no thanks chevy! you can keep it!

I thought the ACR Viper was quicker than the ZR1 at the Ring!???

Side airbags are now standard? That’s what was holding me back on the 2009!!!!

No thanks. I’ll wait for the hybrid ZR1, thank you.

JakeK, it probably just made it cheaper for them to get rid of the option and stick a little extra on the window price.

Bavarian the operative word is that the ACR Viper “IS” faster than the ZR-1 But probably The Toyota LF-A Supercar is going to out do the ACR. Speaking of which. THe GT-R and GTR- V Spec are also Faster than the ZR-1.
But Even if the awesome performance specs of the normal GTR isn’t enough to convince you chevy fan boys. I think this Just might shut you up for Good! I just got word that Hennessey has gotten a Hold of a GTR and dubbed it the GT-R 600 .
While the Normal GTR makes 473 HP.the Hennessey GT-R 600 output to 640 HP which levels the playing field in terms of power with the Viper and Corvette ZR-1.
However, once you include the GT-R’s AWD capability its all over but the shouting from the Cry Babies over at Chevy. You might as well be park the ZR-1 in the garage because the Hennessey will thing blows everything else out of the water…and it may even take on the Veyron!
Listen to these Performance numbers something the ZR-1 Chevy Fan boys can only Dream of

The GTR600 hit 60 mph in a scant 2.9 seconds and reached 100 mph in 6.5. The quarter-mile mark goes by in10.8 sec. I Rest my Case Chevy Boys! Oh Yeah!

Now who’s next of yeah Veyron. Veyron does 0-60 in 2.7 Seconds
I see Hennessey has gone further with the GTR800 0-60 in 2.6 Seconds see ya later 1000 HP Bugatti Veyron!

ZR-1 in comparison Does a 3.4 Second run with matches the 473 HP GTR in 0-60. Does a Quarter mile in 11.3 Seconds Geez that’s Slower than Molasses. a Full Second Behind the GTR at 10.3 –sorry it was a typo last one. 10.3 Seconds . I would be willing to bet that the Hennessey GT-R can break a 7 Minute Ring Time and take the Quarter number 10 seconds easily!

LOL, paying $110,000 for a Vette was NEVER a “bargin”. Thats about as stupid as saying a GT500 Mustang is a Bargin. God people are stupid. Does no-one realise that you could build up a C6 (aka, a ZR1) to blow away a ZR1 for ALOT less than $110,000? I mean, thas all a ZR1 is, its not desirable, exotic, its just a hopped up C6. And the reason those eruo sports cars cost 200k is because they dont HALF ASS everything like in the ZR1. The ZR1 is not even in the same ballpark as those eruo cars. Saying that is JUST as stupid as saying a hopped up WRX cometes with Lambo’s and Ferraris. You can just soup up a Pile and claim its better than REAL european sports cars.

Seriously if you like the ZR1, your an idiot. There really is no other way of saying it. It shows a total lack of care on the quality side, the exotic side, the fun side, the unique, it just throws all that out the window. And, somehow, it even fails on the Tuner side, because thats WAY to much for a souped up C6. Check prices on 800hp lenginfelter pacages. Seriously what idiot would buy this thing. Same idiot who bought the GT500. god, you people. I swear.

@Bankruptcy2009… those 0-60 and 1/4 mile times in the GTR are with the launch control correct? so void the warranty, rape your tranny, but hey atleast you are faster for 10..maybe 15 launches…

Bankruptcy2009 06/16 @ 6:12p,

You should double check your data. NEITHER GT-R35 reg.and VSpec and faster than the ZR-1. Though admittedly the GT-R VSpec comes painfully close (0.3sec and 2.25 km/h short). Still the number do not lie. The GT-R35 still loses.

You can hold out hope for HENNESSEY to make a Monster GT-R but it won’t count. If it isn’t factory and NOT being sold on the open market,THE IT DOES NOT COUNT. Arguably HENNESSEY will not be selling competed mods, and I wouldn’t want to drive one anyway. It’ll eat the Tranny in under a third the warranty (36,000 miles). It’ll be mods kits they will install for you. A far cry from RUF and the 911, or ROUSH and the Mustang who actually buy them and build them then sell them. But then, including HENNSSEY, it is not First party factory. Thusly any accomplishments with that car do not count.

I know you want to say “In yer face!” like a spoiled little punk, but the GT-R35, while impressive, is not proving anything beyond what everyone knew ages ago: “If you cram enough tech into a car you can do some crazy stuff.” The trick is doing it without the tech. A feat the Japanese may be fortunate never to have to accomplish. Nah that’s not entirely true. There was the NSX and maybe the S2000. But the Japanese never really did it more than twice which is a shame.

All the same, I want to see the GT-R35 make a living in international competition where it will have to play by the same rules as everyone else. No AWD, limited slip Diff only, No hydraulically controlled units, and you can already see talk that the ALMS and LMS GT-R35 may have to forgo the TTV6 for a V8, pointing to reliability issues under fire. Something almost none of the Competition has a problem with. With all that is the GT-R35 actually the one competing or is something else racing in its stead? This all could mean that the GT-R35 is nothing more than a very good pile of tech. Is it a game changer? Not unless you can change the game. Which has not happened and likely never will in the life time of the car. Otherwise it is just another anomaly no one will care about in another year or two.

Still it might be interesting to see what the “Supercar to beat them all” can do without its bionics.

the ring claims are lost on me, what impartial observer is there to insure the car is stock? that’s the point, right? these are production cars being run around the ring…ultimately you’d even want the same driver to drive every car and have him or her say “that was my best lap, i can go no faster with this car”…there are so many variables that aren’t controlled properly that a few seconds here or there aren’t really meaningful…the difference between 441 seconds and 437 seconds when the cars aren’t run on the same day, w/the same weather conditions and w/the same driver, yadda yadda, isn’t an apples to apples test…

and even if it’s slower, i’d rather have a veyron…it sounds like a freakin’ starship…

GTS-R, 06/16 @ 6:36p

Compared to the majority of cars capable of the same performance, the ZR-1 is a bargain. Of course if you have and don’t mind parting with $250K or more, go right ahead.

You may think it less than intelligent to buy a ZR-1, but then you probably can’t. Worse you probably can’t drive and dream of a car that will do it all for you like playing a video game. Good luck with that, it might give you solace as people blow by you in their cars you think so poorly of as you can barely muster 10sec to 60 in your POS.

I’m sure your fantasies will all come true when GT5 finally ships for PS3.

Sorry Bankruptcy2009, but I laughed out loud when I read your post. If you have to compare an aftermarket tuned GTR to a stock ZR1 you have already lost the argument. There are aftermarket tuned Chevy Duramax pickup trucks that are in the 9’s, so whats your point?

