Comments on: Toyota exec warns public to temper plug-in hybrid expectations http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:42:28 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: NoNameDenton1 http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-388007 NoNameDenton1 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:26:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-388007 psiclone, good point, how can a car use a gallon of anything running on battery power. psiclone, good point, how can a car use a gallon of anything running on battery power.

]]> By: psiclone http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387975 psiclone Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:15:16 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387975 "Plug-in hybrids should have the capability to travel 40 miles on battery power alone, which would average out to about 100 mpg". poorly written sentence. if it traveled 40 miles on battery power alone, it wouldn't average any miles to the "gallon" because batteries don't use gasoline. it should probably have read "which, when combined with driving that requires alternator-powered recharging, would help it to average out to about 100 mpg." “Plug-in hybrids should have the capability to travel 40 miles on battery power alone, which would average out to about 100 mpg”.

poorly written sentence. if it traveled 40 miles on battery power alone, it wouldn’t average any miles to the “gallon” because batteries don’t use gasoline. it should probably have read “which, when combined with driving that requires alternator-powered recharging, would help it to average out to about 100 mpg.”

]]> By: The Stig http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387907 The Stig Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:57:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387907 Temper my expectations for any Toyota product is not a problem. Temper my expectations for any Toyota product is not a problem.

]]> By: NoNameDenton1 http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387779 NoNameDenton1 Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:29:10 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387779 xyunya is right, GM has one of Putin's good friends as a stockholder, but if Hummer is sold it will probably go to Mahindra or Tata. xyunya is right, GM has one of Putin’s good friends as a stockholder, but if Hummer is sold it will probably go to Mahindra or Tata.

]]> By: Need4SSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387768 Need4SSpeed Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:17:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387768 didn't know that... Figures. Actually the Russians should buy Hummer. They love them and need them over more than we need it here. didn’t know that… Figures.

Actually the Russians should buy Hummer. They love them and need them over more than we need it here.

]]> By: NoNameDenton1 http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387763 NoNameDenton1 Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:08:39 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387763 "When we see the (claims of) 100 mile-per-gallon stuff, not everybody's going to get 100 miles per gallon,", Thanks Captain Obvious, like all those Prius owners who get milage lower then posted by the EPA. “When we see the (claims of) 100 mile-per-gallon stuff, not everybody’s going to get 100 miles per gallon,”, Thanks Captain Obvious, like all those Prius owners who get milage lower then posted by the EPA.

]]> By: brassmonkey http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387755 brassmonkey Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:58:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387755 Hybrid drivers are so damn stupid. If you plug in, where do you think the electricity comes from? Surprisingly little comes from hydro or wind farms or solar. A high percentage comes from BURNING COAL. And are you really saving all of us by getting an extra mpg, but now you need a different form of energy to drive? Asswipes. Hybrid drivers are so damn stupid. If you plug in, where do you think the electricity comes from? Surprisingly little comes from hydro or wind farms or solar. A high percentage comes from BURNING COAL. And are you really saving all of us by getting an extra mpg, but now you need a different form of energy to drive? Asswipes.

]]> By: xyunya http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387725 xyunya Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:26:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387725 BTW, the largest single shareholder of GM shares is one of the Putin cohorts; probably representing "the man" himself. The only conciliation I have that fucken commie lost his as on that stock purchase. BTW, the largest single shareholder of GM shares is one of the Putin cohorts; probably representing “the man” himself. The only conciliation I have that ****en commie lost his as on that stock purchase.

]]> By: Need4SSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387722 Need4SSpeed Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:16:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387722 Haha LMAO "GM helped win the Cold War?" Haha LMAO “GM helped win the Cold War?”

]]> By: xyunya http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387706 xyunya Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:00:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387706 Need4SSpeed, GM owned Hughes corporation as well, and Hughes was instrumental in most of NASA activities. and DoD. DoD arm race in 80's partially credited with destruction of "Evil Empire" and communism in Europe. GM has hand in that as well? Are we splitting hair a little bit :) Need4SSpeed, GM owned Hughes corporation as well, and Hughes was instrumental in most of NASA activities. and DoD. DoD arm race in 80’s partially credited with destruction of “Evil Empire” and communism in Europe. GM has hand in that as well? Are we splitting hair a little bit :)

]]> By: Jordan http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387704 Jordan Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:00:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387704 japan wasn't part of the space race... that was russia. japan wasn’t part of the space race… that was russia.

