still gotta love the GM haters: when Honda/Toyota/BMW/Subaru/BlahBlah get an award, they earned it, but GM must “grease palms.” Not saying a SEMA award is something to write home about, but GM is racking up accolade after accolade which will eventually show up on the streets and on the bottom line, after which maybe some of you denialists will commit hari-kari on youtube for the rest of us to enjoy.

By: livelyjay

livelyjay — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:56:34 +0000

First of all, I don’t consider GM winning SEMA awards to be an indication that they are back. How are these awards judged? Honda still has the most aftermarket backing it. The only thing I see in these monstrous vehicles is TVs, ridiculous rims, and stereo systems. That’s not, in my personal opinion, what customization is all about. Performance customization to me is more important to how much gaudy crap you can throw on a vehicle.

GM may be doing better in quality and variety of product, but they still don’t make a vehicle other than the Corvette that I would consider buying (Saturn Astra, Sky, and Pontiac Solstice don’t count because they are re badged and bodied Opels).

By: 1c3d0g

1c3d0g — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:30:14 +0000

Agreed. Hahaha…GM is back, losers!

By: CA36GTP

CA36GTP — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:25:04 +0000

Haha, some people here just can’t stand to admit that something from GM can be successful without a “payoff”. Keep up the head-in-the-sand thing guys, it’s working really well for ya.

By: DeansterTJ

DeansterTJ — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:22:16 +0000

Looks like GM is greasing everyone’s palms. First LLN, now SEMA. When are they going to start paying the public to take these ****boxes off their hands?

By: Syrax

Syrax — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:26:23 +0000

why gm is waiting so much to get the escalade hybrid running?

By: 55amg

55amg — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:11:40 +0000

no GM conspiracy here?

By: deutschetouring1337

deutschetouring1337 — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:07:08 +0000

Heh its not that hard to throw around some money at SEMA to get an award lol.

By: 400horseSS

400horseSS — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:57:57 +0000

Whaaaat! You mean to tell me people dont customize their Carollas and Camrys…….and what about the highly customizeable Scion garbage especially the one that looks like a mail truck.

By: RicardoHead

RicardoHead — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:25:27 +0000

I know that Jamaica. I have seen a few cool custom Titans too – just wanted to bust a joke.

By: jamaicandude

jamaicandude — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:00:46 +0000

Guys, the SEMA awards aren’t about looks… It says they are given to the vehicles that are “the most customization-friendly vehicles”. I guess they thought that these were the best pick of vehicles that have the potential to be fixed up and accessorized. It’s still a subjective award though, and not everybody’s gonna agree with their choices.

By: C6Racer

C6Racer — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:18:45 +0000

I think the GMC Sierra should have won best pick-up. Looks better than the Silverado and F-150, IMO.

By: Scott Kempton

Scott Kempton — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:53:41 +0000

Am I missing something in those photos? I don’t see a thing on any of the vehicles that looks customized. I’d have thought that I would.

By: sik59rt

sik59rt — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:26:52 +0000

surprisingly no Chrysler 300…we did hundreds of those and the H2 at our old shop…definitely a dime a dozen IMO

By: Commodore

Commodore — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:52:48 +0000

They did throw Nissan a bone. Silverado and F150/250 were both better for customization and are just better in general

By: RicardoHead

RicardoHead — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:22:21 +0000

According to 1115’s warped mentality, I believe they “threw Nissan a bone” while handing out all legitimate awards to GM.

By: jayjc08

jayjc08 — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:18:43 +0000

Congratulations to GM. I’m somewhat suprised the Nissan Titan won- although it’s a nice truck, and the interiors the best of large size pick-ups in my opinion, it isn’t quite as capable or as handsome looking as the F-150 or Chevrolet Silverado…
Forget the Tundra!