For the first time since its 1989 debut, the Mazda MX-5 Miata is not America’s top selling roadster. According to Automotive News, the Pontiac Solstice has a significant lead over Mazda’s popular two-seater in 2006.
In the first eleven months of the year, GM sold 18,361 Solstices, compared with 15,873 Miatas. What’s more, that figure doesn’t include the Sky, which is virtually the same vehicle, sold under GM’s Saturn brand.
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12/14, 4:56 PM
posted by:
S-60-driver
Morons who got that crap are STUPID!!!! The dash has a sea of gray crap plasticky!!! Crappy GM parts!!
Mazda MX-5 will always be the best one out there!! Best dash, best handling, etc!!
12/14, 5:01 PM
posted by:
acura_el2000
now gm is going to base there whole design language after the soltice. good news for the general tho.
12/14, 5:08 PM
posted by:
Piablo
^^ you’re absolutely right, for anyone who buys a car for it’s superior dash… Personally, I buy a car based on its lug nuts. If I don’t like its lug nuts, i don’t buy it.
I’m giving you a hard time of course, but seriously, can we please get over the GM plastic thing? Of all people on here who complain about GM’s plastic, I bet not one of you can articulate why it sucks. A car doesn’t suck because of its color, and equally it doesn’t suck for the type of plastic used on its dash. If that is the top concern, I suppose GM is doing pretty damn good then. And for the record, the Solstice has an awesome interior which is almost as beautiful as its exterior. AND yes I have seen both, and YES I have driven both.
12/14, 5:16 PM
posted by:
century24
S-60: Get over it. Numbers don’t lie. How about you yell at all the people who are buying these Solstices and Skys, if you feel so strongly about it, instead of GM who apparently is doing a pretty decent job of making these things.
12/14, 5:22 PM
posted by:
americanrevolution
S-60: Why you gotta hate? You’re like one of those annoying liberal activists who just regurgitate the crap they hear on liberal news shows without any well-reasoned arguments. You want plastic? Jump into a new Civic. If that dash isn’t a sea of plastic I don’t know what is. I know. I drive one every day. And its a great car. The Miata looks boring like most Asian cars. The Solstice looks better. And the performance is there too. Thats why sales are higher. The General is on a roll. I can’t wait for my new Camaro in ‘08.
12/14, 5:25 PM
posted by:
Jazz
I want to see what the sales look like year 3 of the Solstice. Soo many people buy the latest fad that its hard to tell ioif they got it right or if the advertising was REALLY effective. The Miata has had decent sales year over year. Lets see if the Solstice can do the same.
12/14, 5:33 PM
posted by:
century24
Jazz- I’ll buy that. Apparently, GM is making some improvements to the Solsky already to keep up the interest (and the sales). I’ll be interested as well to see if this keeps up.
12/14, 5:35 PM
posted by:
The Stig
I’m not surprised.
12/14, 5:43 PM
posted by:
lanapat7
I think the Solstice interior is just fine. And the projected residual value is higher than the Miata.
Don’t worry, GM will keep improving this product that has been a success.
12/14, 5:44 PM
posted by:
MyGodBeatsYourGod
It’s going to be repeat buyers that’ll show how well the experience of ownership was.
Family friend and local Mazda dealer claims more than half new MX-5 buyers were Miata owners.
12/14, 5:48 PM
posted by:
century24
I have to say though, the Sky gets my heart racing more than the Solstice…and not just because it looks better w/ a front license plate bracket
12/14, 5:52 PM
posted by:
GL1
It doesn’t surprise me as the Sky and solstice are A LOT better looking than the miata… Congrats to mother GM for making another hit car…
12/14, 6:02 PM
posted by:
moogleii
“S-60: Why you gotta hate? You’re like one of those annoying liberal activists who just regurgitate the crap they hear on liberal news shows without any well-reasoned arguments.”
Lol, that was one of the most hypocritical things I’ve seen here. Totally irrelevant to the discussion, too. It’s about as annoying as all those conservatives frothing at the mouth, refusing to hear anything that contradicts what they believe, what they’ve been told to believe, or what their simple-minded gut instinct “tells” them.
