Comments on: Toyota recalls 1.3 million Yaris vehicles worldwide

By: Ski

Ski — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:53:10 +0000

sj79,
I hate to break the news to you but you haven’t got your facts our head straight. The culture I witnessed was on TV one of denial. There are three questions you need to ask when dealing with the Japanese auto people. 1st, do you understand me? 2nd, do you agree with my statement? 3rd Will you agree to take responsibility for this issue? When answered honestly, you’ll have reason not to doubt them, ever.
The 8D procedure which should have been the topic of conversation at those hearing. Every senior quality engineer works to it and is the way to arrive at the root cause, containment, “Poka-yoke is Japanese for mistake-proofing”, or commonly known as error proofing and irreversible corrective action. None of those congressman was worth their salt when it came to asking the questions and Mr. Toyoda evaded the clear and undeniable question.
Any time you guys want to discuss quality, I would be more than happy to have an adult conversation. It’s a funny thing about life; if you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it. Thanks for hitting my hot button. I thought it was out of order.

Ski

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:32:38 +0000

Last thing Toyota needs when pint-sized cars are hot

By: jayjc08

jayjc08 — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:53:28 +0000

Maybe they’ve been using goblin goo for their insulation…

By: Zcarsales

Zcarsales — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:32:54 +0000

RaineMan, have ever seen a shirt after crash with a seat belt? I received first degree burns from my seatbelt, as a passenger, in a 50mph collision with a 10 inch high curb. The police officer was chiding me for not wearing my seatbelt because the windshield was dimpled from my elbow flying into it. She shut up when I pulled up my shirt.

Yes, the threat of fire is real.

By: oldraven

oldraven — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:35:15 +0000

I’m pretty sure sj79′s comment is dripping with sarcasm.

By: RaineMan

RaineMan — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:34:24 +0000

I just want to know how a seatbelt causes a fire and how they found this out… it’s not something you’d even think of.

By: McLovin1005

McLovin1005 — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:07:54 +0000

sj79…you make me wanna puke. why don’t you just pack up all your stuff and move to japan if you love them so much.

By: HalGameGuru

HalGameGuru — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:55:46 +0000

thats not the only reason they are being recalled, the recall also fixes an issue with the exhaust system that can cause an EGR like line to fail and leak exhaust before getting to the cat possibly infiltrating the cabin. The seatbelt was part one of a double whammy recall for those vehicles.

By: injunraiv

injunraiv — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:46:44 +0000

I wonder if some of these posts are sarcastic or intentional? elviososa, are you kidding me? FINT))APX3?

By: yarddog82abn

yarddog82abn — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:43:00 +0000

LOL… TOYS….

By: elviososa

elviososa — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:17:06 +0000

Oh well….when the big three have the same problem, they will just say it’s normal when the car crash. The fire is actually make sure you will burn to death and that you will not suffer in the hospital, your family can get the money, and the big three will not be responsible because you crash the car. So…everybody is happy.

By: Thunder Chicken

Thunder Chicken — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:54:59 +0000

I’d imagine the fire comes from the seat belt tensioner. Most cars have an explosive charge in their seat belt mechanism that reels the belt in and tightens it up during a crash. Think of it as a mini air bag. Most cars also have structural foam in the B-pillar area to provide some cushioning during a side impact. In the Yaris it appears the two components simply aren’t located properly in relation to each other.

By: sj79

sj79 — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:07:47 +0000

remember folks, when Toyota announces a recall its a positive thing. They are only doing this because they love their customers and want them to be safe. When GM or Ford has a recall its proof that they were trying to hide something and had nothing but disdain for their poor customers. I know nothing in the recall announcement makes any of that clear but you have to trust me on this one. Toyota didnt actually make a mistake here.

By: oldraven

oldraven — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:58:32 +0000

jkasch1, suppliers don’t design parts, they manufacture them.

By: oldraven

oldraven — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:25:29 +0000

A Toyota catching fire? Must have been a part sourced from GM. *sarcasm*

By: jdasch1

jdasch1 — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:20:55 +0000

As much as I dislike Toyota because of my history with them….this is a supplier recall. So Toyota told them to reduce the cost of this component, and now it catches on fire. I wonder which country in the world its manufactured in?? OH well….just another day at the great Toyota.

