September14
Shelby Supercars' Ultimate Aero Twin Turbo overtook the Bugatti Veyron yesterday as the world's fastest production car. Making the record-setting run on a closed two-lane stretch of Washington State public highway, the 1183 horsepower Ultimate Aero was able to hit a top speed of 257.11 mph and averaged 255.83 mph — 3.11 mph faster than the unofficial record set by the Bugatti Veyron.
Although the Ultimate Aero was able to do over 257 mph, the official record will stand at 255.83 mph. This is because the Guinness World Records requires a vehicle testing for the top speed record to race down the course, turn around, and then make a return pass within one hour. The top speed is calculated by averaging the top speeds of each pass, negating any favorable road or weather conditions in any one direction. The Ultimate Aero's first pass netted a top speed of 257.11 mph with the car hitting 254.55 mph on its return run, averaging out to the record speed of 255.83 mph.
The SSC Ultimate Aero Twin Turbo uses a 387 cubic-inch twin-turbo V8 rated at 1183 horsepower and 1094 lb-ft of torque. The car weighs in at 2750 lbs, resulting in weight to horsepower ratio of 2.33 — a record for a production car. In addition to being able to go well over 250 mph, the Ultimate Aero can go from 0-60 in 2.78 seconds, cover the quarter mile in 9.9 seconds at 144 mph and circle the skidpad at 1.05 g.
That's also roughly 182 hp more than the Veyron. Still impressive though.
But the Bugatti has style, that thing is the ugliest machine I've ever seen.
Is it realy a production car though?
On a public high way no less. I'd like to have been a bystander to see that
Ok fine, I will take two.
Go figure, Shelby, don't piss that man off. He has an answer for everything.
And the market segment for this beauty: Osama's uncle? Who else has the bread and can afford private road?
it topped out at 257mph but the estimated top speed for this car was like 270mph. what an estimation
if that is a production car, why are there sponsorship emblems on the rear quarterpanel?
Looks like a Peugeot show car.
But can it hold a candle to the mighty Z06, the only respected supercar out there? Otherwise it's just another designers wetdream and a waste of bandwidth.
The Veyron never even tested that high. That's got to sting Bugatti. I thought it was because they couldn't find tires that would stand up to carrying a 4200 lbs car to 250+ MPH. Maybe no one wanted to risk wrecking their $1.3M baby to test their limits.
The Koenigsegg is a sleek car. I found the Bugatti awkward but attractive. Too bulky but artful. The CCX could top 240 with "only" 806Bhp (that's European measures not SAE).
http://www.koenigsegg.com/
Autonut,
There's no need to be an @$$ about the impracticalities of Hyper-exotic Sports cars. Any one can log time at a race track, Europeans loaded with them, and go for broke. Oval tracks are best for such things, America's got those like no one's business.
Further, I said this about stereos, the louder it can go the better it sounds at sane levels. For Cars it would be: The faster it can go the faster it can keep going. Doesn't really matter if the car will never reach 245mph in a race, the fact that it can do 160 like most cars do 45, makes it a faster car period.
Handling For this car is okay but needs better aerodynamics to run it's best. This SSX seems to have this. the CCX was plagued by this fault so deftly pointed out by the jerks at Top Gear. They added a tiny spoiler to the rear, it actually looked real nice, and the car was riding on rails.
The Swedes built a super car that takes their known-how and leans toward making something no unlike a Fighter Plane. So top tier, it's not going to see serious competition for a decade at this rate.
But you know What? I don't like that "beak" on the car. They could have done something else if the vent was a problem. Maybe just redesign the the front cowling.
One of the Top ten Supercars of ALL time.
blakkar it reminds me of an old vector beak, and sorry bugatti i like whatyour car is, but i think its uglier than a pinto.
As blakkar wrote, thats got to sting bugatti. I'll add thats got to sting those that paid over a million to have the fastest car available & a very short time later it no longer holds that title. Now the Bugatti is just a good looking (subjective), fast (not the fastest) and expensive car.
anybody know what the top speed and performance figures are supposed to be on the new ZR-1 vette thats comming out next year ? I heard its to have about 700 hp on that sucker. Of course It won't run with the bugati or this shelby car either UNLESS you send it to lingenfelter first.. then it will and for about 900,000 dollars less as well.