“Why you gotta hate, man?”
12/14, 6:03 PM
posted by:
S-60-driver
The Saturn Sky is a lot better than Pontiac S-crap! Inside and outside. Whats wrong with you people?? U can’t even see it?? Am i the only one who knows what looks good and what doesnt look good??
12/14, 6:07 PM
posted by:
Andre Neves
S-60-driver,
shush, go to your room and play, this is a site for grown-ups.
I think the car is awesome. Some of the “haters” fit the profile that I described a couple days ago in a previous article. For those who missed it:
Typical LeftLaneNews.com commentator
:: types “Yeah these S-types are so ugly” into keyboard
:: closes web browser and shuts down computer
:: goes downstairs
:: puts coat on
:: yells “MOM, Im going out, be right back!!!”
:: pulls car keys out of pocket
:: sticks key into ‘96 Neon Expresso door and opens
:: sits inside car and starts the motor
:: drives off to the local dunkin donuts hangout tell all his friends about how ugly the new Jaguar S-types are.
In the end it all comes down to the same thing. You get what you pay for. The car is is NOT going to come with BMW/MB interior at the price it sells. If you want good fit & finish interior, you shell out about $10k more and you get yourself a Z4 or something. It’s common sense. IMO it’s a great all around package it it’s MSRP. Even better is the SKY. My current favorite over at GM. Thing looks like a fighter jet coming down the road. Keep up the good work GM!
12/14, 6:14 PM
posted by:
Kenny W
Next year will be interesting. I’m a huge fan of the Solstice, but that hard top MX-5 is every bit as good, if not (arguably) better. Then of course you have the GXP Solstice and the MazdaSpeed Miata. I think it’s great that two companies are offering two choices in the previously under-represented roadster market. I have a good feeling to that GM wont pull another Fiero fiasco with the new Kappas.
12/14, 6:37 PM
posted by:
ironpony42
I wish I could get my Kappa in Opel GT trim… I had a couple Opels back in the day. A Rallye Manta, and a Rallye Kadett. Quirky, fun, and nimble I really liked them both. Until something broke… Anyhow, I’ve always liked the Marque, and think it’d be cool to import the Opel GT version, or I suppose make a clone Opel out of a SKY…
12/14, 6:39 PM
posted by:
ironpony42
Oh, and I believe Mazda is a superior product here, and I think the “hype” of the “new” is what is pushing sales. Jazz said it all, check back in a couple years for the real results of this roadster match up.
12/14, 6:43 PM
posted by:
mehigh
Yeah, well this is a cool product cause it’s designed in Europe by Opel … so stop praising the Americans for it….
12/14, 7:00 PM
posted by:
Andre Neves
^…”…well, this is a cool product cause it’s designed in Europe by Opel…
Riiight, I guess all “good-looking” products sold in the U.S must’ve started in Europe somehow, get off your high horse.
12/14, 7:06 PM
posted by:
Jimbo - G Mill$
americanrevolution- you’re a right-wing nut. nice bull**** conclusion of s-60. you have no basis for assuming anything of his political affiliation. “no spin-zone” huh?
12/14, 7:25 PM
posted by:
Oldsmobile
mehigh, this was designed in GM’s California Design studio, it is built in Delaware, then rebadged as an Opel if I am not mistaken.
12/14, 7:27 PM
posted by:
youngm7
You can get your kappa in opel GT trim. I’m sure you can find some way to buy the badges and put them on the SKY. I don’t think that’s a bad thing, since they’re not sold on the same continent or anything. At least you’d be unique.
It certainly will be interesting to watch this fight over the next 5 years, although it’s shaping up to be a lot like the full size truck situation- Chevy+GMC>Ford, but Ford is greater than either one individually. I imagine Saturn+Pontiac>Mazda, but maybe Pontiac can beat Mazda consistently head to head.
12/14, 7:29 PM
posted by:
Andre Neves
^ I believe that is correct Sir.
12/14, 7:48 PM
posted by:
1c3d0g
Gotta hand it to GM, this is one area where they’ve played it well and came out on top. I hope future models will be just as inspiring.
