Back in the day Toyota made cars that were rock-solid reliable and even some that were fun (Celica, Supra, Corolla GTS, MR2…). Now they make boring appliances with increasing Quality Control problems. Five things sell cars:
Economy
Exclusivity
Performance
Reliability
Utility
Toyota no longer stands out in any of these categories; I expect some serious rebates are coming that would make even a GM dealership cringe…

Good

i can’t wait for you guys to argue about this one… should be good. i’m gonna make some popcorn before i come back in an hour or so.

I can almost smell the rebates coming along later this year - and not just from Toyota. I believe the slumping market is hitting the OEMs harder then expected. To counter act these I think we’ll see more rebates (and of larger amounts) offered to help move inventory. The deals may be so good that many will purchase (including me), which could help rebuild confidence with consumers and help us move towards turning around this slump. This could be a great year to buy a new car.

Well tell about great time to buy car to guys working at Toyota and OEM plants. With all the nastiness towards Asian manufacturing factories, folks are loosing the view that it is American workers who build those cars and trucks.

What about the other Americans losing their jobs to japs and chinese? You must be an asian, I bet you drive like crap too. I don’t trust anyone driving that I can blindfold with dental floss.

xyunya, American workers may build those cars and trucks, but the profits still go back to Japan.

HemiRoadRunner, you are an ignorant, racist, redneck jackass.

Thats funny, the mighty one is looking more and more like a bloated out of touch mega-corp.
Its seems like just yesterday Toyota management was bragging about how only the lesser makes needed incentives to move units. And the new Tundra was changing everything.
Atleast they have the Prius to bank on, I guess.

HRR: Thats the best you could do? Id give you props even on a racsist joke, if it was funny. That was just weak.

Wow HemiRoadRunner you just reinforced many people’s veiws of redneck/hick racist americans while trying to push ignorant stereotypes about asians… Congratulations! Maybe if american workers could work long hours of quality work like asians could then there would be more jobs for them. But I guess your too busy watching nascar and drinking bud to actually work “hard”… Maybe if asians wern’t so tired from working 20 hour days and being distracted by the Dale Earnhardt stickers on the back of your Monte Carlo they could take the time to drive better.

In no time at all you’ll be getting the ads on your local TV and radio stations celebrating the ‘incredible selection of new Toyotas available right now’! Nice to see them doing the spinning for a change.

Die Toyota, and CanGo87, who cares.

No wonder they are ahead in sales this year - they are overproducing their SUVs and Trucks, hardly any of which are actually being bought. Toy has gotten really desperate in its hunt for the number one spot. I wish they became #1 too, that way the spotlight will be on them and maybe public opinion will treat Toy and GM fairly

400horsASS everyone else in the world cares. You wonder why americans are so disliked by everyone except themselves? Because of the people like you and Hemi who give them a bad name.

“Toyota stores in the Midwest typically see less vehicles than those dealers on the coasts, but excess volume has allowed these dealerships to get the extra cars they have been asking for years.”

LLN it’s FEWER not less. When are you people going to learn?

too many toyotas
ha ha ha

@HemiRoadRunner are you from the South? You probably don’t think women should work, either. Can i get you another Old Style?

Who cares … there is not one Toyota vehicle that interests me, not one.

Maybe now they will design more attractive and desirable transportation … enough with second-rate aesthetics.

It’s nice to see who the liberal pieces of $H!T are on here. I guess your nerdy senses of humour are different than mine, I’m glad your life is so serious and you spend it on other people’s feelings because you have no responsibility or duties of your own. Hey, but at least you made some “cool” online friends by calling me a redneck and a racist. Why don’t you go to your local ghetto and tell THEM you want to be their friends because you stand up for their rights, I gaurantee you they would have more respect for someone like me than they would for your nerdy “can I devote my life to serving you” @$$. But I’m a redneck that doesn’t have a career right? Yeah, you nailed it, just like I nalied your mother’s.