GTS-R THE New 2010 Mustang GT500 is a Good car for $49,000 alot better than the old GT500 that was $85,000 and to that I can agree the 2009 was overprice. But where Ford fall short is that even though it has better performance #’s but they still are’nt very best yet I mean 0-60 in 3.9 and 4.0 is better than last years 4.5 second run but absolutely no good against Nissan’s GT-R that which is more than capable of Ripping sub 3 second 0-60 times at 3.4, 2.9, and even 2.6 respectively let alone Quarter miles at 11.3 seconds. Simply 4.0 sec from 0-60 and 12.4 seconds in the Quarter mile is better. While its not far behind it still not in the World Class league just yet. I’d like to see an AWD Mustang Giugiaro -”Sleek Style” and lighten Mustang that embodies and Embellishishes on the old Mustang style and then take Mustang to a whole new level. Ford fans should have to wait for British AC to pull the engine out of the Mustang and put it in their Cobra – Ford should take the car to the Pinnacle. Until then its Nissan GTR all the WAY!

Hey Blakkarr say that as I Cross the Finish Line 1st and take the Trophy Home. THE GT-R Does Count. So there! IN your face Blakkarr! Chevy Boy.

No Blakkarr Those problems were fix but your someone that relies on old date at this point. Sorry that’s yesterdays news!

Blakkarr One last thing do you think if a GT-R is capable of Hitting 0-60 in 2.9 Seconds and 9.9 seconds in the 1/4 mile do you think its safe to say the ZR-1 at 3.4 and 11.6 seconds isn’t even in the same league almost identical horsepower and about 800 lighter on top of that. Geesh that embarrassing. I’m embarrassed for you!

Bavarian, the ACR is faster than the ZR1 in the ‘ring, hence why LLN specifically compared it to the more costly European supercars and not all supercars in general.

Let’s see what Lexus LF-A got. anyway, if I have $120,000 I would buy Viper SRT10 ACR. Poisonous monster is still alive.

Bankrupcty… if you want to talk about HPE cars, the Hennessey ZR1 does 0-60 in 2.9… and again your times are with the launch control which doesnt mean **** when nissan has gone ahead and taken it out of the 2010 GTR

but you go pick up a 2009 GTR, kill a handful of people at the strip, then have it sit in your garage while you wait to pay for your new pos tranny

plus with the ZR1 coming with its own launch control, expect faster times from it

Actually, GTS-R if you DON’T like the ZR1 and bash it, then you are an idiot.

Wow Bankruptcy2009, that must be some car seeing how it just got 4 tenths faster from your first post to your last(rol eyes). I’m not Blakkaar but I can easily answer your last comment. Since you insist on comparing aftermarket to stock let me explain. Factory cars HP numbers are rated at the flywheel, an aftermarket tuning company on the other hand rates at the rear tires. In other words the “aftermarket tuned” GTR is putting down more HP. By the way, there are plenty of aftermarket Vettes that will eat your Hennessey GTR alive. I guess I still don’t get your point unless your just extremely bored.

And here is another reason not to go souping up a base corvette Bankrupt you halfwit…
THE ZR1 HAS A 100,000 MILE POWERTRAIN WARRANTY
yeah, they are standing by their car as long as hyundai will, and I dont see your asian buddies hitting 200 mph. blow it out your import loving ass. (by the way, the GT-R only does 199 mph, sorry.)

And LLN, the Chevy website says the ZR1 lists from $106,620 for the 2009 model, so the price hike isnt so high.

The ZR-1 is a very good supercar, even Porsche test engineers admitted it.

Respect.

A lot of passion on this article

I am a fan of the ZR-1 (and upcoming Lexus LF-A), and I think getting 3.3 from the factory, with a major warranty, and now launch control, which should make it that much faster, is a huge feather in GM’s cap

I don’t count any car that is aftermarket tuned, at least in how it relates to OEM cars.

The LF-A is RUMORED to clear The Ring at 7:24. I don’t think Lexus wants to release numbers now, as the car is still being finalized, and seeing it work The Ring, it was barely breaking a sweat.

Toyota showed with the Supra that if they want to build a legendary sports car, they are more than capable.

The LF-A is GORGEOUS at the Car shows, BTW
DrFill

What there is to dicker about: if you can afford 104K for ‘Vette you can afford 107K. And another couple grand for rear view mirror dice and nice floor carpets.

WOW… that was tiring reading all those posts ! Doesn’t sound like anybody is going to change their mind though.

Bankruptcy2009 is a 12 year old kid in high school carrying an issue of Motor Trend in his backpack every month. His mom drives a ‘96 Ford Taurus 3.0L Duratec V6 LX Wagon with a broken front engine mount, leaking valve cover gasket, and cylinder misfire number 3 due to a bad coil. He doesn’t even have his license yet.

Upon frying the 4L60E in my Envoy, I have rebuilt it from the ground up utilizing the red eagle power pack, kolene steels, billet servo, carbonite power band, sunshell beast, trans-go heavy duty shift kit, and yank torque converter. I also upgraded to the deep pan with coordinating filter and gasket. I also installed with pride, a twin-turbo kit with air-to-air intercoolers from LPE. The Vortec 4200 inline-6 internals are bone stock, yes they are that good. PCMforless retuned my powertrain computer with shift firmless level 3, variable cam phasing advance, rear oxygen sensor ignore, and 100% torque management delete. The Auto Trac 4WD transfer case with limited-slip rear end was removed in favor of the SmartTrak AWD transfer case with G80 locking rear end. A custom made Magnaflow exhaust with cat and resonator delete round things off.

What’s your point Bankruptcy2009 pre-teen child? Stop dreaming in your phony Paul Walker world. Everyone knows you’re a 2 Fast 2 Furious fan boy that hasn’t even applied for a learners permit. My SUV pulls 9’s in 1/4 mile on 20-inch wheels with street tires all day long without any launch control devices. This beast puts down 775 wheel horsepower after frictional lost is calculated. The only GT-R you own is the Hot Wheels $0.97 diecast toy car from Wal-Mart. You ain’t got sh*t. Big bubba here has got the goods to do trucks right and do your mom right. It’s my version of a reborn Typhoon. Want proof? I’ll be happy to send anyone pics, time slips, or dyno sheet prints. So what kind of price/speed argument is this? I have $50k invested total with parts and labor including the original purchase price of the truck as new in 2002.

Vortec, in all seriousness, I’d love to see a video of a 1/4 mile run in your beast. Post one and link us.

I really hope they don’t announce a 3% price increase on the Aveo or we could reach 200 posts all written in blood.

I think LLN posted this just to stir the pot. Is there the equivalent of sweeps week when it comes to internet blogs?

yeah i’d like to see that envoy as well, ive always wanted twin turbo’s for my vortec 6000.

Bankruptcy2009 06/16 @ 7:16p-7:21p,

Nissan did not fix the transmission. Why do you think an Australian Firm made a new heavier gear set and NISSAN just omitted the Launch control? The Transmission is a grand first attempt but a weak grinder all the same.