12/14, 7:54 PM
posted by:
F451
Give credit where credit is due: Congratulations GM on this milestone!
It’s not a manner of which is better, but which is currently selling more in this game and GM won it fair-and-square.
12/14, 8:13 PM
posted by:
Ricardo Head
Lambo wrote: “The MX-5 is better in every single way, hands down.”
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Except SALES. Which is where it counts, dude.
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12/14, 8:33 PM
posted by:
rey323
Congrats to GM! They built an exciting product and they have done very well for themselves in just the 1st year. The real trick as articulated by several others earlier is to see how well they do in the 2nd, 3rd, and subsequent years.
12/14, 8:48 PM
posted by:
chris2
Yes S60, you are the only one who knows anything. You are always right and everyone else who disagrees with you is full of crap. You are a right proper dude and the world revolves around your volvo
12/14, 8:56 PM
posted by:
chris2
mehigh it was designed and developed by American engineers right here in the USA in Detroit. It is a combination of parts from various vehicles all designed and developed here in the USA.
Shared components
The Kappa architecture uses major components from nearly every GM division and modern platform:
The rear axle and differential are from the Sigma-based Cadillac CTS
The Solstice’s interior storage bin is from the Y-body Cadillac XLR
The passenger-side airbag, steering column, and exterior and interior door handles are from the Delta-based Chevrolet Cobalt
The backup lights are from the GMT360 GMC Envoy
The heating, ventilating, and air conditioning modules are from the Hummer H3
The front fog lamp assembly is from the W-body Pontiac Grand Prix
The steering wheel is from the Theta-based Pontiac Torrent
The 2.4 L Ecotec engine is shared with the Delta-based Saturn Ion, Pontiac G6, Chevrolet Cobalt, and Chevrolet HHR
The five-speed manual transmission is from the Hummer H3, GMC Canyon, and Chevrolet Colorado
The five-speed automatic is from the Cadillac CTS, STS, and SRX
12/14, 9:24 PM
posted by:
Veda
The only ones concerned about which car is better are chicks or guys living in Frisco. Why are you guys complaining?
12/14, 9:47 PM
posted by:
JSP
This is great news. I love competition. Now Mazda will be pressured to come up with a Mazdaspeed MX-5.
12/14, 10:31 PM
posted by:
Legacy GT
Overall, it is a great car from GM- unfortunately GMs interiors do still need work, but at least unlike other domestic manufacturers, GM is trying to improve its product – way to go GM
12/14, 11:00 PM
posted by:
americanrevolution
Jimbo – G Mill$: My analogy was just that, not a political commentary. I could have substituted “right wing nut that regurgitates Bill O’Reilly crap” and achieved the same effect. S60 just says plastic plastic plastic GM sucks GM sucks blah blah blah, essentially. No substance. But thanks for calling me out anyway. I am a right wingnut that drives a 1985 F150 with a confederate flag on the back window and a “God Bless our Troops” bumper sticker next to the NRA sticker and the other one that says “God, Guns, and Guts keep us safe from the Hippie Nuts.” I mean really.
The Solstice/Sky may boast more plastic than the MX-5, but the MX-5 is kinda boring. That’s why sales are up. What else can you say? Hurrah for GM and American cars finally being desirable again.
12/14, 11:08 PM
posted by:
Renton
Solstice is a POS. In 4 years GM will have tweaked it to acceptable.
MX-5 is great.
I have an S2000 witch is superior to both.
Automotive News? Who cares what that publication says. Crap.
Sales? Enthusiasts do not care about sales. Sales are for executives. This is a car lovers site, and most of you do not make money of the sales of the Solstice.
Good car, with a top that fits, and a trunk that holds more than a box of tampons. An interior that is enjoyable to sit in; that is important. Along with excellent build quality, great reliability, and great performance for the dollar.
That is the car for enthusisats.
Let the Kappa Twins be the car for the American Idol/Brittany Spears/Top 40 morons.
It’s your money, I don’t give a ****.
12/14, 11:27 PM
posted by:
Vertical
The American auto companies have made plenty of bad moves, but the Solstice is definitely not one of them. It’s a great looking car. I know nothing of the quality, but the design alone deserves praise for GM. You crybabies who complain about everything GM does complain about their designs all the time. GM builds this great looking car, and you reach to find other “issues” with it. Maybe you guys are too young to have learned how to think. Or maybe you are just stupid, and will never know how to.