Blakkar,
FYI, Koenigsegg has said that the CCX engine is capable of more power, so it will be tuned to 806 bhp SAE net when it's imported to the U.S. Bugatti made the same claim with the Veyron's 1001 bhp.
I'd still take a Veyron or CCX over the SSC, which is ugly and uninspired.
GM sales… Are you stupid? wait. That doesn't need an answer does it. You are wondering if an SSC will hold a candle to it? Z06- 505 hp. SSC-1183hp. What's the Z06 weigh? 3132 pounds right? I think the SSC weighs a mere 2750 pounds. The Z06 does have the edge in coefficient of drag. That's about it though. If you had one ounce of common sense, you could see that the Z06 is so far out of it's league, you might as well be racing this SSC against a Pinto. Neither car can even dream of holding a candle to it. This thing is faster than the Bugatti Veyron. Is the Z06 equal to that? Your stupidity befuddles me.
Even when you can do 200+ mph. There aren't that many places you can do it for an extended duration.
You hit 250 and then you back off. It's not like you are going to be weaving through traffic.
CTS DRIVER,
The from end is nothing like a VECTOR. The from end is just wrong with that beak on it. A VECTOR has more in common with a LAMBORGHINI Countach but much cleaner keeping to its theme of a modern combat aircraft. The Koenigsegg is the typical European super car mess of trying to balance styling and function and, atypically, misses pretty wide.
For Note, I think PORSCHE got it right in the 911 and Cayman. The almost every Ferrari, I personally will NOT include the ENZO in this, Was on the mark, too. But then they and others have had time to get it right. This is still the first generation car from this company.
Scarface03,
Bugatti never fixed the 12hp spec difference when reading between European and SAE output stats. I would not be surprised if Koenigsegg did bump up the hp to make 806Bhp SAE, when they come over to the US but it is largely unnecessary. However the car does ship to the US and they did NOT fix it. Remember the world's biggest speeding ticket? Done is Texas. Koenigseggs are in the US already.
When they say 1000 hp in the ad, it makes 1000 hp… by European standards. If it is SAE spec, then the caveat will be added as a matter of "truth in advertising". The vast majority of European super cars tested and sold in the US are done so using European measurements and not SAE. Its the same kind of weirdness that threw people about the new WRX. It is more powerful than before, but because the SAE changed the way they measure engine output, the figure is lesser than expected. 234hp as opposed to 250hp, increased over the previous 225hp.
Jaguar XJ-S,
GM_SALES is a noisemaker. Don't mind him much. Occasionally he will say something useful but not often, much like Deanster, who will come off as knowledgeable then throw out a flame which a lot of folks will listen to. It's best to ignore him when he says something you don't like.
Anyway, The Corvette's saving grace has more to do with something any NASCAR fan will tell you, a chopped off tail is better than a "bubble butt". The best shape is a tear drop, hence why solar racers has such a shape, but it is woefully impractical for a car. The chopped tail is more like a bullet and uses the air to mitigate drag. Otherwise shapes that taper back like a teardrop work better, but "bubble butts" don't.
Those figures are just insane…but I want to see a car that'll do 260mph!
pffft- Wake me when we get to 300mph!!
Seriously cool but the car is not in production. How many have been made? Looks like a prototype.
Please, this car can't possibly be compared to the Veyron, because it's a race car with 6 point harnesses and practically no interior. Only when a car has a "compelte" luxurious interior, can it be competizione for the Veyrone. It's road legal yeah, but slap everything the Veyron has into the SSC, and then we'll see what happens…
BLAKKAR I didnt mean EXACTLY like it (i love the vectors and wish they were still avaliable) this squared wedge beak was all i meant, and this just reminds me of the 1990`s when the vector surprised the world
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/2098,914,0,0/photo.aspx,
"Jerod Shelby" NOT "Carroll Shelby" I think he is from the lucky sperm club and just happens to share the last name. Sorta like Billy Bob "Bubba" Ford…………….
Looks like a peugeot..and deanster - i agree with you although you should tone it down a bit..you sound way to angry over nothing
lou3000: the bugatti has style?!? Bahahahaha….ROFL…are you on drugs, kid?