Do not quote the hypothetical figures of an aftermarket car that has not been built yet. Even if it has been built, as I said and it is a totally reasonable stand point, if the original manufacturer did not built it, it doesn’t matter what it can do, it doesn’t count toward the car’s competitiveness.

The GT-R35 Vspec is not much quicker or faster than the standard car. remember the HP figure is a scant 5hp more because of the Series 2 intake upgrades. There is still question as to whether NISSAN is actually telling the truth about the horsepower figure but that is not overly important. The Vspec is all handling and brake mods. 0-60 is 3.3sec WITH launch control. The C6 Z06 does that easily. The ZR-1 3.0sec flat. 1/4mile? As much as you want the GT-R35 Vspec to be “better than the Batmobile”, I’m afraid almost no factory stock production car can clear the 1/4mile in under 10sec.The SCC Ultimate AERO and the BUGATTI VEYRON can, I’m sure.

Next, Your response only says you know I’m right. The GT-R35 will not win a race without a massive series of omissions and changes in which case it is NOT the car you can buy which means nothing short of THE GT-R35 CAN NOT WIN IN INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION.

Lastly, While I’m a fan of AMERICAN automobiles, and I am a Fan of the CORVETTE and the VIPER, I am and FORD man, not CHEVROLET.

Andy you forgot to read my earlier post. Another idiot who can’t read. The launch control does’nt matter. Even if the launch control is R _E _ M_O_V_E_D it will still DO 0-60 in 2.9 Seconds. And name me one even one after market Vette do better than 2.9. You Can’t. let alone even a mighter 2.6 sprint. Its basically faster than The McLaren F1 ,Mosler, or any production supercar on the planet and that includes the 1.5 million dollar Bugatti Veyron.

I think what is funny is you go right past my argument. Here a car now equal to the ZR-1 in power and 800 Lbs Heavier Completely Annihilates it.

would you fcuks stop trying to compare Hennessey cars and Shelby cars to the regular production models please.
Its not even in the same freakin category.

You put a stock GT-R that just rolled off the assembly line next to a stock ZR1 that just rolled off the assembly line, and the ZR1 wins. end of fcuking story.

Quit trying to manipulate the stats, and comparisons in your favor like the Japanese gov’t does day in and day out, you worthless import humping anti-American piecse of $hit

Wrong Bigs a Stock Missan GT-R Skyline will take a Corvette ZR-1 in the wet weather Look Sick and pathetic in comparison. now its End of Story on Production models. Even on Dry pavement with Just 2 less cylinders and almost 200 Less horsepower and it beats it! SO much for PRODUCTION model. Can no one see the apples to apples comparison. I mean on people get real.

Mr. Bankruptcy, most people don’t race cars in the rain. The ZR-1 is faster. Faster to 100, faster to 150, and faster to 200. Yup, it’s just faster. Think of how slow the GT-R would be if it didn’t have all wheel drive. It’s pretty cool that it does though.

show me where the GTR does 0-60 stock in 2.9 seconds without launch control (HPE tuned cars mean jack **** if you are comparing to the ZR1, might aswell say the f*cking space shuttle can outrun the GTR…. plus it can maintain an orbit).
no one really cares what you have to say because you’re wrong.. the only reason people are responding to your posts is that they are hoping, so very much, that you truly arent retarded and willing to even just compromise… but so far you have shown no sign of normal brain function leading us to believe you are cast for the Tropic Thunder ‘Simple Jack’ spin off.

Idiot

Or think of how fast the ZR-1 would be if it did have all wheel drive. Now that would be sweet, but it’s not what an American supercar is all about. Now that would be apples to apples, and the gap would be even greater.

Who cares if a tuned Hennessey Nissan GT-R is faster than a showroom stock Corvette ZR1? A stock GT-R is SLOWER than a stock ZR1. A LPE tuned ZR1 is FASTER than a Hennessey GT-R. Bankruptcy2009 tells his classmates than a Mitsubishi Evo can outrun a Lamborghini Murcielago or a Subaru WRX STi will beat a Ferrari Enzo. A few months ago, this kiddy coral clown even said that his mom’s ‘96 Taurus LX smoked a ‘98 LS1 Z28 SS and Firebird Trans Am.

Beatusmongous and A4, here’s an engine shot of my Magnetic Red Metallic twin turbo Envoy SLT with the Vortec 4200 inline-6: http://www.geocities.com/cheezyrob/2002GMCEnvoySLTtwinturbo.jpg

Video to be added in the coming weeks. It’ll be worth it, trust me.

I think I’d get a 2010 Gran Sport for $55k and spend $10k on supercharger upgrades for a ZR-1 clone.

A4, the guys at http://www.ststurbo.com/ will be glad to fill your order.

Sorry to break it to you BankruptBaby. That’s a C6 Z06 beating a GTR35. Now does anyone remember how much faster the ZR-1 is than the C06?

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Stock-GTR-R35-vs-Stock-C6_201836.htm

Awww… your tears taste soooo sweet!

I’m rockin’ the ACME backpack rocket (the one where you light the fuse so you KNOW it’s fast) and ACME brand roller skates. It’s true that I’ll void my warranty as soon as I light the fuse, but ya’ll are gonna be hella-jealous when I whiz on by. I’ll even let you hold any hypothetical trophy while I kiss your girlfriend.

p.s. I’m using the aftermarket “‘Ring” that was sport-tuned by Wiley-Coyote-Racing-Unlimited. There aren’t even any turns, so now you have no hope of beating me on your basic ‘ring. Face it, circular rings are worthless stock and are passe. REAL rings are straightened by geniuses. Word.

Yeah Ive had a look at the STS system it would definately be what I went with if I ever pulled it together.

and dont forget biff152, the GT-R tops out at 199 MPH, the ZR1 is the only one that’ll hit the 200 mark.

Bankruptcy2009
“Blakkarr One last thing do you think if a GT-R is capable of Hitting 0-60 in 2.9 Seconds and 9.9 seconds in the 1/4 mile”
LOL!!! And i can do 0-60 in 2.7. Without a car! All i need is really high cliff…

Wow the teens came out on this one full force…stick to popping zits boys…

why are people bragging about the LF-A? It hasnt been introduced and we have no specs. In addition, its going to be a limited run car like the Ford GT that wont even be in mass production.

Everyone knows how Nissan has inflated it’s numbers on the GT-R. Porsche, Chevy and now even Ferrari have each bought there own GT-R’s and have not been able to match Nissan’s claims in the ring; and please don’t tell me that they don’t know how to drive the car because the last time I checked, Porsche, Chevy and Ferrari have a huge amount of racing heritage, all sponsor some of the best professional race drivers and all of their engines are represented in the top racing leagues in the world. It’s obvious Nissan is full of **** with their numbers. While the GT-R is no doubt fast, it still isn’t going to take on the best of what Corvette, Porsche and Ferrari have to offer. Let’s be honest also, I’ll take a 911, Corvette Z06 any day for $85K over the GT-R…and sure I’ll shave maybe a 1/2 of second off of the 0-60 times, but a 911 is a hell of lot nicer looking and has a lot more panache then a Nissan.