12/14, 11:28 PM
posted by:
americanrevolution
Look at this guy! What an arrogant fool Renton is! The S2000 is nice I’m sure, and probably has a lot of well-fitted plastic like my civic along with some aluminum accents and suede. I never looked at one really close on the inside. All I know is you have to rev the crap out of it to go anywhere. But go it does, so I’m told. And its a perfect apples-to-apples comparison to the Solstice, considering its msrp is only $14,000 more than the Solstice. C’mon dude.
Now to call you out again:
Instead of “witch” you mean “which”
You meant “off” instead of “of”
And your post is littered with countless run-on sentences.
12/15, 12:13 AM
posted by:
Hyperion
Nothing a headlight change and and 250 turbocharged horsepower couldn’t fix for the Miata.
12/15, 12:46 AM
posted by:
Impulsive
“Renton”, the sales are representative of a better styled automobile, period.
The average buyer of a Solstice (who isn’t concerned with engine tolerances, for example) believes it’s a better looking vehicle and buys it over the Miata.
“Hyperion”, it’ll take more than that to sway the average Solstice buyer … like a redesigned Miata … especially when the GXP offers 260 hp.
12/15, 12:47 AM
posted by:
A4
go solstice!
12/15, 12:48 AM
posted by:
A4
they had a mazdaspeed MX5 a few years ago and it didnt sell super well, and no matter how much oomph the jam into the miata, it probably wont unseat the solstice, simply because of its wow factor.
12/15, 12:55 AM
posted by:
Lucifer
i don’t care how crap this car is, i’m just glad that an american built, american branded car is selling better then a japanese one.
god bless america
12/15, 1:27 AM
posted by:
Renton
Impulsive — I agree. The Solstice is styled better.
good post
12/15, 1:41 AM
posted by:
Veda
LIke I said, the ones who would actually buy those cars are those interested in style and cuteness while disregarding performance and quality. Though I have to wonder if you guys have actually sat in the Solstice or test drove it before commenting.
12/15, 1:53 AM
posted by:
psiclone
What a bountiful crop of drones we have this year. Maybe the Solstice hasn’t been blessed with the almighty journalists’ nod of approval but people’s thoughts and opinions can be independent from theirs thank you. This is an automotive *news* site, not an enthusiast’s site. And it’s news when a vehicle is dethroned after roughly 17 years of being the top seller. It’s beginning to appear that GM is figuring out how to build what people want.
To all of the mindless zombies on here that hate GM and anything American with blind allegiance, one day you will either grow up and understand the true meaning of free-thinking, or wind up being a loud democrat. Can’t you see patterns in how people perceive your closed minded comments on here? By the way, I tip my hat to americanrevolution, you’re my kind of people.
12/15, 2:13 AM
posted by:
Stuart
Solstice – Nice from far but far from nice.
The Mazda will always be the better car.
12/15, 2:17 AM
posted by:
Flipper
Love the car, but I really think GM fumbled the ball on the lack of trunk space. how is anyone who owns one gonna grab a loved one and take that pretty convertible away for a weekend of fun without enough space back there for a weekends worth of luggage/
12/15, 4:44 AM
posted by:
GT40
Renton
Isnt there some japanese car fanboy site you should be at?
12/15, 8:55 AM
posted by:
Stuart
GT40 You retarded or something. This is a mutual site not just for “AMERICAN CAR FANBOYS”.
12/15, 9:06 AM
posted by:
GMFan
I love to watch the anti-GM people spin out of control everytime something positive is reported about GM. Bravo GM!
12/15, 9:49 AM
posted by:
MyGodBeatsYourGod
Who can I Flame today?
Who can I Flame today?
Who can I Flame today?
Who can I Flame today?
Who can I Flame today?
Who can I Flame today?
Who can I Flame today?
Who can I Flame today?
Let’s “piss on” or “praise” the CARS and their makers…NOT EACH OTHER.