HeniRetard, walking on all 4 does no constitute 4-wheel-drive. You just genetically predisposed to that modus of transportation. Granted, you probably run fast and can swing from tree to tree, but it ain’t flying boy. And what jobs hillbilly like you possibly could loose? Hanging colored folks on trees? Tying a noose? What a retard can do constructive in in Florida? Changing pis pan for old people in nursing home or sit on alligator eggs till they hatch?

beantown is another typical online retard sterotyping, but don’t let ME sterotype, hypocrital dumb@$$’s. Yeah I’m from the south, FL. And I don’t care if women work or not, I’m not paying your bills dumb@$$, what do I care?

@CanGo87,
You think there is something noble about being a corporate slave and working absurd amounts of overtime for free?

I’m going to enjoy reading the lame excuses someone might dream up for this… Actually, I’ll probably be disappointed because we’ll probably just get barraged with irrelevant links about GM in an effort to change the subject.

Toyota is hell-bent on being the world’s largest auto manufacturer… and as far as I’m concerned - let them, because they’re only doing things to hurt themselves to obtain it.

And as far as any racist comments go… they’re just as unnecessary as comments questioning American’s work ethic… because at last check, Americans still put in longer hours and get less time off than any of their more “enlightened” European counterparts.

Oh **** your totally right that was my intention to make “cool” internet friends. And unlike where you live there are no ghettos around my home becuase people actually give a **** about other peoples lives other then there own and dont let **** like that happen…. while tending to their own duties and responsibilities. I guess you wouldnt know anything about that though as it involves doing 2 things at once… unless you count watching DofH reruns and nailing my mother as you so beautifully put it.

Am surprised at Toyota, what happened to their Intelligence Systems which made predictions on vehicle sales. How about the famous TPS? Well, the Japs will take this lesson and analyse it throughly. I recon it’ll be a long time before they make this mistake again.

I dont think there is anything noble about it but at least they dont bitch about working long hours and then wonder why they are loosing their jobs… and Toyota Japan workers are not “slave workers” who dont get payed for overtime. Im not talking about kids making shoes for 5cents a day.

LMAO

Man, 25 posts in 1 1/2 hours, and we haven’t heard from ‘HeWhoLovesAllThingsJapanese’ yet!

I really don’t like to see any businesses suffer, but given the sheer ugliness of the Turdra and Suckuoia I think Toyota is getting what it deserves on this.

CanGo87, HemiRetard and likes of him are not representative of anything American. There are few Neanderthals living in swamps and remeniscing of past “glory” days. There is no need to fall to their level and assign to the nation characteristics of few. After all, when **** happens it is America who come to the rescue of the world (those who are walking upright).

CanGo: Good job calling people rascists and then spouting off your own rascist unproven statements.
PS: Thanks for doing a survey about what the rest think about us, very informative. I’ll tell everyone here there is no point in being the most philanthropic society in the world (by about two fold). Because apparently everyone hates us.
Check the GNP scores bitch US still out works almost everybody.

I wasnt sayinng that all americans were like Hemi, i was saying the few that are like him and that voice there iggnorant opinions make the rest look bad. I was trying to make it obvious to him that stereotypes work both ways. I clearly knew I was doing it.

Prejudiced yes, but racist?

Hmmm.

I think the term “racist” gets tossed around wayyyyy too easily anymore. The Japanese are not a race, but rather an ethnicity. And “redneck” isn’t a race, it’s a skin condition.

The gross national product(if thats what your trying to get me to look at) means nothing when comparing two countires unless the hourly rates are the same in each. If the average american gets payed more then the average Asian(pick and asian country) per hour then the hours worked wont match up. Also if you have outliers that are making huge profits per year(pick and american billionare or any billionare from any country)the GNP will be skewed away from the average anyways.

Paid, people. PAID! Second grade spelling word.