Hahaha…this thing eats the veyron for breakfast. And it does it elegantly, with 2 turbos instead of 4 and without 10 radiators trying to cool down that furnace you call an engine. Better yet, it won't melt the paint off of other cars parked next to it due to the heat produced. So much for your stupid bugatti.
Silly question here, but do any of you know if the SSC Ultimate Aero uses the same headlights as the far better looking Ascari KZ1??
Speaking of the Ascari, it's another one of those dozen ultra-super performace cars coming out of the woodwork. Not quite as an accomplished performer as this or the Veyron, but almost.
The thing is, because of the headlights, these two cars look very simlar.
Lets not take anything away from these guys, its been a long struggle for them to get to where they are, but comparing this car to the Bugatti Veyron and suggesting that Bugatti buyers might be upset about this is ridiculous.
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The Bugatti Veyron is leagues apart from this thing. The Bugatti is a proper production car with production car levels of reliability and ease of use. It is a luxurious GT that you could comfortably cross continents in. Its all-wheel-drive and has been developed with an uncompromising attitude to safety. The car is completely bespoke from its W16 engine to even the smallest interior fittings which are machined from aluminium and will only ever appear in a Bugatti. The Veyron will take its place in history alongside the Royale as an expression of the pinnacle of automotive engineering for its time.
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This thing looks like a parts-bin-special kit car by comparison, it is focused on performance alone and will be quickly forgotten as soon as the next builder finds a way to bolt bigger turbos or a more powerful supercharger onto the Corvette engine. You can see the panel gaps even in the photographs, the slabby interior looks like plywood covered with leather, the engine bay is a complete mess and the styling looks like an afterthought.
Id definatly prefer a Veyron or CCX over this, in fact id take almost any supercar before htis.
DEANSTER– You clearly need to do a little more research before voice dumb opinions. First of all, yes there are cars that hit 180mph with 250hp. However, this is 260mph we're talking about. The physics involved in pushing a car to these speeds is exponential. The Veyron, for instance, only needs about 600hp to get to 200mph, but it needs ALL its 1000hp to push it to 240mph. At those speeds, drag and air resistance increase by the ten folds, requiring extreme amounts of horsepower to counteract these forces.
And all you saying Veyron owners must be feeling stupid, here's a newsflash. Sure, this car broke the speed record but the Veyron is a real car– you can jump in, go to the country club, hit 200+mph on the way, get a cup of coffee, do another 240mph, go to a restaurant, cruise at 45mph, then hit 240mph again. Unlike this thing, the Veyron is a real car, competent in all situations, even in city streets (I've seen one driving around in Manhattan among traffic just like an Audi A6) whereas this is an extreme racing car with the practicality of an F1 car. In any real world situation this car is undriveable. Needless to say, a V8 that cranks out 1000+hp and 1000+ft/lb of torque probably has the same reliability of an engine huffed up on nitro.
Trust me, this thing is a one time thing designed just to break records, you won't see a wait list for it.
Wickedated, don't give me a physics lesson, you fucking toad. I'm Einstein to your fucking Corky, I know damn well that small increments in velocity require progressively increasing amounts of power.
Nonetheless, child rapist, I maintain my previously stated position. And the doggystyle position I use on your mother when your father is on those "business" trips.
Both cars are hideous, this is even worse :X
Ford Focus headlamps lol
Got handling?,
I think it's obvious that this SSC has some tacked on parts. You griping about the quality of this car belies your lack of research or just a biased view trying to stand up for the Veyron that, for all it's much ballyhooed power and pedigree, did NOT officially post any records, in handling acceleration, or top speed.
All of which, by the way, are owned by RWD super cars not a single AWD.
The Koenigsegg SSC, pictured here, I would assume is a prototype for their next version of what really seems to be one of the best Super cars in a decade. The Engine's source was not given here. I would not be surprised it it was a Corvette engine, but without more details, that is just speculation. For all we know it could be an original engine or even (snicker) an SRT HEMI.
Also try to recall that the Veyron has a W-16 and FOUR big turbos and redundant intercoolers and colling systems. A vastly more complex engine system than the SSC. So griping about strapping on bigger turbos seems hypocritical when you start trying to compare the two. It's nothing new. It just works.