12/15, 10:02 AM
posted by:
Piablo
Andre Neves – Your profile of a typical commentor was quite possibly the funniest post I have seen on here period. “Mom, I’m going out…” LMAO!!!
Also, if anyone else can’t tell, there are two Rentons, one who is the original and typically contributes well thought out perspectives. The other is a troll who hijacked the name.
Also, I’m with ya Americanrevolution! Make sure you get your 3 hours a day
12/15, 10:02 AM
posted by:
Syrax
god, talk about something exaustive to read…i even forgot what i was going to say when i finished…
12/15, 10:22 AM
posted by:
Fatstrat
People like what they like. Apparently they like the Solstice a bit more than the Miata right now. What makes this interesting to me is the level of emotion raised by the report. Seems GM is doing something right when that happens. Also seems that those of the religious order of ‘GM sucks no matter what’ really show their hyprocrisy. And someone who owns a volvo ripping on GM for its plastic?! you gotta be kidding me.
Way funny.
12/15, 10:30 AM
posted by:
theshadow
Both the Solstice and Miata are great cars. And we win – we get more to choose from.
I really don’t know why everybody’s feathers are all puffed out. Chill, people!
12/15, 10:42 AM
posted by:
Hal
Whatever else you want to say about the Soltice and the Sky you have to admit they are very handsome cars, thats pretty much all that matters. People aren’t buying them for their driving dynamics or whatever.
But like Stuart says (and like the Mustang) these are cars that look better from a distance than up close.
Great to see GM making cars that sell, I hope they are making a fat profit on those sales.
12/15, 10:53 AM
posted by:
chris2
Hey, do the domestic lovers go over to any good news about a foreign car and thromw insults? Just wondered
12/15, 12:20 PM
posted by:
bradford
Raise your hand if you’ve driven both the Solstice and the MX-5.
I’ve seen some pretty ignorant comments that are show some folks have their heads up their butts posted here, so now you’ve forced me to make my comments.
I’ve driven both. The Ms-5 is a better finished vehicle, but is lack luster. The Solstice is a work in progress for sure, but generates far more passion.
I like the fresh look of the Mx-5…it’s clean and flows well. The 5sp was so smooth and the engine was willing to rev. I ended up test driving the car on 3 separate occations. Ultimately what stopped me from buying was that the Mx-5 is a tight fitting vehicle that-me at 5′6″- wasn’t comfortable to spend time in. It has a nice sized trunk for it’s size, and the top is a wonder to raise or lower…truely well designed.
The Solstice is a stunning and beautiful car to see in person. Everyone around the dealership was gravitating to the vehicle. I’ve never had so many folks stare at a car during a test drive before-young and old, man and woman-so one feels like a star. The interior is a simple design, but effective. The “plastics” arn’t so much plastic as they are rubbery feeling. The top takes way more coordination than the MX-5, but it’s a trade off for styling.
I did end up purchasing a Solstice GXP. Faster, better handling, sexy, and looks like a far more expensive car.
It comes down to practical verses passionate. If you want to be a fun person the Mx-5 is for you. Nice, quiet, and reserved. If you want to feel like a superstar and have everyone stare at the car and you, then go with the Solstice.
Again, drive both then give your opinion. Otherwise flame off and get a life.
12/15, 12:48 PM
posted by:
BrokenCadillac...
Rearward visibility is impossible unless you prop yourself up out of the seat (Not so safe while driving), the gearbox is notchy, clunky and imprecise but coming from a pickup truck, that is to be expected. While the profile is attractive, the ones I have seen have ill-fitting panel gaps and the doors slam with a not-so-solid ping!. The top up looks ruffled and ill-fitting as well.
Rear diffs and Automatic trannies appear to be the weakest link, thus the much less than stellar reliability ratings.
There. These are the complaints and criticisms that I have with the Kappa cars. Take it or leave it but in my opinion, the Mazda certainly makes up for it’s not-so-flashy looks by sweating the details which GM is SOOOOOO not known to do.
The Kappas are a success, congrats to GM for building a good looking roadster but from an owners prespective, I can see a bunch of things that I WOULD NOT accept if I were buying these cars. These are the econobox class of roadster and that what Bob Putz set out to create so it appears he hit the mark.
