Comments on: Spied: 2008 Nissan GT-R

By: nowei

nowei — Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:39:22 +0000

It was pretty much every single one of the “Japanese Supercars” (Supra, GT-R, NSX, GTO, RX-7, SVX, 300ZX TT) that had some fudging done to the numbers. In the cases where the cars were sold in both Japan and the rest of the world (so every one except the Skyline), the exact same cars often post different horsepower numbers. I’m fairly certain the GTO/3000GT, SVX, and Fairlady/300ZX are examples of this, where they would have been advertised in Japan as having 280bhp but 300-320bhp in America. I think the Supra might be a bit of an example of an exception, though, because there were some differences between the JDM car and the American market car that may have actually favoured the American car, like ceramic turbines instead of steel ones. Although I don’t know if that would have explained an extra 40bhp.

As another badging comment, I would be even more likely to buy one if they called it the Fairlady Wild Turkey Surprise. But then again, I’m a big fan of “Japanese Engrish.”

/no

By: leviathan18

leviathan18 — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:57:26 +0000

i cant remember if was this car or the supra that they put a lower HP because of the japanesse laws? the supra and gtr34 are beast machines i hate toyota isnt making the supra anymore

ive seen gtr34 with 9k red line with twin turbo those cars arent toys

By: doublearon21

doublearon21 — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:01:05 +0000

the m3 isn’t in even the same class as the the GTR or the Z06 so they really aren’t comparable

By: Carnut4ever

Carnut4ever — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 11:11:21 +0000

I smell a comparo brewing Nissan GTR VS Corvette Z06 VS BMW M3! Can’t wait for that one!

By: Hyperion

Hyperion — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 05:25:37 +0000

Add to that, name another car that can reach those horsepower numbers that has a robust AWD system that stays RWD until you enter a turn with all of that massive power.

By: Hyperion

Hyperion — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 05:21:46 +0000

Shawn1982, this isn’t a “fuel efficient” Japanese car. It will get rotten gas mileage faster than anything out there for the money and if that’s not enough for you there will be plenty of aftermarket support for it.

Nissan’s last GT-R’s had insanely overbuilt and high revving inline-6 engines capable of 500-1,000+ horsepower. This isn’t a joke as long as you have lots of money. Nissan KNOWS we expect the same from the new GT-R.

Tell me… how much does a Callaway or Lingenfelter Corvette twin turbo cost?

By: mblommel

mblommel — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:41:29 +0000

Finally. We should have gotten the GT-R two generations ago.

By: BAMF

BAMF — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:37:08 +0000

shawn…. 480bhp out of a 6 cylinder is quite a bit of horsepower. The GT500 only has 20 more and its a V-8! And a European car with similar horsepower is going to cost you more than 70 grand, for the most part.

By: Shawn1982

Shawn1982 — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:01:55 +0000

I don’t have any biased views towards Japanese cars. I admit they are fuel efficient and have great tech but for that money I’d rather have an American or European car with more horsepower at the same or a lower price.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:08:37 +0000

even with the camouflage, you can already tell this car is gonna look amazing. and the car bears the name skyline gtr never disappoints. i hope they bring this badass to america!!! they gots to

By: theshadow

theshadow — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:59:39 +0000

The telling will be in the driving…if it’s a heavy pig of a car that can’t outperform a Carerra 2 by much then Nissan’ll have problems. Not to mention the Z06 already running 11 second quarter miles (and damn quick Nurburgring times) for the same money.

So for it to be a success, this car will HAVE to be like a wet dream from the get go, and not just be a great car with just a few too many pounds on it to be exceptional like the 350Z.

But if it’s more like 911 Turbo performance for Carerra 2 money, with speed, excellent sharp handling and easy tunability thrown in, I think I’ll have to sell my left nut to own one

By: Alex Dillon

Alex Dillon — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:41:17 +0000

im glad it looks like the prototype.

By: bacalao

bacalao — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:10:08 +0000

loks better than the concept 70 k?????? wow thats too much money for such an ugly ass car. get the Z 06 vette or wait for the next generation nsx

By: Fatstrat

Fatstrat — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 18:26:39 +0000

I never really was a fan of the origional Skyline style but marveled at its performance.
Going by the pics, this one looks better with numbers to match. It will indeed sell very well, Nissan badge or no. This car has a long history and anyone with even the slightest knowledge of the JDM will drool over it.

By: joseph

joseph — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 18:19:54 +0000

Shawn1982……you and the rest of Detroit are wondering the same thing. The answer is pretty obvious if you omit your biased views.

By: Shawn1982

Shawn1982 — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:54:40 +0000

Hideous. I guess I’ll never understand why people like these Japanese cars. I’d rather have a Z06.

By: Impulsive

Impulsive — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:23:03 +0000

For many of those who posted stupidity (and there is more than I thought there would be), do some research on the history of this car … you might get SOME idea of what to expect.

By: Hyperion

Hyperion — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:17:25 +0000

doublearon21, you’ve nailed it. Any GT-R is built to achieve high horsepower for relatively little money compared to other cars in the same category.

By: moogleii

moogleii — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:08:36 +0000

It actually looks better to me covered up this way. I just didn’t sync with the concept.