CanGo87, 20 hours a day?? You must know alot of Asian assmbly line workers to have all those “facts” in place.

well we know CanGo87 isn’t asian, cause even Asian’s can spell paid correctly….
oh wait, was that racist of me to say?

Sorry giys I downt relly wory aboot mi speelling mcuh on interdnet car fourms. But your diversion from the real issue is a nice tactic.

I could care less about your spelling. I just want to know how you are so educated in the Asian workplace? Most Asian countries have zero labor laws.

Oh ya I forgot xyunya, invading countries for no reason and killing thousands of innocent civilians along the way is so helpful, or was it dropping nukes in WW2 that was helpful. Just because the gov helps out for a few hurricanes a year doesnt make america the savior of the world. Im pretty sure the billions of dollars being spent in Iraq each month wouldnt be appreciated by kids starving around the world and killing each other with the leftover weapons from americas past `humanitarian efforts“. And I do realize that the average american doesnt get to make the decisions lead to these things, or cpndone them but pull the cotton from your eyes.

I was talking about Japan in general since this was a response to Hemi talking about them taking away american jobs.

Wow, I can’t believe how an indian joke puts such a thorn in sooooooo many people’s sides. Apparantly, the people that are “offended” don’t work. I’m glad to see you all had so much time to get on here and debate issues like race and everything else while I had drawings I needed to get done at WORK. I guess alot of you don’t have enough drama in your own lives that you look to find it in someone else’s. All the so called “Americans” in here that like the idea of other Americans losing thier jobs and countries like china and india growing stronger and an equal opportunity for everyone, even if they don’t want to work, GO SCREW YOURSELVES! YOU’RE the ones ruining this country, because you think every single person that comes here is entitled to the rights they DEMAND. If you like hanging with the cashier at 7-11, then good for you. I bet your glad that our government is selling out this country from underneath us to the chinese that DON’T pay taxes on the property we lease to them. I could go on, but what’s the use in argueing with a bunch of MORONS that think they know it all. I’ve got things to do, what the hell have you got going on today?

oooooh ahhhh toyota you are the greatest oooh ahhh
toyota SUCKS

Someone commented that American are lazy or don’t work as hard as some other race/nationality. Well, this is simply not true, and anyone that would take the time to reasearch it would find out that US workers are the most productive in the world and provide more “profit per worker” for their employer than any other country. Just because your dumb ass thinks it’s true, don’t forget, you’re an idiot, so it probably isn’t.

how more equal can you get though? Harold and Kumar?? India and Asian together?? can’t get any better than that… oh and, can’t forget Neil Patrick Harris ( NPH ftw )

mayer_ray_nagin, the term racist is used loosely and doesn’t necessarily ground to another word “race.” But technically, you are correct. In the sense of racism, go back and read HRR’s comment. He basically said all Asians are bad drivers because they have slender eyes. Driving skills have nothing to do with the size of the eyes. Making a judgment base purely on a racial characters is racism at worst, generalization at best. Either it is unwarranted and stupid. Subjectively, only HRR knows why he is so bitter. Objectively, that qualifies as racial slur.

Anyway, in the case of Toyota, they need to learn from GM’s failure. You can’t just produce cars and trucks and expect American to buy them.when there are better more reliable products out there that cost less with better warranty and perhaps dealer aftersales services. Their designs have gone weird too! Is selling the most cars more important to making the most profit for your shareholders? Strange!

^^^ Yeah, I said a joke about asian drivers, so what? What’s your problem, you can’t handle a joke because it’s not funny for “everyone”. Give me a break. What are you, the little peacekeeper? Get off your high horse dude.

Oh, it was a joke? Maybe it would help if it was FUNNY!

You dip**** you cant call one graph research. Anyone can find a graph to support their claims hence: http://archives.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/trends/08/30/ilo.study/chart1.jpg

OMG now I am right and your not. Go google image another graph and prove me wrong.

well whoever is defending who on the racist name calling here’s more info, if you use the term “Jap” to describe Japanese people, you are also being “racist” since that word is derogatory- so call them either Asian American or Japanese, so before you you all jump on HRR’s bolas (balls) let’s see if you used the “Jap” term in your posts….