]]> By: SickofGarbageMotors http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387702 SickofGarbageMotors Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:57:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387702 "Toyota is just pissy because GM has a lead over them on the technology." LOL, two full generations of Prius cars, a generation of midisze SUV's (HL/RX) and Luxury sedans (GS/LS) and everyday cars (Camry) is behind the General??? Fockin GM can't even get their "mild" shit right (leaking batteries anyone?, pathetic gas mileage and lower performance than its base 4-cylinder counterpart?) and that system isn't even overly complex compared to HSD. Why should we think GM has some kind of a lead in this segment? Because Bob Putz said so? GM is going to fall flat on its ass when the Volt comes out, hate to break it to ya. Even if Lutz's vaporware does make it to market, Toyota will be well in to it's next generation Prius which is already wildly successful and the public knows exactly what the flock their buying because of a little something called reputation., something that the Volt has Zero of (not counting the failed EV1 program, ya people are going to want some of that all over again!) and with an at AT LEAST 40 grand asking price, I highly doubt there will be too many people lining up to take that gamble. Toyota jumping in to take on GM will be a side business, cushioned by yet another 200k Prius sales, something that GM doesn't have the luxury of falling back on if the whole plug in concept backfires. GM is a leader of nothing. “Toyota is just pissy because GM has a lead over them on the technology.”

LOL, two full generations of Prius cars, a generation of midisze SUV’s (HL/RX) and Luxury sedans (GS/LS) and everyday cars (Camry) is behind the General??? Fockin GM can’t even get their “mild” **** right (leaking batteries anyone?, pathetic gas mileage and lower performance than its base 4-cylinder counterpart?) and that system isn’t even overly complex compared to HSD.

Why should we think GM has some kind of a lead in this segment? Because Bob Putz said so? GM is going to fall flat on its ass when the Volt comes out, hate to break it to ya. Even if Lutz’s vaporware does make it to market, Toyota will be well in to it’s next generation Prius which is already wildly successful and the public knows exactly what the flock their buying because of a little something called reputation., something that the Volt has Zero of (not counting the failed EV1 program, ya people are going to want some of that all over again!) and with an at AT LEAST 40 grand asking price, I highly doubt there will be too many people lining up to take that gamble.

Toyota jumping in to take on GM will be a side business, cushioned by yet another 200k Prius sales, something that GM doesn’t have the luxury of falling back on if the whole plug in concept backfires.

GM is a leader of nothing.

]]> By: shaver http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387683 shaver Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:29:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387683 How long will the cord be? How long will the cord be?

]]> By: horvatic http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387671 horvatic Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:15:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387671 Dannyface get a clue will you. Just because it's a hybrid doesn't make it unreliable. Also hybrid means it uses some gasoline which means the gas motor can take over. And it won't run out of charge because it regenerates its charge from braking and from the gas motors alternator. The plug-in part means there will be extra battery power that is charged from an outlet. But just because that runs out doesn't mean the car will simply stop running. Toyota wouldn't build it if that was the case. If you don't understand the technology then you shouldn't comment on it because you are miss leading everyone else who doesn't understand. Dannyface get a clue will you. Just because it’s a hybrid doesn’t make it unreliable. Also hybrid means it uses some gasoline which means the gas motor can take over. And it won’t run out of charge because it regenerates its charge from braking and from the gas motors alternator. The plug-in part means there will be extra battery power that is charged from an outlet. But just because that runs out doesn’t mean the car will simply stop running. Toyota wouldn’t build it if that was the case.
If you don’t understand the technology then you shouldn’t comment on it because you are miss leading everyone else who doesn’t understand.

]]> By: Need4SSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387656 Need4SSpeed Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:34:32 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387656 yeah xyunya, GM was... lol Actually the Lunar Rover program was contracted to Boeing Corporation, but Delco/GM were subcontractors and were also involved in the program. Delco/GM were involved primarily in the electronics, and I think electric/battery powered propulsion system. Google Lunar Rover, and General Motors and a bunch of stuff comes up. yeah xyunya, GM was… lol Actually the Lunar Rover program was contracted to Boeing Corporation, but Delco/GM were subcontractors and were also involved in the program. Delco/GM were involved primarily in the electronics, and I think electric/battery powered propulsion system. Google Lunar Rover, and General Motors and a bunch of stuff comes up.

