if toyotadishonormyfamily == 1
throttle = 100;
cruiselight = 1;
transmission = drive;
pause(forever);
end

or maybe toyota, for their adaptive cruise control, wants to use airbag sensors instead of radar to detect vehicles in front?

Buy GM. It is your patriotic obligation

as far as liability goes, that’s a much tougher question…was the system designed by toyota engineers? (i would guess so)…i don’t think they could just pass this off to a part supplier…and even if they tried to do that, the fact they knew about this problem years ago – yet did nothing to address it – may leave them open to a bigger liability problem…

if you design a product and it hurts people due to a bad part, well then that’s on the part supplier…but if you know about the problem, yet continue to use that bad part, then the liability shifts more to you…

i’m no lawyer, but the “blame” (obviously unproven legally thus far) could fall on the faulty design side of things, and also the cover up…

but one thing i do for a living is analyze data and look for trends…and 19 deaths for one company, compared to 11 for all other companies combined, is suspicious…note i use the word suspicious instead of conclusive because i don’t have all the facts…but the facts i do have hint at something bad going on…

on your second point, you are just making assumptions…you are assuming drive by wire is just as safe…the numbers in front of you, though, are telling you that a 2000 lexus with a mechanical linkage is safer than a 2001 lexus with a drive by wire system with respect to unintended acceleration…

don’t read any emotion into my statements at all, i don’t have a dog in this fight with respect to toyota’s reputation, but i am very interested in the data…what are the numbers, and what do they say…

@RaineMan, you have an HHR, not a Toyota or a Lexus. I’m sure the fail safe systems are very different in each vehicle. Heck, my 2000 PT Cruiser would redline in neutral, while my mother-in-law’s 2002 PT Cruiser limits at 5,500 rpm. My Quest will redline as well. As Broadrun96 mentioned above (quite a ways up, so do a find for “lock out”), there is an interlock in the Lexus that prevents you from shifting into neutral while revving the engine, most likely their fail safe method preventing engine failure. My Quest will easily slide into neutral while at WOT, but I don’t doubt Toyota or Lexus has something to prevent the same thing from happening in their vehicles. After all, they do have a reputation to protect, and blown engines certainly would tarnish that reputation…

What happened, can’t you face the facts ? Or is your lexus dealer having you drive around to the all the local Home Depot’s to find zip ties? To bad dr.philledwithcrap can’t get himself to post on his beloved toyota’s that are killing people all over the world.

volo —

I agree although it would still be bad for Toyota because the sheeple wouldn’t care about the supplier. All they would think about is Toyota having bad quality.

Traslation –

ktulu to English

Sue Toyota for poor quality
VW>GM>Toyota
If they were smart, they wouldn’t be Toyota owners

By the way, notice that the so-called “faux Dr” has had his license and nuts revoked! Boy, they say rat holes can be so dark and lonesome! Better for you sheggar!

Second thing, Drive by wire is nor safer neither more dangerous than its mechanical counterpart. wire getting loose or getting stuck are also possible scenarios, what does it changes from drive by wire?.

19 toyota deaths/20,000,000 cars vs 11 deaths in other makes/80,000,000 cars

using a Fisher’s exact test, you get a statistically significant enrichment for deaths in toyotas (p-value less than 2.8e-7)…the Fisher’s exact test may not be the absolute best one to use for such small ratios, but i’m going to stick by my conclusion…this is happening more often in toyotas than all other brands put together, which is suspicious…

how is that subjective again?

concerning other manufacturers, here are your stats: “In a written statement, the NHTSA said its records show that a total of 15 people died in crashes related to possible sudden acceleration in Toyota vehicles from the 2002 model year and newer, compared with 11 such deaths in vehicles made by all other automakers.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-fi-toyota-recall8-2009nov08,0,6120294.story

perhaps if you read the article and learned a bit more, my statements wouldn’t be so aggravating to you…

The drive by wire accelerator switch may be a simple pressure switch, but what tells the engine to accelerate is in no way simple. It is computer programing that looks at dozens of signals that actually operates the engine throttle. There is some kind of programing bug that is causing the cars to go to WOT and then hold there despite driver inputs that should stop the car. The computer is making the decision on what is happening with the car, not the driver.
In regards to switching it into neutral, there are reports of the engine in some cases not being allowed to go into neutral and others shifting back into drive because they thought the engine was going to explode it was reving so high.