Questions about it's quality should be referred to existing production units and not this apparent prototype. The Koenigseggs I've seen are nearly bulletproof, after all the Swedes have certain standards they would like to live up to. Also the Koenigsegg is aimed at being a racer not the fastest luxury cruiser around. I'm sure if you saw an EB110 you'd think it was junk just because fifty cows did not die to upholster the interior.
SSC? Shelby Super Cars? Wouldnt it be a Ford V8?
GREAT
Wickedated, Ya but what is the cost diffrence on a 250hp car to the veyron? O i know because i just bought one. I have a 2006 CTS-V with about 250hp and it can do a top speed of 178mph that to me is impressive for a family car and it only coast me $32,000, but a veyron cost 1.3million and for what a car that can only have two people in it, gas cost a lot, you spend 5times the amount you paid for to keep it in good shape, and where on earth are you going to need to be going 240mph anyways and don't try and tell me germany's autobahn highway because i have been there and there are so many cars on that highway that there is no way you could get a car to go that fast. im not trying to say that the car is crap but just keep in mind that there are cars out there that cost very little and they still hit impressive speeds.
the quatrer mile thay said the thing can do, come on thats too slow for that much hp a chevy big block in a 69 camaro can do that with 750hp. i would say the car just dosen't have the gears. funny a veyron and the ssc would get out run on dragsrips buy big block old american cars. but that would be the only thing that they could beat them on.
if you have that much of a need for speed simply purchase a corvette and send it to halltech, it will come back with 1300 horsepower and hit an estimated 275 mph for a fraction of the cost (not that youll ever go that fast). its simply bragging rights :). not just saying that because i like corvettes, but i do not see the point in buying a veyron or this car no matter how much money i had
Blakarr you pompous potty-peeping pederast, this isn't a Koenigsegg, its an SSC. SSC is a completely different company from a completely different country. The Koenigsegg is a beautifully crafted and resolved machine - The SSC is not, and nor is it a prototype, several cars have been delivered already, although not to this specification.
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SSC use Corvette motors, I know this because I am capable of referencing information other than what is given here. I am well aware that the Bugatti has a W16 motor, if you didn't have the reading comprehension of an ADD-afflicted teenaged MTV fan you would even see that I mentioned it in my post. You may also have noticed that I view the meticulous development and careful integration of systems that allow the Veyron to perform very close to the extremes of contemporary possibility in safety, repeatedly and for sustained periods while providing production-car reliabilty as a positive characteristic.
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As regards records, you simpleton, the principal point of my post is that the Veyron is an incredibly carefully developed, sophisticated and refined product, and that it is ridiculous to suggest that it has been belittled just because someone has bolted big turbos onto an off-the shelf motor and strapped it into a cobbled together one-trick-pony that can produce a one-off attention grabbing performance record.
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I should hope that my reverence for previous masterpieces bearing the Bugatti name, including the EB110, is obvious to other readers of this post. I suppose I should not be surprised that you missed it however.
Got Handling?-
Making yourself look like a smartass prick is unnecessary.This is about speed and they veyron lost
Gogo American Muscle
Looks FAR better than the Veyron. The Veyron is just weird looking :S
What a surorise, a Corvette owner with a one-dimensional appreciation of the supercar.
Who said i don't appreciate the veyron? This particular thread is about the SSC beating the veyron's speed record, not which car has diamonds on the dash. Im not totally sure you even read the article.
Who said that i didn't appreciate the veyron, i think it is an amazing machine, but in case u havent noticed this particular thread is about the SSC overtaking the veyron's speed record, not which car has diamonds on the dash. Did you read the article?
Got Handling?,
Before your pot calls my kettle black, wash that mouth out with soap. Cursing, swearing, and name calling only marks as a totally knob head and an ignorant buffoon, even if you are right. You can only undermine anything you are saying or trying to between burst of mindless "monkey noise".
That said, my mistake. It is a totally different car made by a totally different company. Some of us don't have all day to hang about web surfing at work.
You are however, the second most immature person I have had the copious displeasure to have to even consider reading the responses of. Trying to shame and intimidate with such course language, half of which I know applies to you or else you wouldn't be able to string the words together, only helps narrow down exactly what kind of lowly excuse of a lump of gutter trash you really are.