Lot of mud slinging here. How many of you have actually driven these cars, to their limits, to be so judgmental?

Yeah, bunch of teen bops love to post stupid sh*t on here.

LF-A? Non-existent car they’re bragging about?

GT-R that blows up its tranny and is ugly as squat? Hennessey GT-R that will void your warranty?

ZR-1 is bad-arse, but I just can’t see how it justifies $50k over a Z06.

Driven a zr1 to the limits on the proving grounds in Milford Michigan.
I needed a new pair of boxer shorts after just 1 pass.
it was simply incredible

also driven a family friends Cyber Grey Metallic on the streets of my hometown.
Could only make it into second gear in about a quarter miles distance
that was also extremely fun

Anderson you got two names right for Real Racing and Formula one its always been Porsche and Ferrarri, and Ford. Those Companies can talk. And excuse me who is Chevy? they have’nt even been around for even a hundred years ( And they may not even make it) and are a relative Newcomber. The unfortunate thing for Nascar Fake Automobile racing fans is the Chevy may not last a hundred years. They may die in Bankruptcy some where down the line. Now without Olds and Pontiac gone more dead weight . All I can say is WHO’s NEXT. Buick and GMC are also just completely worthless (both rebadged Chevy’s in my and most people’s estimation. And finally Chevy heck that’s junk too.
If Chevy goes down the el tubo Vortec will have no other choice but to drive his rusted 1970 Chevelle that’s falling apart to the junkyard. But then again Anyone that names themself after a GM engine that’s noisy and needs an major overhaul before 100,000 miles is bound to be a total fool anyway.
And back to my dear Friend Andy. Hey baby it don’t matter. When the GTR 600 Crosses the finish line under 7 minutes at the Famed German Nuremberg raceway. It don’t matter baby it won and you and your ZR1 can suck on my exhaust fumes cause that is about as close is that Chevy T*** is gonna get to me.

Now Teahead I just mentioned the myriad of cars that are faster than a gay ZR1
LF-A, Skyline, Porsche GT3, Dodge Viper ACR, and eventually Acura’s NSX( Will happen), Mosler,Mclaren F1, and now all we need is a revamp Ford Mustang and that too will be Faster than the gay Corvette. lol So there you have it gay Chevy fan boys. Tons of Choices over your junk. And we can’t forget about our boys over at Ferrarri, Lambos, and or believe it or not Misubishi is getting serious with the Mitsubish EVO FQ-400 that might too blow past the ZR1 as well. So enjoy looking at there tail lights ZR1 owners cause that’s ALL your gonna see!

Bankruptcy2009 , i was about to respond to you , but then i saw you calling a car gay. seriously ? gay ZR1 ? how old are you ?

@Bankruptcy: I’m a GT-R fan as well, but would much prefer the simpler, ballsier R34 GT-R with the right modifications, as this could incinerate any R35 and be much more engaging to drive, requiring more talent.

Having said this, The R35 GT-R is has very short gearing to compensate for its “disadvantage” in power and higher weight in comparison to the Z06 and ZR1. (the GT-R’s engine output rating from Nissan has been dyno proven to be underrated by anywhere from 30-50hp.) By the way, Nissan has never officially compared or pitted the base GT-R against the ZR1, only the Z06. The GT-R spec V is a better comparison to the ZR1, but still not apples to apples, as the spec V is intended as a street legal (maybe) track car, with extreme weight-reduction measures (carbon fiber body panels, taller fixed wing, improved aerodynamics, almost no sound proofing materials, heavier duty suspension parts, slightly more power… etc…)

So Again the GT-R in comparison with Z06 and ZR1 has the advantages (for acceleration) of the extremeiy advanced ATTESA-ETS AWD system and much shorter gearing, among others

@ Andy and Blakaar : the 2010 GT-R will retain its launch control, it has been modified, with a lower launch rpm and cannot be used without stability control disabled to protect the longevity of the Double-Clutch-Direct-Shift transmission

@MHW : LOL !

@scottns: Agreed!

*** @ Andy and Blakaar : the 2010 GT-R will retain its launch control, it has been modified, with a lower launch rpm and cannot be used without stability control to protect the longevity of the Double-Clutch-Direct-Shift transmission ***

Does everyone realize that both the GT-R AND the ZR-1 can exist? There is a market for both and who are you to say which car is better. Let the person buying the car, which is none of us, choose for themselves. Both cars are simply too fast for any practical application.

The GT-R IS NOT faster than the ZR1 on the ‘Ring. The LF-A doesn’t even exsist so why does it matter. I can almost gaurantee that the LF-A won’t break 7:45 on the ‘Ring. Which is still VERY fast and no one would complain. The LF-A is going to be a competitor for the R8. Look at the R8 numbers, V8 or V10.

As for me. I will never understand who pays $85k for a NIssan or worse yet, $110k for a Chevy. I will sacrafice some performance for a bit of refinement. $85k, give me a 911. $110K, give me an R8 or even Granturismo or Vantage. Those are real cars. Not $50k Corvettes with mods.

^^You sound like an old hairdresser. There are a lot of different angles to loving cars. Some people just want a track car.
This pssing match over the ring time is the funniest thing Ive ever heard. There is a whole class of cars faster around the ring then the GT-R, ZR-1 and the Toy that never was.

Hey Cyclone the GT-R 600 would easily “BURY” the corvettes time or should i say rather WIN in convincing Fashion over the Limp D*** ZR1 @ “The RING” no Problemo. Thems the fact babe.

Wow Bankruptcy2009, does everyone realize you are only 12 years old? A 1970 Chevelle? They are worth $100,000 at Barrett Jackson each year, so if you find one at the junk yard, let me know, kiddy coral clown.

FYI, my username is the engine in my Envoy which is going on 188k miles with all original stock internals on double boost. Overhaul before 100k miles? You reak Import Tuner fruit loop fan boy-ism. The 4L60E is actually the transmission, not the engine. My 4L60E had a cracked sunshell due to abusive driving, occuring at 119k miles. For sh*ts and giggles, I rebuilt and upgraded the tranny myself for under $1000.

For other sh*ts and giggles, you are STILL a 12 year old pre-teen with Super Street magazine in your backpack.

I’m voting Bankruptcy as best troll of 2009. He’s obviously a Corvette fan who’s just acting like a 12 year old to try to give GT-R fans a bad name. Look at all the responses he’s generated on this Corvette thread. Only a real Corvette fan would try so hard to deny statistics and rely on aftermarket unreleased mods to try to get people to quote back to him the actual currently-available stock stats that the ZR-1 puts out. He wants us all to be reminded of just how much power the ZR-1 puts out and by gum it worked! Thank you Bankruptcy2009 for reinvigorating my love for Corvettes.