I have a family member with first hand experience with this problem and know it to be real.

Secondly, it is now becoming obvious that Toyota has a real problem with its drive by wire system. People who are arm chair quarterbacking drivers in unintentional acceleration situations are missing the point. A 260HP car going to wife open throttle randomly is dangerous no matter how good of a driver you are. Sure, you should find a way to stop the car and keep it from reaching triple digit speeds, but even doing everything right, you may not be able to avoid plowing into the kids crossing the street right in front of you.

People with these cars did not pay for an vehicle that is at its core unsafe.

Toyota desperatly needs to fix this before they lose all consumer confidance.

I just somehow doubt the drive-by-wire is to blame here. With drive-by-wire the gas pedal is just a pressure switch, one that can be overridden by the computer at any time by a traction control module, or if cruise control is on.

Many manufacturers have been using drive-by-wire for years on a large number of vehicles. Honda, Chevy, Ford, Toyota, BMW, etc. I really think if there were a legitimate problem it would be more apparent by now.

to blame it all on stupid drivers, though, is ridiculous…the statistics alone prove that…if there was no issue with the car, these events wouldn’t have increased in frequency since 2001…

There is an interlock to keep the driver from inadvertently shifting into reverse or park while the vehicle is moving at speed… but no such thing for neutral.

GO FORD!!!!!

Need more oil for GM,
Only reply to my post if you agree that you are an absolute idiot, blind patriotism follower, moron, imbecile, and…last but not least…BOB LUTZ!!

GM. AN American Revolution

Toyota has contract with GM parts also, if this happen to Toyota it can also happen in GM. Most of the engine in Toyota vehicle was the same as what’s in the GM, and yet, this can happen to any company unfortunelly this time is Toyota.

American vehicle may last longer then Japanese vehicle, the reason is parts. Japanese auto use the parts that most time only last 30K miles some time early then that, plus it change so offen the parts are cheap cause they made so many for replacement and that’s how they made money.

I love blind patriotism to a certain company/corporation. It just makes you look more like a pathetic loser than anything else.

Keep sucking on that corporate cock, you douche. You would do well as Bob Lutz’s sex slave.

THis is GM Country. An American Revolution

To keep things clear, I am not against holding any company accountable…esp the Big 3. I am a supporter of anything American. I am not in favor of blind loyalty with any company. Cars and trucks should be judged by their quality, reliablity, safety & value. The past is over. It is important for all Americans to at least give the domestic car companys a fair chance & consider their products. American autos are some of the highest rated in the industry & moving forward. Toyota has done a good job but it seems their main goal was to be #1 & they lost their edge on quality. They also have shown their poor integrity as far as owning up to the problem when they have known about it for years. Now, people are dead because of their lack of backbone.
Integrity is what you do when no one is looking. I know what Toyota did………nothing because they would have been embarrased & financially hurt.

To all you Toyota owners: Just remember to put your car in neutral & turn it off when, not if, the dreaded sudden acceleration problem surfaces in your car. Until then, have a nice trip!
Perhaps the next quick fix Toyota comes up with will be a disclaimer to adhere to your shifter handle: “In case of sudden unintended acceleration, shift to Neutral, turn off ignition and pray”

Be American. Buy American. buy GM. An American Revolution

May the best car win

Christ, I am a GM fan, and stick with GM, but he is nauseating. I skip over his damn posts, but it is a huge waste on your servers.

Again, BLOCK HIM AND HIS IP ADDRESS ALREADY!!!!! And while you’re at it, get rid of his clones too!

Btw, NMOFGM, GM doesn’t even use that damn tagline anymore, in fact it’s been almost 3 years. Like ajm11 said, you are an idiot with no imagination.

GM. AN American Revolution