Anonymity online is a wonderful thing as long as you keep your bad habits to yourself. We have ignored and even chased people out of LLN for being "poor company". You want to discuss. Let's discuss. You want to flame, go sit in the corner because no one will will be willing to entertain you for long behaving you have.
Punk.
As for my appreciation for Bugatti. I could care less. Until someone actually mentioned the Veyron again, I could have cared less. I just doesn't grab my mind like the Lamborghini Gallardo, Ferrari 430, Ford GT (and GT-40 mk1-4), Vector W8, Corvette, Dodge Viper, and I can go on.
But the Veyron is a "see it, love it for ten minutes, and forget it". Despite being such a dens package of technology, I'm inclined to file it along side the Mitsubishi 3000GT. Loaded like a Shanghai bay ferry, but a forgettable car if you don't have a picture of one over your workstation.
My favorite car is still the Lotus Esprit. So I am looking forward to the first full redesign in like… ever in a couple of years.
"sorry for retarded double post earlier* didnt think it went through
blakkarr, i could not agree with you more
Wickedated-you make a good point but you'll run out of gas by the 2nd 200+ run. haha and to hyperlite if you look closely those aren't sponsorship stickers, one is PPG, the paint used on the car, the other is Recaro, no explanation needed, and the other I can't read, but trust this is a production car. Also when the CCR broke the Mclaren F1's record it had stickers all over it of manufacturers the were used in production of the car, like Rotrex, the company that builds the twin superchargers it uses. Ugly car, great performance, though a little too much fuction over form for me, change up the front and this will look great.
Yes Vettte the article is about speed, and I started my first post by recognising the achievement of SSC. Both posts however have been responses to the ridiculous statements made in this discussion by Blakarr and Driven suggesting that Bugatti and their customers will feel upset about this .
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Doublearon, this may be a production car, but the car was not running on pump fuel.
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Blakarr, why am I not surprised that you spend your day at a workstation worrying about being caught online? The phrase is "Couldn't care less" by the way (think about it), and you might want to refer the phrases "only marks as a totally knob head" and "behaving you have" to the kids you teach "good clean living" to at YMCA, I'm sure they can help you with your grammar, they might also be able to help you with the spelling of the words "coarse" and "alongside".
I am humbled by your 19th century reproof however; I shall indeed purify my wicked soul by "washing my mouth out with soap" and only hope that I can evade the posse of pitchfork-wielding irate posters you bring with you when you come to, oh the terror, chase me out of LLN. For now though, why don't you take your sanctimonious arse somewhere its wanted, like Holmes County, Ohio.
"GM sales… Are you stupid? wait. That doesn't need an answer does it. You are wondering if an SSC will hold a candle to it? Z06- 505 hp. SSC-1183hp.If you had one ounce of common sense, you could see that the Z06 is so far out of it's league, you might as well be racing this SSC against a Pinto.
Comment by Jaguar XJ-S, posted on September14 at 1:56 pm "
While GM Sales is out of his mind, I would like to point out that the Z06 can be modified *relatively* easily to reach these top speeds. Lingenfelter and several other Corvette tuners will happily build you a twin turbo Z06 with well over 1,000 hp.
Don't believe it can be done? Remember the Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette? Top speed was 254.8 mph with ONLY 898hp and 772 lbs. of torque. And that was way back in 1988, before many of you were born.
Got Handling?
We can start today.
KITT's still faster!
Who cares how fast it goes if it breaks down on the way? Corvettes never break down.
posse of pitchfork-wielding irate posters
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i dont care but this little statement was pretty darn funny.
. and i agree with jack KITT is faster.
This car cannot be compared to the Veyron. In the same vein that gordon Murray said that the Mclaren F1 was about attention to detail, not on the top speed, the same applies to the Veyron. Dr. Piech stated some guidelines to building the Veyron, which were 1000 hp, 250 mph and W16 engine. That's it. The Veyron beats this in style, luxury and pretty much all other categories except speed. And remember that the Veyron was built for the road, not the track. This SSC is really ugly, waaaaaay longer and wider that the Veyron, which makes it harder to use in small areas, and since it's rear wheel drive, alot less safe to use. Give the Veyron the respect it deserves and Shut up. Just because a car with a higher top speed comes along does not make the Veyron redundant. You guys forget the extra something that the Veyron has that most supercars don't and that is called CLASS