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		<title>By: Mutant@DCX</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mutant@DCX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sheep heading to slaughter</description>
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		<title>By: Need more oil for GM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Need more oil for GM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lowering worker’s wages has got to be the easiest and most cowardly way of dealing with this problem. If they have so much pride in their product and the workers who make it, then a fitting thank you should not be, “thanks for making us number one, here’s a pay cut”
THE SAD THING is that this will never be reported in the news outside of car enthusiast news. So all the deaf dumb toyota/scion/lexus crowd will continue to mindlessly flock to dealerships and buy their yawnmobiles that will now be made by a new army of slave labor who can barely feed their families. Awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lowering worker’s wages has got to be the easiest and most cowardly way of dealing with this problem. If they have so much pride in their product and the workers who make it, then a fitting thank you should not be, “thanks for making us number one, here’s a pay cut”<br />
THE SAD THING is that this will never be reported in the news outside of car enthusiast news. So all the deaf dumb toyota/scion/lexus crowd will continue to mindlessly flock to dealerships and buy their yawnmobiles that will now be made by a new army of slave labor who can barely feed their families. Awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawnchair88</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawnchair88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lowering worker&#039;s wages has got to be the easiest and most cowardly way of dealing with this problem.  If they have so much pride in their product and the workers who make it, then a fitting thank you should not be, &quot;thanks for making us number one, here&#039;s a pay cut&quot;  
THE SAD THING is that this will never be reported in the news outside of car enthusiast news.  So all the deaf dumb toyota/scion/lexus crowd will continue to mindlessly flock to dealerships and buy their yawnmobiles that will now be made by a new army of slave labor who can barely feed their families.  Awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lowering worker&#8217;s wages has got to be the easiest and most cowardly way of dealing with this problem.  If they have so much pride in their product and the workers who make it, then a fitting thank you should not be, &#8220;thanks for making us number one, here&#8217;s a pay cut&#8221;<br />
THE SAD THING is that this will never be reported in the news outside of car enthusiast news.  So all the deaf dumb toyota/scion/lexus crowd will continue to mindlessly flock to dealerships and buy their yawnmobiles that will now be made by a new army of slave labor who can barely feed their families.  Awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: beemerdude</title>
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		<dc:creator>beemerdude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Need more oil for GM” is a PUT-ON! He’s probably on the floor rolling in laughter…

You guys don’t seem to get that he’s joking. Everything he is saying is “tongue-in-cheek.” And he’s got all of you guys fooled!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Need more oil for GM” is a PUT-ON! He’s probably on the floor rolling in laughter…</p>
<p>You guys don’t seem to get that he’s joking. Everything he is saying is “tongue-in-cheek.” And he’s got all of you guys fooled!</p>
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		<title>By: sj79</title>
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		<dc:creator>sj79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>. And you could also make the argument that toyota cares more about its employees than GM because hey, they’re idling production for 11 days, GM was shutting down plants left and right.&quot;

GM had no choice. As Toyota/Honda hire workers in the south GM is closing plants to compensate for lost marketshare. They didnt lay off employees for fun. I cant believe people who blast the UAW are defending Toyota paying workers 60% of their pay for not working. Its all the same thing. Its  just like the jobs bank. 

Borat:

Union already agreed to pay cuts for new workers, increases in healthcare contributions and the ending of pensions for new workers. GM has is going to save $3B a year due to negiotiated changes with the union. By 2010 new hires at the Big 3 will make less than hires working for Toyota/Honda in the US. Get your facts straight. The stuff they do in Japan would be hated by anti-UAW people if it were done here. Lifetime employment? Even the UAw doesnt get that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. And you could also make the argument that toyota cares more about its employees than GM because hey, they’re idling production for 11 days, GM was shutting down plants left and right.&#8221;</p>
<p>GM had no choice. As Toyota/Honda hire workers in the south GM is closing plants to compensate for lost marketshare. They didnt lay off employees for fun. I cant believe people who blast the UAW are defending Toyota paying workers 60% of their pay for not working. Its all the same thing. Its  just like the jobs bank. </p>
<p>Borat:</p>
<p>Union already agreed to pay cuts for new workers, increases in healthcare contributions and the ending of pensions for new workers. GM has is going to save $3B a year due to negiotiated changes with the union. By 2010 new hires at the Big 3 will make less than hires working for Toyota/Honda in the US. Get your facts straight. The stuff they do in Japan would be hated by anti-UAW people if it were done here. Lifetime employment? Even the UAw doesnt get that.</p>
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		<title>By: hummah</title>
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		<dc:creator>hummah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I might have to inflict some severe trauma to my head with a blunt object in order to understand what &quot;Need more oil for GM&quot; is talking about.

It sounds like the pay cut is only for the days that the plants are closing, then they go back to full pay.  So the workers will get at least 60% of thier regular salary for staying home and relaxing during the shutdown.  I could use a week of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I might have to inflict some severe trauma to my head with a blunt object in order to understand what &#8220;Need more oil for GM&#8221; is talking about.</p>
<p>It sounds like the pay cut is only for the days that the plants are closing, then they go back to full pay.  So the workers will get at least 60% of thier regular salary for staying home and relaxing during the shutdown.  I could use a week of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Need more oil for GM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Need more oil for GM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe that was Honda. 