12/15, 1:10 PM
posted by:
Ricardo Head
I’ll tell you what’s really cool about this. At maybe 20,000 units a year, plus say 12,000 Sky’s, GM is moving 32k units, which means niche market on a lower-priced car. That is territory the domestics don’t generally play in, so if GM is doing this, and doing it profitably, they they are learning something very powerful and helpful for their future – especially the way the market is fragmenting all over. Good for them, and good for all car buyers and car lovers.
12/15, 2:04 PM
posted by:
Huck
Actually Solstice beside the good looks, it handles quite well. See this Japanese review of the car, that compares the MX-5 to Solstice (driven by K. Tsuchiya):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_d5-K109DQ
12/15, 2:47 PM
posted by:
hUcKiECA
While the Solstice and Sky are pretty, the biggest non-starter with both is the fact that you need to stop and get out of the vehicle to put the top down. The folks at GM have obviously never owned or driven a convertible before. With luck, now that they have one in their lineup, this will be fixed in the next revision or so. The new hardtop MX-5, on the other hand, is pretty sweet. Though, having had a 2nd Gen Miata for several years as a daily driver in bad traffic, I’m ready to give up the roadster for something with a bit more comfort, probably a VW Eos.
12/15, 7:57 PM
posted by:
A4
S60 is a hack, he hasnt been back since he realized the kappas piss on fords.
12/15, 9:21 PM
posted by:
Veda
psiclone, as long as there are speed limits in US, your talk about freedom and democracy is all pure BS.
12/15, 11:26 PM
posted by:
chevy490
hide ur ass everybody JIMBO-G MILL$ has a boner!
12/15, 11:43 PM
posted by:
S-60-driver
You are gay Chevy490, Im better than you! You dumb little prick redneck driving a CHEVY!!!! LOL LOL CHEVY!!!!!! GM SUCK!!
The plastic gray dash in Soltice mustve come off of BASE chevy Equinox’s front gray bumper!!
Only good from GM is Corvette. Thats it. Rest are CCCRRRRAAAAPPPPPPPP!!!! GGAAAYYYY!!!
12/15, 11:45 PM
posted by:
S-60-driver
Don’t you JUST LOVE bashing about cars and the dumbest people on this post and other posts??!!! I LOVE LLN!!!! You dont even know me! Bash me all you want!
12/15, 11:55 PM
posted by:
psiclone
First Veda states that America isn’t a democracy because we enforce speed limits, then S60 once again demonstrates why no one wants him on here… both are nuts, just different varieties.
bradford made the best point yet and would be most qualified to talk about the cars. One thing’s for sure… every time I see one of either I go out of my way to look a little longer; not one single angle of the car(s) disappoint.
12/16, 1:47 AM
posted by:
americanrevolution
amen, psiclone. I wish we had more participants like bradford so that we could engage in a more collegial and mature type of discussion.
12/16, 2:40 AM
posted by:
WonbyOne
Amen to that psiclone and americanrevolution.
I am sure that there are plenty here that wish their opinions were taken seriously, but they havent lived long enough yet to learn how to communicate in a way that gets you in the boardroom rather than flipping burgers or washing cars. That is not meant to be a flame. It is just a fact. I dont care what business you are in or want to be in. If you want to advance and be thought of as credible.
If any of my employees used an expletive in my office they would immediatly be reprimanded and if it happened again they would be looking for work, probably from my competetion, which is exacly where I would want them to be.
12/16, 2:42 AM
posted by:
WonbyOne
By the way, love the car.
12/16, 6:54 AM
posted by:
Stuart
WOW Weeeeeeeeeeeeee. So the Solstice/Sky is selling better then the Miata/MX5 IN AMERICA. What do you expect they are both demestic. In worldwide terms I wouldn’t be surprised if the Miata/MX5 sells double, hell even triple both the solstice/sky put together.
P.S. The Sky wasn’t even a american design. GM’s british arm (Vauxhall) designed the car a couple of years ago as the Vauxhall VX concept a few years ago. But GM gave the design to Opel and then also sold it under the Saturn banner.