]]> By: xyunya http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387655 xyunya Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:33:16 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387655 Some people did convert and reported greater mileage then original 44-48 Prius. But, Toyota always questioned reliability of converted cars and dropped warranty as soon as conversion was done. If i would convert my vehicle and loose warranty, I probably would claim greater mileage. Theoretically it is hard to fathom: if you start with 100% charged battery in the morning regardless of how it is charged the battery will get you only as far as "electric juice" can. You need to get larger capacity battery to get range and at current technology it is adding weight. The saving grace will be use of lithium-ion batteries, that have higher energy density. Conversely, they loose charge rapidly in the cold and can blow up in high heat ot sun exposure. Some people did convert and reported greater mileage then original 44-48 Prius. But, Toyota always questioned reliability of converted cars and dropped warranty as soon as conversion was done. If i would convert my vehicle and loose warranty, I probably would claim greater mileage. Theoretically it is hard to fathom: if you start with 100% charged battery in the morning regardless of how it is charged the battery will get you only as far as “electric juice” can. You need to get larger capacity battery to get range and at current technology it is adding weight. The saving grace will be use of lithium-ion batteries, that have higher energy density. Conversely, they loose charge rapidly in the cold and can blow up in high heat ot sun exposure.

]]> By: Fletch http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387654 Fletch Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:27:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387654 I wonder how the GM and Toyota pricepoint on the plug-ins will pan out. Competition is good for the consumer. I wonder how the GM and Toyota pricepoint on the plug-ins will pan out. Competition is good for the consumer.

]]> By: iglesias294 http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387651 iglesias294 Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:18:34 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387651 Don't some people already convert their priuses to plug-ins? What kind of mileage do they get? Even if it's not 100, it sure is worth it because electricity from your wall is loads cheaper than the equivalent in gas. Don’t some people already convert their priuses to plug-ins? What kind of mileage do they get? Even if it’s not 100, it sure is worth it because electricity from your wall is loads cheaper than the equivalent in gas.

]]> By: mayer_ray_nagin http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387650 mayer_ray_nagin Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:15:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387650 So now we can neither expect quality or good mileage from Toyota. So now we can neither expect quality or good mileage from Toyota.

]]> By: xyunya http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387649 xyunya Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:14:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387649 GM was on the moon? GM was on the moon?

]]> By: Z06ified http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387646 Z06ified Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:07:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387646 Toyota is just pissy because GM has a lead over them on the technology. Toyota always becomes a naysayer whenever they are behind on something. One of the many reasons they never got to the moon, and never will. Toyota is just pissy because GM has a lead over them on the technology. Toyota always becomes a naysayer whenever they are behind on something. One of the many reasons they never got to the moon, and never will.

]]> By: DANNYACE http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-exec-warns-public-to-temper-plug-in-hybrid-expectations.html/comment-page-1#comment-387644 DANNYACE Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:59:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7683#comment-387644 get your AAA cards out. i see alot of fucking Tow In's for dumb fucking ppl ( i thought i could make it)With any new thing comes really dumb fucking people that fuck it up (WARNING DO NOT DRIVE ON LOW VOLTAGE) Dealership ppl get ready to drink on lunch on this shit!!!! I cant wait to see all the Bullshit claims. " IT said on the gauge it was ok...... No your just fucking stupid. (can u tell i work at a gm dealership) DA haaaa first!! get your AAA cards out. i see alot of ****ing Tow In’s for
dumb ****ing ppl ( i thought i could make it)With any new
thing comes really dumb ****ing people that **** it up
(WARNING DO NOT DRIVE ON LOW VOLTAGE) Dealership ppl
get ready to drink on lunch on this ****!!!!
I cant wait to see all the Bull**** claims.
” IT said on the gauge it was ok…… No your just
****ing stupid.
(can u tell i work at a gm dealership)
DA
haaaa first!!

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