I saw Colin Powell speak at a high school graduation in D.C. this week and even he mentioned his Corvette. As a C5 owner myself I’m proud to be in such good company. You know, aside from the bit where he got up in front of the nation and told us all beyond a shadow of a doubt that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, but that’s all in the past. Let us look forward now to a newer and more expensive ZR-1!

THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU BUY A ZR-1 UR BUYING THE NAME NOT THE CAR. YOU CAN BUY A Z06 AND ADD A COUPLE THINGS TO IT AND MAKE IT SPANK THE ZR-1 FOR STILL UNDER 100K

TornadoGTI….I’m on the same page. Without a doubt, for $85K, same price as the Nissan, I would easily be in a 911 and have style over being in a kids street racer with a giant NISSAN badge on it. For $110K, I would easily be in a Aston or maybe a demo 911 Twin Turbo. Great, so both the Vette and Nissan will be .5 seconds faster to 60mph, but I’d be driving a racing legend versus a Tonka Toy.

Vortec your not telling it like it is. The Old Vortec Chevy engine thown in your soon to defunct GMC Envoy. I tell ya folks I’ve been to over to his pig stye of a home, but let me tell ya. His Envoy is saddest thing you ever did want to see that is of course next to its owner ole Vortec himself lol But the Enjoy Has Cracked Head, warped cylinders snd connecting rods , All main Seals leak like a Sive, Oil just Ooozes right down the side of it, when he starts it up after 20 cranks you can just smell the burning blue smoke.

He tries to hide his Oil Leak Problem by washing the Engine block down on a weekly basis the oil leaking and dripping is so bad. I say buy up some of the oil remove to clean up your Driveway which tells a different story. So we know He’s Lyin like a Dog. Not to mention the fact the transmission is shoddy, it hunts around for gears constantly never knowing what gear to be in kind of like his brain always hunting around for a thought of get a clue on what he should be doing with his LIFE! ROFL.

Bankruptcy2009….where the hell are you getting this BS information. It’s people like you why every time I look at the GT-R all I can think about is the fag fanboys like you that just talk so much crap….false crap. No way will a stock Nissan GT-R in launch mode will run a 9.9 quarter, the bugatti veyron with all wheel drive and double the horsepower can’t even do it. The GT-R runs 11.6s and the Zr1 can run 11.2-.3 and with only drag radials it’s run 10.80s. You even admitted the GT-R and ZR1 have the same 0-60mph. Now how the hell would the Nissan be faster 60mph and above if the Zr1 matched it’s 0-60 with TWO WHEEL DRIVE. The Zr1 is also faster around a track, ever so slightly, but now this 2010 corvette has an awesome system that will even make it faster around a track (.5 sec faster with even professional drivers around a 1 min track) and take a full tenth off its 0-60mph. Considering the cost of airbags and this system….no crap the price will increase a little.

SoCalfive0…….some might think 107K is too much for a corvette but that’s only the guys that would have a ferrari nameplate than actual performance. By the way I haven’t seen a Zr1 go up in flames yet whereas this month alone there were four ferraris that burnt to the ground including an enzo. I’ll show you why you are not just buying a ZR1 badge for the additional $35,000.

The engine is better and the supercharger system costs $7000.
The front carbon fiber facia, hood, fenders, and roof cost over $10,000.
The clear coat on the carbon fiber costs about $800 per car.
Bigger rims and tires
Stronger drivetrain
The Brembo carbon ceramic brakes make this the only car to do a sub 100ft 60-0 and cost $20,000

This is all off the top of my head and there is already the cost plus some.

well said….I personaly think the GT-R is garbage. and there is no way in hell it would run 9.9 in launch mode a 67 fastback with a ford racing 347 on a 300 shot runs low 9’s obviously on slicks( i would know). and a stock GT-R runs 9’s yea F**kin right. thats even if the car can make it down the track without blowing the trans, and if you did it would cost you a pretty penny to fix it because the warrany company would just laugh at you. that car was a failed attempt to replicate the skyline

camaro35th, ill admit the zr-1 is an amazing car but i mean people b**ch about it being to expensive. if they cant afford it then dont worry about it. the zr-1 is a collector not a daily driver.

Bankruptcy, who gives a flying **** about the GTR600, im sure a tuned civic stands a chance at beating ZR1 numbers… what about the HPE ZR1? not as good 0-60 claims on the HPE website compared to the GTR600, but i bet it would still kill the GTR600 around the track.
you want 1/4 mile times to really mean anything then hit the strip, but then that awd goes to waste

the gtr is a fine car, just not as fine as the ZR1… and stop bringing up the GTR600, it means nothing

I can’t believe GT-R fans are complaining about the price of the ZR1 when for the spec-v GT-R they took out the seats and other luxuries and charge $160,000, I’m sure the brakes are great in it but for $50,000 I think the money would have been better spent on other parts of the car such as taking away some more of the pig fat. If the GT-R V could do 7:18 around the nurburgring and the 2009 Zr1 did 7:22 plus counting in the new traction control race system in the vette they should both do 7:18. Just one gives you enough money left over to buy a worked 1967 fastback mustang that could run low 9’s.

@A4: The top speed for the GT-R is limited to 199, but whenever you arrive at a racetrack the car knows via gps and disables the limit. So if someone were inclined to do so, they could push the car beyond 199. Just a fun tidbit.

@vortec4200: You’re Envoy sounds ridiculous. The only thing I can think of that comes close is another forum member on another site with a 3rd gen Explorer. He did an engine swap for a 5.0L V8 with a turbo and intercooler kit. It put down around 500whp, and I thought that was nuts. I can only imagine what people think when they’re being blown away by an Envoy.

@SomeGreek: You’d be going about 33.5 m/s or 75mph after 2.7 seconds if you could find that cliff haha.

@Bankruptcy2009: I don’t even know where to begin with all the bs. I think everyone else has said enough in the forum for me. But a sub 7 minute lap time at the Nürburgring in a GT-R? Wtf are you thinking, I really don’t think you understand how fast that is.

i think bankruptcy is a girl of a fag. ive notice “it” calling everyone babe LMAO

SoCalSissy your a joke. Andy get real a GT-R is a GT-R no matter if its the base model, the V-Spec, R-35, or even if Hennessey got a hold of one does’nt matter. ok
And believe me I am sure the Next iteration of the Nissan GT-R will Cream the JunkPile Corvette. THe base model already does it. Its an EVEN match considering the fact the ZR-1 has a 200 Horsepower advantage and 800 less pounds what other means of getting an unfair advantage do you want.
THe thing I absolutely love is you guys that want to call a car a pig because its very heavy. That does’nt always make it so. THe GT-R is no exception nearly tipping the scale at almost 4,000 Lbs its no lightweight, but the AWD makes up for it big time.
And yeah I can talk as I have been at the Drag strip many times. The GT-R is more than capable of doing 9.9’s or even lower! Since we’re talking 0-60 we might as well mention Andy that the GT-R 800 runs 2.6 Seconds 0-60 that is something the Corvette only in its wet dreams can think of doing let alone the GT-R 600 2.9 sec. and oh yeah these two could easily do the Ring in under 7 Minutes mark my words. I know cars and I know how to drive em to the edge of the envelope!