CanGo87, you are twisting factoids a little bit. WWII US did not start. It was attacked by Japan on December 7th. It was the same Japan that received 2 nuclear bombs that killed millions of Asians in Asia (who weren’t Japanese) and practiced genocide against other Asian nations.
As far as invading other nations, I suspect you referring to progressive regime of Saddam Hussein who killed hundreds of thousands of people during his tenure. Perhaps you would like remind us of Korea that was United Nations operation. Vietnam, believe it or not was assistance to South Vietnamese regime. Perhaps it wasn’t quite democratic as German Democratic Republic, but it was less murderous then what happened after US left the geographic theater. During all those operations(wars) US did not benefit geopolitically. No territory was annexed no resources plundered. All wars are horrible and when a surgeon removes cancer, healthy tissue gets destroyed. Unfortunately, this what happens in wars: US is the only military that does not target civilians.

No biggie, CanGo. Poor spelling just bugs me, and it’s a me thing. And I wasn’t just pointing at you, as that word seems to be a difficult one for a lot of people. I’m having a blast reading the posts on this thread, though. But my question is: where is 1115?

Hemiroadrunner,

CLAP CLAP CLAP. Well done on the dental floss joke, circa Dice Clay late 80’s. Do you get all your jokes from fat washed up douchebag jew comedian has-beens? Huh you little faggot?

jumpoffit, so your idea is that if you ever used any derogatory term, you are not allowed to point out someone’s else’s bad racist joke? I bet you are one of those people who have never lied in your life too.

The subject is on HRR’s comment #6 (and he used the word “jap” too), not anyone’s past post. HRR, people have problems with what you said, and no matter how you like to think all these people spent their time on the internet, it doesn’t make you right, so why don’t you take it like a MAN? Oh wait, this is LLN I am on, I can’t expect that since you probably just got your learner’s permit and working on your solar system model for the science fair.

I am not believing this ****, this is funny as ****. A bunch of loser ass geeks got theuir panties in a wad because of the term jap? Yeahm they’re japs, and they attacked our ass, so why should I kiss theirs? I don’t see anybody worrying about deanster saying “jew” guess that’s ok by the hypocrites on here, huh. GO **** YOURSELVES! You don’t bother me, all it does is amuse me every now and then when I check on here at work to see whats up. I hope you all can sleep tonight knowing that someone is using the term “jap”. Go pick something more important to fight for losers. I bet if someone insulted your wives or girlfriends, if you have any faggots, you would take it like a bitch and wouldn’t do ****. But thew first chance you can call someone a racist, you’re all over that ****. Now, who REALLY gives a ****?

It would take another 3 years of economic turmoil for them to reach domestic inventory backlogs.
It could be a lot worse.
DrFill

Toyota should sell a Hybrid Sequia and Land Cruiser Is there any need for the Land Cruiser ? I mean the Sequoia is a full size truck already The LC is for the Range Rover crowd but it should really just come in Lexus form THe 4Runner and GX need a redesign and need hybrid mode

I wonder which car manufacturer does not have huge inventory of large vehicles when there is recession and super inflation at the same time? There is shortage of any trucks on anyones lots?

1115, you wish for hybrid and you may get it. What you don’t know if magnetic field generated by gobbles of electrical current may give you nut cancer. O would stay away from hybrid as far as I could.

Haha 1115, Toy would be a little bit behind if they were to start offering hybrids on these monsters now since GM is already doing it with theirs. Are you actually suggesting that Toy follow GM’s lead?

lol bye bye toy-yoda.

I love how a news post about Toyota’s inventory levels can lead to so much racial slur.

WEKS, you are discriminatory: every post here leads to racial slurs, ignorance, arrogance and insults.