12/16, 9:15 AM
posted by:
Ricardo Head
Similarly, what you are saying, Stuart, is that since GM sells more cars worldwide than anyone else, GM is the best.
12/16, 9:17 AM
posted by:
LamborghiniZ
Oldsmobile: Look at your name on here, if that is what you’re supporting on an enthusiast site, then actually you should be the one leaving. Now. Please.
RicardoHead: sales don’t mean **** man, sales are for the bean counters, not the enthusiasts
12/16, 9:49 AM
posted by:
Ricardo Head
Nothing happens until something is sold, Lambo. If enthusiasts want something to be enthusiastic about, it has to sell. You can call that bean-counting all you want, but it’s basically a fact of life and the rest of the world calls it normal business. GM has an import-beating niche market hit on their hands – what we need to see now is the effort on their part to improve its shortcomings to be an absolute class leader, and not pull a Fiero-fiasco. I think they are working to do this going by the future Solstice Coupe concept they are laying out. http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/12/06/pontiac-solstice-coupe-still-on-the-table/
12/16, 10:48 AM
posted by:
chevy490
s-60 how are u better than me u should come to my house and we should fight, ohh wait no u have more money than me right? or could it be that ur stronger and have a better car? maybe ur better because ur older? maybe in your eyes ur better beacuse ur gay and im not well what ever it is no offence to ford id take a chevy over a ford anyday i stand on strong morrals and i am a christain and ford donated 250 gs to the gay community i mean what is that they could have done so much more like given it to the poor!
12/16, 4:54 PM
posted by:
LamborghiniZ
However Ricardo Head, to judge how good a car is on how it sells is ignorance at its finest. If that was the case, the Cavelier would be a good car because it sold a lot….but it’s not…it’s a terrible excuse for a car, and is one of the worst cars I’ve ever had the chance to drive. While you make a valid point, its naive to base a car’s quality on its sales numbers.
12/17, 6:22 PM
posted by:
LamborghiniZ
Deantj got it, they do whatever it takes to cost cut, they cut corners, and cheapen all of their products so that yeah, while the Solstice is an inexpensive car to begin with, you GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. The MX-5 however, while starting at a similar MSRP, is NOT a case of “you get what you pay for”, it’s made with such higher quality materials, the engineering that went into it is of such a higher caliber, Mazda has been using this formula since 1989, and it has worked PERFECTLY since 1989, as the Miata has been an incredible benchmark of the no frills, pure driving experience roadster, so this is not their virgin effort. GM however knows little about what they’re doing, the Solstice is an ok first try, but it PALES in comparison to the MX-5, and everyone knows that, even the GM faithful.
12/18, 12:02 AM
posted by:
Sharif
^^^^^ I know I made it sound like the SL 600 was my car but its not that was a mistake. I have an A4. Sorry, please don’t start calling me a liar.
12/18, 11:15 AM
posted by:
Fatstrat
Uh, deantj
Knew you couldnt get through a post without resorting to the ‘11 year old, mom and dad arent looking so I can use the grown up naughty words’ routine.
I own a 2003 Z71 Silverado with over 60k miles I regularly tow a 7000lb trailer with it and also use it frequently off road. I am very hard on it and frankly didnt expect it to last. But… it has zero rattles and squeeks, there are no problems whatsoever with any of the ‘plastic’ and it has been more dependable than any of my previous Toyotas.
12/18, 12:59 PM
posted by:
BrokenCadillac...
And a Chevy pickup has what to do with the Solstice?
I have a 2004 SRX that has spent 50% of its time in the service bay for electrical gremlins, tranny reflashes, cracking skyroof, leaky skyroof, 4 brake jobs and semi-siezed rear axle all within 40k miles.
Yet it has nothing to do with the Solstice……… But, if this is the best that GM can do, then I’m jumping ship and a Toyota dealership will be one of the first places I run to.
12/18, 4:09 PM
posted by:
Fatstrat
What ever BC. Read deantj’s rant about rattling chevys thats the context. But I know you couldnt resist another drawn out post about ‘your’ SRX. I swear that your gremlin list is different each of the past 40 times you have posted it.