Oh one more thing I have driven the GT-R and its one sweet car. This thing would tear a ZR-1 a new Butt**** its not only beautiful motorcar inside and out. I would pay last years price for a ZR-1 so its insulting they would price hike an already souped up corvette. whatever.

I would NOT PAY LAST YEAR’S Price for a ZR-1 What makes them think I’d be willing to pay this years price increase?!

Aww Bankruptcy2009, you must have drove a Power Wheels Nissan GT-R by Fischer Price/Mattel? That must be a sweet ride when you just graduated out of diapers. Now your posts all make sense. You’re not a pre-teen, your a toddler. Aww. Don’t worry, your mommy will drive her ‘96 Taurus LX Wagon with that bad front motor mount, leaking valve cover gasket, and cylinder 3 coil misfire to Wal-Mart to buy you little boy briefs with Nissan GT-Rs printed all over them. There there.

Time to put down the crack pipe Brainrupture09, you said a Corvette could only dream about a 0-60 time of 2.6. All you have to do is go to You Tube and you can watch a Lingenfelter Vette put down a 0-60 of 1.9, yes that is 1.9 in case you missed it the first time. Face it, you lost the debate!

you’re such a joke Bankruptcy

Bankruptcy2009 @ 06/17, 8:49p

We all know you are BS-ing like a Heifer with diarrhea. We also know what a GT-R35 is capable of. You just can’t stand that these isn’t an anime and the car will just magically go faster for no good reason except “that you believe it can”. This is why you keep clinging to HPE and Amuse.

The GT-R35, as NISSAN built it, is capable of 0-60MPH (not Kph) in 3.5sec with launch control (the Vspec does 3.3 sec). The reprogrammed launch control cut that back to 3.8sec. The 1/4 is 11.7 sec (11.3 with 94+ octane fuel). I found the figures of 2.9sec 0-60 and 10 sec 1/4mile you keep referring to. It was a tweaked car, adjusted turbo boost setting, with 100 octane fuel, probably racing tires too. You really think no one would find out and read the fine print? C’mon I know you think we are that stupid but only because you are.

Remarkably the Vspec isn’t really any quicker or faster despite being 200lbs lighter. It however gets off on better handling than the standard GT-R35. Still not much help. The ZR-1 is still quicker and faster and yes more agile. But needs some actual skills to take it that far. You can not honestly prove you have the skills for that… and playing Gran Turismo does not count. Plus the ZR-1’s little update will likely have the Vette chasing the VIPER ACR with little care of the GT-R35 Vspec.

As for clearing Nurburgring in under 7min. Can you name the car that did clear the ring in under seven minutes? Here’s a hint: It is British. Nope not Lotus… or Jaguar… or McLaren…

If you think raw horsepower is the answer, then consider this: the AVERAGE speed the GT-R35 Vspec pulled around the ‘Ring was 113.6MPH. The ZR-1 pulled 113.7mph. The VIPER ACR (Thank you FIAT) averaged 114.82MPH and that was probably a very stable average to undercut the Vette and GT-R35 by over four seconds.

Because Nurburgring is such a technical track the game NISSAN is playing consists of two simple rules: 1. “It isn’t how fast you can go but how fast you can keep going.” 2.”beat PORSCHE at the Ring.” More Horsepower will only unhinge the car. Otherwise, NISSAN would have built a more powerful car from the start. Unfortunately the ZR-1 AND the VIPER ACR are just faster that way, too.

Despite your wailing, It is doubtful that an HPE or AMUSE GT-R35 will do better than the stock Factory cars. In fact, I would imagine that those cars would fare poorly because they would constantly break traction, slowing the car down. The JAPANESE philosophy is about precisely honing a car to a very fine point. Heavy tuning of a Japanese sports car will inevitably break its balance, unless you tune everything at once. Even if NISSAN build a better car, it won’t be for a couple of years. They are committed to building the car they have now. Besides they’ll need the time to get the changes right.

But take some solace, the GT-R35 beat every PORSCHE factory car currently in production. Mission Accomplished.

MHW your pulling that non sense out of your ass. Their is No Corvette that can do better than 3.4 seconds NONE and that DoucheinFelter makes garbage. It runs once and its Done. Like a Dragster the motor needs replacing every race or every other race. Any Douche can put a 3000 HP drag -High Octane engine that isn’t GM at all in a car and run a stupid drag race. Those engines only last one or two races at best then there taken apart, cannabalize and then rebuilt for the next race. I know, because I have dragged before have you?! It costs money to pay for the Engine Rebuilds especially if you own a Chevy!

So guess who lost the argument you DID. GT-R WINS by a landslide I rest my Case!

Now on to Blakkarr, You sir try to come away with trying to impress me with what you read well so did everyone else including me. So. As for HP Hennessey proved it could handle 600+ HP ok so that throws your argument right out the window that a Japanese car can’t handle more power.

Secondly, the tweaking of the ZR-1 “IT” will remain in the Rear View mirror ot the Viper and has ever since the Viper came into production almost 20 years ago.

BurgerKing2009, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist for everyone on here to notice you’re full of sh*t. Can’t you take a hint? That’s great that you think Lingenfelter makes garbage because they’re the ones that custom made a twin turbo kit for my Envoy you little kiddy coral clown. B*tch, I run 9’s in it day in and day out achieving 200+ mph and I have proof with digital camera shots, dyno sheets, and time slips. I even use it as a daily driver hauling your mom around and slamming her c*nt in the cargo area. You want to whine about 0 to 60 mph? My truck clocks that in 2.0 seconds, faster than any GT-R stock or aftermarket, b*tch. Eat sh*t you Import Tuner Vin Diesel humper 3 Fag 3 Furious flaming gay boy. What kind of proof do you have that you own a GT-R Spec V? Sony Playstation does not count.

he has been proved wrong so many times its mind boggeling. people have posted sites that the gt-r is slower but he has never came up with hard facts to prove his side. you have to remember fast and the furious is jus a movie not real life. wake up from your dream and get the tampon out of your ear and listen to what people are telling you. you dont have any proof that the GT-R is faster so until then shut the F**k up Backstreetboy09

I almost think he’s just f*cking with all of us and is enjoying how annoyed we’re all getting

haha i totally agree with you

hey vortec can you post a link of your 0-60 sprint in 2 seconds? id like to see that. sounds pretty crazy! and that 200mph top speed run as well, if you would…

I currently own just a digital camera, but a digital video camcorder will be purchased soon to film my twin turbo Envoy aka my version of Typhoon II. Look for it on YouTube in the coming weeks. It’ll be hilariously sick and worth it, trust me.