HRR:

Why should anyone get their panties twisted over me using the word “jew?” Why, is “jew” derogatory? “Kike” is, so is “****ing stingy jew,” but not just “jew.”

Anyways, why am I defending myself here against a dumbass like you? **** you and your inbred ancestors.

Well, since we’re on the subject, jap is not a slur, it’s short because I didn’t want to spell out “japanese” Just shows the idiocracy on here. I’m not about to make sure everything I do and say is ok with the rest of the world, and I’m not about to start on LLN. But hey, I don’t really care who I offend. I hope this offends somebody.

Now go give your tug job in the men’s room deanster.

Whaddaya got against inbreds, Deanster. Inbreds are people too and can’t help that they were born with ****ed up genes.

Dude, that is the best they can come up with. They make arguments that make NO real world sense because their opinions are right all the time and everything they say is the fact. These geeks on here live for this $H!T. I think it’s funny, it gives me a break from work a few times a day.

They think that relating people to fing cavemen and whatever **** that doesn’t even exist today makes them look superior to everyone else. They’re a bunch of NERDS and this is how they get their rocks off. “Ewwwwww, I’m smarter than you!” Yeah right, try programming this PLC I’m working on retard.

” What you don’t know if magnetic field generated by gobbles of electrical current may give you nut cancer.”

LOL - tripleonefive doesn’t have any nuts.

autonut..thats about as stupid of comment I have ever heard from you. Go read the cancer warnings at the gas station someday and I would trade electric power for gas anyday…if I could. Plug in hybrids are coming and they will be mainstay in 5 years. Nut cancer…good god!

Why do people have to be so nerdy about these posts. Can’t you see he was just making a joke? Good God is right, about you.

The ape in London zoo programmed PLC very successfully. It was capable of moving bananas between cages and crap in opposite direction. When Miami zoo will demo this chimpanzee on loan from London zoo, HemiRetardRunner will wining about loosing his job to a monkey.

I have to say this most of you on here are entertaining to say the very least. As far as CanGo87 comments he’s being dead accurate and its not just stereotypes of HemiRoadrunner.

The problem we have is that the elitest or rather wealthy in this country they live in a world unto themselves. Their screwing the middle class. And true since I move to the Midwest over 6 years ago I have seen that midwesterners prefer the big 3 automakers here more than any other place in the country. Why Ford, Chyrsler, and lowly GM are here. that’s why.

But the redneck mentality is pervasive.

You have to give hommage for the Quality that Toyota has done you just do. If it were’nt for them the Big 3 would have NEVER Changed- Poor quality and cars that went to almost a 70K and died. But I have to tell each and every one on here.

However, on the flip side of the coin. Once you move up to a much higher tax bracket which most Wealthy have tax accountants to get their resources out of the way. They too prefer imports. Reason their persieved and are exclusive trappings of only the elistest rich. The Rich in this country could care less about buying american. You go to the wealthiest communities in the Country and what do they drive. BMW,Mercedes Benz, Lexu, Audi, Porsche, Ferrarri, and Lamborghini. One they want to be noticed but they are the ones directing most of the money in this country for themselves and no one else. And they could give a rats ass.

Correction FTF… old people buy Lexus’ these days, not necessarily the over-affluent… really rich people don’t buy gussied up Toyotas - and if they do buy a Toyota it’s a Prius so they can pump up their eco-ego while it stays parked behind their Astons, Bentleys, S-Classes, and 7-Series…

To put things in perspective relative to you, just think of where all of the traditional Lincoln buyers went… that would be Lexus.

Likewise with your Cadillac buyers they went to Mercedes Benz, BMW, Lexus. GM flock has been scattered more because they turn ed out far more S*** than did Ford.

But I think Mulally back on the right track for Lincoln. So no I’d be willing to bet that Mulally makes Lincoln better than Lexus or Mercedes.

Toyota has vastly overestimated the number of retards in America.