WMB (Weapons of Mass Boredom)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe that was Honda. </p>
<p>WMB (Weapons of Mass Boredom)</p>
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		<title>By: Need more oil for GM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Need more oil for GM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t George Bush plan an attack on a half dozen Toyota plants for being a suspected terrorist training sites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t George Bush plan an attack on a half dozen Toyota plants for being a suspected terrorist training sites?</p>
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		<title>By: moparsalesman</title>
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		<dc:creator>moparsalesman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dante 

im with you it is getting messy out there. people need to get of their butts and buy cars. it doesnt matter what they buy as long as this economy gets stimulated somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dante </p>
<p>im with you it is getting messy out there. people need to get of their butts and buy cars. it doesnt matter what they buy as long as this economy gets stimulated somehow.</p>
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		<title>By: Borat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Borat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toyota achieved something that neither of domestics ever could: negotiate with its own employees for the good of shareholders and corporation. Our management and employees are absolutely sure that they work for themselves. As a result GM management and unions bankrupt shareholders and working on the rest of population of US. 
Eventually they&#039;ll be footnote in history, they already the main chapter of every management book. Chapter titled &quot;How to screw up effectively&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toyota achieved something that neither of domestics ever could: negotiate with its own employees for the good of shareholders and corporation. Our management and employees are absolutely sure that they work for themselves. As a result GM management and unions bankrupt shareholders and working on the rest of population of US.<br />
Eventually they&#8217;ll be footnote in history, they already the main chapter of every management book. Chapter titled &#8220;How to screw up effectively&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: yarddog82abn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yarddog82abn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL.... One UAW worker makes what 5 Japanese assembly plant worker makes, soon it will be one to seven ratio...

Toyota heads: We are giving you all pay cuts!

Japanese worker: Yes master...

Toyota heads: HA-HA-HA-HA....... That&#039;s why we don&#039;t have Unions... As long as American&#039;s keep buying our cars we will be O.K. unlike their auto company&#039;s... HA-HA-HA-HA......

Another Toyota head: Heck some of their union members buy our cars! HA-HA-HA-HA....

And we all know this is what is going on over in Japan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230;. One UAW worker makes what 5 Japanese assembly plant worker makes, soon it will be one to seven ratio&#8230;</p>
<p>Toyota heads: We are giving you all pay cuts!</p>
<p>Japanese worker: Yes master&#8230;</p>
<p>Toyota heads: HA-HA-HA-HA&#8230;&#8230;. That&#8217;s why we don&#8217;t have Unions&#8230; As long as American&#8217;s keep buying our cars we will be O.K. unlike their auto company&#8217;s&#8230; HA-HA-HA-HA&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Another Toyota head: Heck some of their union members buy our cars! HA-HA-HA-HA&#8230;.</p>
<p>And we all know this is what is going on over in Japan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dante_JoseCuervo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dante_JoseCuervo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>moparsalesman

There&#039;s no doubt about that. I&#039;m not saying that Toyota is like this invincible company, in this economic slump it&#039;s just not possible. All I was saying is that you have to give them credit for doing as well as they have - albeit &quot;well&quot; is somewhat of a relative term - despite the circumstances. As for where things are going to go I&#039;m guessing EVERYONE is gonna be hurting really bad. I just hope everyone can make it out ok. I mean after all, without all those companies there&#039;s no competition, and without competition the products really won&#039;t improve that much, which will result in mediocre quality. So let&#039;s just hope everyone can make it out either through their own devices or through some sort of help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moparsalesman</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no doubt about that. I&#8217;m not saying that Toyota is like this invincible company, in this economic slump it&#8217;s just not possible. All I was saying is that you have to give them credit for doing as well as they have &#8211; albeit &#8220;well&#8221; is somewhat of a relative term &#8211; despite the circumstances. As for where things are going to go I&#8217;m guessing EVERYONE is gonna be hurting really bad. I just hope everyone can make it out ok. I mean after all, without all those companies there&#8217;s no competition, and without competition the products really won&#8217;t improve that much, which will result in mediocre quality. So let&#8217;s just hope everyone can make it out either through their own devices or through some sort of help.</p>
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		<title>By: moparsalesman</title>
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		<dc:creator>moparsalesman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh what was that someone was saying that we pay our uaw workers too much and other foreign companies dont have the same problems?????

@ dante you watch everything domestic automakers have gone throug foreign is following suit. didnt they already shut down a prius plant that was under construction? there IS more to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh what was that someone was saying that we pay our uaw workers too much and other foreign companies dont have the same problems?????</p>
<p>@ dante you watch everything domestic automakers have gone throug foreign is following suit. didnt they already shut down a prius plant that was under construction? there IS more to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Dante_JoseCuervo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dante_JoseCuervo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mayer_ray_nagin, I agree. And you could also make the argument that toyota cares more about its employees than GM because hey, they&#039;re idling production for 11 days, GM was shutting down plants left and right. That, and toyota is simply lowering their pay to compensate for this economic downturn rather than just laying people off all over the place. At least toyota&#039;s still keeping their employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mayer_ray_nagin, I agree. And you could also make the argument that toyota cares more about its employees than GM because hey, they&#8217;re idling production for 11 days, GM was shutting down plants left and right. That, and toyota is simply lowering their pay to compensate for this economic downturn rather than just laying people off all over the place. At least toyota&#8217;s still keeping their employees.</p>
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		<title>By: mayer_ray_nagin</title>
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		<dc:creator>mayer_ray_nagin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no company that actually cares about its employees and wants what&#039;s in their best interest, NMOGM.  It&#039;s up to each and every one of us to care for himself and pursue his own best interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no company that actually cares about its employees and wants what&#8217;s in their best interest, NMOGM.  It&#8217;s up to each and every one of us to care for himself and pursue his own best interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Need more oil for GM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Need more oil for GM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe these people should come work for a company that actually cares about its employees and wants whats in their best interest. 

Nevermind, GM doesn&#039;t hire terrorists</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe these people should come work for a company that actually cares about its employees and wants whats in their best interest. </p>
<p>Nevermind, GM doesn&#8217;t hire terrorists</p>
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