The ZR1 has a better power-to-weight ratio than the Porsche 911 GT2, the Ferrari 599 and Lamborghini LP640

i mean check this link out….numbers dont lie

http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/comparator/compareVehicle.do?modelYear=2009&makeName=Dodge&modelID=5955&selectedTrim=24908&anchorVehicleYear=2009&anchorVehicleName=&anchorVehicleID=11712&comparisonVehicles=A24084%5EA24908%5EA26478&aS3_LanguageCode=7&aS3_ClientID=Chevrolet

ZR-1 vs. GT-R vs. GT500 vs. Viper SRT10

VOrtec I would Beat the **** out of you if I ever caught you. I told you once my Mother is Deceased. You have no respect. Your nothing MORE THAN A PIECE OF STINKING ****!

Yeah your ENVOY that is an absolute Joke and Envoy. I don’t think so. Come again. I won’t acknowledge your posts anymore. IF your brain was in a Frog it would jump backward!

So Cal Compare your worthless ZR-1 to the GTR-600 it’s definitely Toast! ok.

dude shut the F*** up about the GTR-600… its not a factory stock car so it doesnt matter when compared to the ZR1.
no one who loves cars should hate the ZR1 so much, its a remarkable car… and just because the GTR cant take it, you shouldnt bitch about every little aspect and try to compensate with the GTR-600… who’s to say the HPE ZR1 wouldnt rape the GTR-600 around the Ring

its sad that no matter how wrong you are, you would still argue this to your death, and even more sad that you believe you are right.

Andy
Blow it out your ass. Hennessey adjusted cars do count ok. and No the GTR 600 would take it to any POS Corvette you put against it. The Ring would be shredded by the time. 0-60 in 2.9 Seconds does’nt Lie!
Neither does 2.6 Seconds 0-60 in the GTR 800. We might as well move a little more upscale to totally embarrass you Andy. I guess that is what you want to take is a total Drubbing of the FACT!

You telling me or anyone else it isn’t faster than a ZR-1 DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACTS. IT IS FASTER.

I HAVE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ROFL AND LAUGH NOT only at Andy but Vortec that say he could do the 1/4 mile in 9 seconds in his envoy- that piece of garbage would be lucky to do 0-30 in 9 seconds much less a 1/4 mile. You an absolute joke you are.

Whoops, 142 mph. Whoa BurgerKing2009, my truck was so faster than your fictional GT-R, it made my key stroke accelerate another 6 mph!!!

“going to wave my hands in the air, suck on Bankruptcy2009’s mom’s silicone pair, while pumping her in the dairy air, because just about no one cares.”

but dude you have to the look the GT-R600 is not a factory car the ZR-1 is so its unfair already. look it up on youtube ZR-1 vs. GT-R and they will tell you hennessy also got ahold of the ZR-1 so i mean you want to play like that just wait and see what the Hennessy ZR-1 does to that piece of **** GT-R. you watch the youtube video ZR-1 vs. GT-R vs. Porsche vs. Ferrari. the ferrari and chevy dominate the **** out of the porsche and GT-R. numbers dont lie. ZR-1 factory/ GT-R600 NOT so i mean your telling me you have to dump extra money into that piece of **** to make it beat the ZR-1. INTRODUCING THE HENNESSY ZR-1 PUSHING 705HP AND 712 LB. FT OF TORQUE A 193 mph standing mile MODDED GTR is impressive, but a 196 mph standing mile ZR1 isnt. Do you even have a clue the amount of wind resistance there is at those speeds? The GTR had 700 HP versus the vettes 705 HP. To put it in idiot terms, the ZR1 is significantly more aerodynamic and could match the GTR’s top speed with much less power. This test done between to stock ones is a joke, the ZR1 is over 20 mph faster at the mile (162 vs 185).

well would you look at that the hennessy zr-1 beats the hennessy gt-r…. ITS DONE AND FINAL THE ZR-1 WINS ALL AROUND. DONT BELIEVE ME CHECK IT ON STREETFIRE.COM

. First off SoCalFiveO the GT-R can beat the ZR-1 in 0-60 and barely gets nipped in the 1/4.

However. ok – SoCalFive0 the “Factory” base model GT-R V SPEC outran the ZR-1 not only in 0-60 of course but also outran the ZR-1 in the 1/4 mi. So what part of Stock GT-R don’t you get beating your POS Corvette.

im telling you watch the video on youtube and it will show you. i mean all you have to hold that GT-R up is the 0-60 of course it would be better its all wheel drive. but thats all it can beat it at. the POS GT-R cant beat the ZR-1 in any other way.

bankruptcy, why cant you just admit you’re wrong.. GTR is a fine car, but it just cant hold up against the ZR1.

hey jsurfer@ 6/17 5:31
there is no way that the gt-r can go 200+, top gear took it to the fuji racetrack in japan,
it has the longest straightaway of any f1 track and the gt-r only went to 193. If that four mile world class track wont take off the limiter in the car’s own country then i’d say that the gt-r has so many systems that the nissan people lost count of them all and were too lazy to make sure it was there.

i think that to prove its racing supremacy, the gtr should have to participate in le mans or some other
racing league where it wont have any unfair advantages.

also, to solve the ‘ring discrepancies, someone should get Allan Mcnish (audi r15 driver who got 2nd in 24hrs of le mans) to take a hot lap in the gt-r. He is a great world class driver who drives 4wheel drive cars all the time, and wins too. If he can’t beat or equal the claimed tomes for the car, then we’ll know that the
nissan people are all a bunch of lying idiots and everybody can stop bithchin.

Well Their are plenty of cars that will Take down a ZR1. . GT-R Skyline for starters, Dodge Viper ACR, Bugatti Veyron will make a ZR1 its standing still from 0-60, then the 1/4 mile, and then like its going in REVERSE after that., Soon the Lexus LF-A will beat the ZR-1, Honda next gen NSX will kill it,
Mercedes McClaren, And I”d be willing to bet the Next Generation Ford Mustang GT 500 will smoke the Next iteration of Corvette ZR-1 as well!

@reedfast… John Heinricy, former head of GM Performance, and driver who set the CTS-V sedan record at the Ring, said it best, and that is that the engineers are the ones who are able to bank hundreds upon hundreds of laps where as actual race drivers dont have time do do such… so taking a pro driver and putting him in the hot seat may not disprove anything

Bankruptcy2009… nothing has changed, you’re still idiot… why so much hate on the ZR1
Veyron is fast but not nimble enough to beat the ZR1 lap times, hell the Z06 is almost as fast around the ring as it (same can be said for the McLaren).
assuming concept cars that cant make it around the ring without catching on fire will beat the ZR1 is hilarious (LF-A), and who’s to say the NSX will be able to.