By: tppp

tppp — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:37:40 +0000

Hell Yes, its no longer just a myth!! Its finally going to happen!

By: Gandhi

Gandhi — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:52:21 +0000

The new BMW M3 may have a V8, but it is sadled with pitiful iDrive and complicated SMG (if the current M5 and M6 is anything to go by). I will take the GT-R with its awesome AWD over an M3/M5/M6 any day.

The GT-R is a Porsche 911 Turbo for the masses (well, more reasonably priced at least).

By: doublearon21

doublearon21 — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:38:11 +0000

Wickedated, I understand that for 70k you would want the new M, I drive a e46 m and want the new one too, but you obviously don’t realize that you’ll need to dump another 40k into the M to “tune the heck out of it”, and it will take about 2 years for the aftermarket to catch up. You can tune a gtr right out of the box. My car runs a 11.2 1/4 mile and I had to dump 30k on top of the price of the car to get that. For 70k the gtr is going to keep up with a heavily modified M all day long, with the ability to squeeze more out of the turbos by simply turning the boost up, which cost almost nothing (compared to 40k). I’m not going to buy a gtr, but its a bargain for the amount of performance you get, and not to mention the awesomest awd system out there.

By: snork

snork — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:44:49 +0000

Sweet…even with the front and rear masking it still looks HOT!

By: Wickedated

Wickedated — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:34:31 +0000

For $70K I’ll take the new upcoming M3, which will have a V8, 420+ HP and ability to tune the heck out of it.

By: meanpants555

meanpants555 — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:06:57 +0000

Somebody hold me. My prayers have been answered. They could call it a Fairlady Wild Turkey Suprise and I would still burn for one.

By: BAMF

BAMF — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:44:55 +0000

It should be badged as a Nissan, but sold at Infiniti dealerships. Everyone wins that way.

By: Carnut4ever

Carnut4ever — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:25:56 +0000

I’ll take this over a Corvette Z06 any day!

By: Hidden_Hunter

Hidden_Hunter — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:53:29 +0000

You guy’s are kidding yourselves if you don’t think that badge appeal comes into play for a $70,000 car (if that’s how much it’s going to cost)

By: WEKS

WEKS — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:11:26 +0000

I loved all the Skyline GTR’s but I think it’s kinda sad they dumped the R3 in favour of the Z3 platform.

By: James

James — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:09:13 +0000

My Skyline, grandson of Godzilla.

By: snoboardguy21

snoboardguy21 — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:53:06 +0000

I think what bothers me about the look of this car is the roofline. It’s one of the only parts of the car that doesn’t slightly remind me of the R34. Everything else seems very Skyline-ish. Mind you, the R34 is one of my most favorite cars ever.

By: acura_el2000

acura_el2000 — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:44:02 +0000

it will be closer to 60 then 70. 70 is a bit unatainable for that market. it is a mean car and i love it. but 70 is on the heavy side, nissan knows someone is inevitably look at the gt500 in comparision. if only toyota felt the need for a halo car, too bad they are stuck in the boring zone. i can only see this being 70k if they decide to boost the performance of the 350z…..450z anyone?

By: Hyperion

Hyperion — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 03:22:53 +0000

If folks want to go there over the badging, I think there are super sportscars out there in the $40-$100k range that beg a LOT more questioning from the buying public than Nissan’s GT-R.

Corvette — $60-$70k for a Chevy?? And yet people know the car is good and buy it.
Viper — $70-$80k for a Dodge?? Same as above.
GT500 — $55k for a Ford Mustang?? I question this a little more
NSX — $70k for a…. at least they’re redesigning it. These things never compared to GT-R’s anyway.

The only two nobody ever questions is the BMW M3 and the Porsche 911 because they do not bother with any low end markets. I think the cheapest BMW you can buy is $30,000 and the cheapest Boxster still costs about $35,000. The 911 starts at about $75,000. Those are ENTRY prices for those brands. Chevrolet, Dodge and Ford all sell basic cars around $12,000 to enter their brands.

And yet, when you start poning up big cash for a car that’s meant to perform (Honda/Acura being the exception, I think), you do get a car for the money. All of the above car manufacturers (excluding Honda/Acura) sell bread and butter cars by the truckload but do offer serious performance for serious money.

Owners of these kinds of cars are choosy in what people get to perform service. They’re driving the “Other Chevy”, the “Other Dodge”, the “Other Ford”, and pretty soon, the “Other Nissan”.

To be fair, the NSX is a great car and it’s quite far removed from other Hondas. It just hasn’t been redesigned since it was first offered. I’m sure the new NSX will be a great car.

By: Vdub

Vdub — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 03:12:49 +0000

70k? that doesnt look like a 70k car. the numbers are impressive but nissan could atleast make it abit more exotic looking to distiguish it from the rest of their models. IMO no one is gonna buy that car except for tokyo drift fanboys.

By: nowei

nowei — Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:39:44 +0000

I would just like to categorically state that I am completely mystified with the idea that a badge adds some kind of value to a car. I guess I can understand it somewhat when it comes to things like Ferrari or Rolls-Royce, but in my opinion a great car is a great car. This could be the Lada GT-R and I would still want one.

/no