I know for a fact that GM would have handled any of those squawks as warranty/good faith deals unless the car was abused, that close to warranty expiration.
Anyway, its the internet, someone could say they own a bugatti if they want, we just really dont know.
12/18, 7:07 PM
posted by:
LamborghiniZ
The reality is, Fastrat, that the Silverado and many GM cars in general have been complained about for being squeaky/rattley/problematic, that’s no rumor, and no bull**** gossip, it’s based on facts and owner’s experiences, like BrokenCadillac’s.
12/18, 8:24 PM
posted by:
Fatstrat
sorry Lamboz, that is not a fact about Silverado. Many cars, including some models from GM resemble that remark, but not all of them, and not the Silverado, which has a high level of repeat buyers.
Which BC experience are you talking about, todays, or the problems he said he had 2 months ago?
12/19, 9:11 AM
posted by:
90Z
@Fatstrat: I hear ya. I’ve had a 99 1500, an 03 1500HD & now have an 04 2500HD D’Max. All of them have been great…not one single problem. Not sure where they’re getting their b.s., but it’s a lousy source.
12/19, 9:54 AM
posted by:
GarbageMotorsCo
I would hope there would be no problems in 1 year…
I have had a few bad GM’s in the past too. And as a loyal buyer, I was appalled that I ended up with so many bad ones. Unacceptable.
BrokenCaddie got a bad SRX. Dependability ratings for it have been poor and the model has pretty much bombed in the market to begin with. No surprises.
Broken, you need to dump that pile of garbage and get yourself a real SUV like an X5 or an Audi Q7. You don’t know what you are missing!
12/19, 10:23 AM
posted by:
BrokenCadillac...
I know for a fact that GM would have handled any of those squawks as warranty/good faith deals unless the car was abused, that close to warranty expiration.
Um, GM did fix the problems with my SRX under warranty numbnuts.
And my lemon Cadillac is in my driveway. I’m not making this up dumbass. Doesn’t matter, it’ll be gone soon, A Chrysler store just offered me the best trade in yet, 18,500 for my POS on a Magnum SRT-8. I’ll probably jump on it by Friday.
Goodbye and good riddance to this miserable GM experience!
12/19, 10:33 AM
posted by:
Fatstrat
Right….
12/19, 12:02 PM
posted by:
GarbageMotorsCo
Go for the X5! I have a 4.6i and it is an awesome SUV that handles like a sports sedan. Take the 18,5 man cause the depreciation on those drop like a rock, and fast.
Come join the growing ranks of disgruntled GM owners, the grass is a lot greener on this side of the fence
12/19, 1:53 PM
posted by:
WEKS
Is this US sales or worldwide? If it’s the US sales figures, I’m not surprised, if it’s world wide, I’m impressed.
12/19, 11:09 PM
posted by:
GMrules
Goes to show that everyone would rather have a GM than some lame import from Commie land. Buyers are finally smartening up for once. Burn your Miata and buy a real car like the Solstice.
12/22, 12:18 PM
posted by:
bluesplayer4758
RE: i don’t care how crap this car is, i’m just glad that an american built, american branded car is selling better then a japanese one.
god bless america
Comment by Lucifer, posted on December15 at 12:55 am
Oh we’re really blessed all right – with a great presidential administration, highly successful (not to mention economically-sound) war on terrorism and last but not least, a world-class automotive industry. Any more blessings and we’d be living in caves.
04/01, 5:18 PM
posted by:
Critical
The above statement by Lucifer is truly from a halfwit American! As a Canadian we have as many plants close to me from Japan as from the USA. It is up to you yanks to build a decent car to get all of us back into them. I would concentrate on QUALITY, QUALITY,QUALITY . Consumer Reports, a nonprofit, unbiased consumer organization still recommends the Miata, IT DOES NOT RECOMMEND the Solstice which I too think is a good looking car. I am in the market to replace my 1980 Fiat Spider this year. I am considering the Miata and the Honda S2000 and unfortunately I am not seriously considering the Sky or the Solstice because I keep my cars for a very long time. Again, it is a nice looking car and I truly don’t care whose dash is nicer so long as they don’t rattle or squeak.