ANdy the Veyron has never raced at the Ring but if it did it would destroy all other times.

The GT-R is Faster than the ZR1 Bwahahahahaha Ah Yes!

The Veyron has been run in the ‘ring, and the driver was able to post a 7:40 lap.

@andy
I meant that Mcnish should get to do 3 or 4 days of hot lapping to get the feel for the car

People, it’s a freakin’ supercar most of us can’t or will ever be able to afford. It’s not worth fighting over it.

meatusmongous no way the Veyron would break 7 Minutes in the Ring easily

ANDY YOU WILL EAT YOUR WORDS BEFORE LONG. GM has just taken the Plunge in Bankruptcy Court lets see how they do 5 years from now. That is if there still AROUND! Bwahahahahahaha!

Bankruptcy, you have a computer, a keyboard, and an internet connection. Use the tools at your disposal. Google “Nurburgring Lap Times”. You’ll find that the Veyron posted a 7:40 in the ring. It’s just not nimble enough. Cars have to turn in tracks, and although the Veyron will kick @$$ in a high speed test track, it can’t handle a track with tight turns. The goal of the Veyron was top speed, and to accomplish this, they had to forego many of the aerodynamic helps that would give it the necessary downforce it would need in lower speed turns. That’s physics for you. A nasty beast, physics.

wait…..is the ACR Factory???????if not, why is it being compared?

Yes, it could be compared to the viper version of the V-spec for nissan

ACR is factory, yes.

beatusmongous the Veyron could easily take that record and smash 7 minutes in the Ring “IF” and If is the operative word here wanted to. It has the ability that is another nasty word in “REALITY” BOY.

It Beats the **** out of the ZR1 which can’t even see the Veyron off in the distance somewhere !

BurgerKing2009, while you keep masturbating about the GT-R, which is merely more than a glorified Datsun garage queen with severe obesity that destroys it’s own tranny after one single run, I’ll keep pounding your mom’s juicy c*nt. Remember little boy, lipstick can’t hide the fact it’s an overweight fat b*tch just like your mom. Never fear, I like them big girls. The original 1990 ZR-1 with the Mercury Marine/Lotus engineered LT5 375-hp engine and current 505-hp Z06 is ALREADY faster than the GT-R, without any launch control aids that shread trannies inorder to produce fictional media numbers. Check us out at http://www.streetfire.net/ which will include a video with a Z06 beating the GT-R just for you BK pre-teen. Veyron? Another one of your $0.97 Hot Wheels from Wal-Mart!!! Jesus f*cking Christ, does this kiddy corral clown realize every car he brings up is a toy on top of his little night stand with Super Street decals? BurgerKing2009, go drive your little rusty Sentra with GT-R self adhesive stickers right off the edge of a cliff, provided if you can even get your learner’s permit tomorrow. While you’re at it you flaming homo boy, go jerk off to Vin Diesel and Paul Walker in your 3 Fag 3 Furious dvd movie. About 27 people on here know you’re full of sh*t, it practically comes out of your mom’s a$$hole while I’m fingering her in the back of her ‘96 Taurus LX Wagon.

Like I said, Veyron will kick @$$ in a high speed track, but it can’t handle the turns. It wasn’t made to handle turns. That’s the reality. And that is why the Veyron cannot run the ‘ring in under 7 minutes. The Veyron is incredible in a straight line, and almost no other car can go 240 miles per hour. But no car AT ALL can hit 240 miles per hour in the Nürburgring. There are other factors besides power that take place in racing. Downforce, drag, tire traction, weight, balance, camber, height, spring, braking, tire tread type, rubber compound, etc., all affect the car and its ability. In the case of the Veyron, like I said before, they went for top speed. In order to go for top speed, you have to reduce drag and friction, which in turn reduces cornering ability. So while the Veyron will absolutely leave the ZR1 in the dust on a drag strip and a in a high speed ring, it just doesn’t handle the turns as well as the ZR1, the ACR and even the GT-R. The ACR even has a lower top speed than any of the others, but because they focused on handling, it walked all over the other cars in the ‘ring.

Personally, I respect all of these cars. The GT-R is truly an amazing feat of engineering, and I really like it. If I could, I’d probably buy one. The ACR is absolutely amazing in its simplicity and its brashness. It’s a brute force monster, and I love it. The ZR1 is smooth and quick, and is a great car. I personally don’t like the ZR1 myself, but that’s my taste. However, I respect it as it is an amazing car nonetheless. The Veyron is absolutely stunning and beautiful to me, from interior to exterior to sound to everything. If I could have one, I definitely would. All are great cars, and all are great at what they do.

can anybody tell me what the ariel atom did round the ring?

The Atom hasn’t been run, unfortunately. I’m willing to bet it would post an amazing time, despite its relatively low top speed. The Atom has exceptional lateral acceleration, and it’s openness allows better visibility of the full road, which helps you to hit every apex. It’s one really sticky car.

thanks

Actually, I take that back. The Atom has been run, but its time wasn’t recorded, as it ran on a day with a bunch of other cars.

Thanks anyway???
i found a time for an Ariel Atom 300 on a public day that was not really
credible, but it was up there.

watch out ACR

my pontiac fruit fly would kill the zr1 on any track………………

People are still talking about this? It was a freakin’ price hike, nothing new!

ACR already dominated

i meant for the ACR to watch out for the Atom

oh all you boys and your overproced cars, especially bankrupt i love coming to a stoplight or at the track with any one of your overpriced quarter cars and especially all those rice burners including the gtr and smoke all your asses with a 71 ford pinto yes i said pinto or as i like to call it a redneck sports car and dust your asses with a 347 stroler motor with a mild shot of nitrous wheeeeeew how embarassing guys to get your asses handed to you by a pinto!!!!!!!!! ha ha ha keep trying

hey ****er,bankrupcy

i took the liberty to look up some specs like the veyron 0-60 which is 2.5sec you piece of ****,
HENESSEY GTR800 0-60=2.6sec SEE YA LATER TUNNING COMPANY that has to modify corvettes cause they can never be fast enough to beat a STOCK bugatti.

oh and corvette lovers,what do you think of the new 997 turbo s coming out? 0-60 in 2.8sec with launch….makes you think eh? (530hp,4seats,28mpg,6cylinder)

zr1 is a piece of crap,and you are a loser,a sore loser.
DO NOT MODIFY CAR PERFORMANCE FIGURES TO YOUR OWN BENEFIT YOU STUPID ****.
IF YOU’RE GONNA COMPARE SOMETHING DO IT RIGHT

STOCK VS STOCK
TUNER VS TUNER (like the GTR800)
loser