By: 1c3d0g

1c3d0g — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:27:15 +0000

My…my…another day, another recall by an import. I distinctly remember a few loudmouths saying that only Domestics recalled their vehicles. It seems they’re proven wrong once again by this latest fact.

By: beatusmongous

beatusmongous — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:38:44 +0000

TripleOneFive will just chime in here to say that he likes Honda, not Toyota.

By: winnipegjets

winnipegjets — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:30:22 +0000

toyotas and fires… the two dont mix

By: Borat

Borat — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:56:27 +0000

It is nice to see convergence of mind between used car salesmen: if you don’t drive piece of crap I sell you – you deserve to die.

By: idrinorbarsaku

idrinorbarsaku — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:53:23 +0000

i have one thing to say about this, FNCK YARIS!!!!!!

By: valenburg

valenburg — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:47:29 +0000

its probably a sensor in the bumper or something and it’s surrounded by foam, when a collision occurs a spark or malfunction of the sensor sets the foam on fire or, ignites it.

By: beemerdude

beemerdude — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:46:42 +0000

swamp donkey/zeeck…

MSN Autos’ story on this said the gas propellent that causes the seat belts to contract in a crash can spark them.

LLN: Since when is ‘seat belt’ one word?

By: moparsalesman

moparsalesman — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:46:13 +0000

if you buy one of these hunks of crap you do deserve to die in a crash

By: mayer_ray_nagin

mayer_ray_nagin — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:39:00 +0000

No mods. An iggy feature would be good, but NO MODS.

By: Andre Neves

Andre Neves — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:15:37 +0000

Need more oil for GM
“ANyone who drives one of these deserves to die”

Wow, how old are you?
Another reason LLN should be moderated. It’s getting out of hand. Makes you NOT want to post anything.
LLN, if you guys need moderators, I’m up for it.

By: zeeck

zeeck — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:05:22 +0000

i assume it causes a large amount of friction therefore heat, causing it to ignite because it’s probably flammable, that’s my theory at least. Or maybe the metal connectors cause a spark when slammed together…

By: swamp donkey

swamp donkey — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:59:26 +0000

“…the defective seatbelt unit could cause a foam pad to ignite.”

How could a defective or none defective seatbelt foam pad ignite?
Jap made or American made, how is this even possible? I’m just curious.

By: zeeck

zeeck — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:54:04 +0000

seriously people, what is your deal against the japanese? they make a better quality product, get over it.
and the reason the found this is because, Surprise!, the keep testing the vehicle after they sell it for long-term problems or strange possible mishaps.
And like others said, at least they actually tell people about the problems, and they aren’t usually deadly, so so get off your high horse and look at it the way it is

By: trantz

trantz — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:33:19 +0000

(Imitating “Car 54″ theme)

TRIPLEONE FIVE WHERE AAAAARE YOU?

hehehe, this pleases me

By: mayer_ray_nagin

mayer_ray_nagin — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:31:03 +0000

Borat … Geo Prizm?

By: Dr.Martens

Dr.Martens — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:30:13 +0000

toyota…….figures
thier crap is assembled by japanese people workin 10 cents an hour

no wonder they have so many recalls

By: Borat

Borat — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:15:12 +0000

Good answer, but Toyota still collects cash for what they sell and recall, vs. not sell whatsoever.

Frankly, I drive one vehicle built by Toyota and sold by GM and think I would be better off with Honda.

By: Bubs Solo

Bubs Solo — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:57:56 +0000

Do you think GM will sell as much as Toyota will recall?

Considering that over the past three years Toyota has recalled 6 times the amount of vehicles it sold and 2009 has over 1.3 million recalls to date I think the answer is simple. Noooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!

By: Borat

Borat — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:37:27 +0000

On the second thought, Toyota is helping mother nature: survival of the fittest. If you can only afford Yaris…
Ford and Chevy were doing the same services with their entry levels in 70-80′s.

By: Borat

Borat — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:35:25 +0000

Well, it is a sign of a company that sell cars. Do you think GM will sell as much as Toyota will recall?

By: mayer_ray_nagin

mayer_ray_nagin — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:18:59 +0000

Two things:
….. 1) these are Made In Japan so no “blame Americans” there.
…… 2) nobody driving this in an extreme front end crash expects to survive.

I think if I bought one of these, I would look for a brick wall to run into at full throttle and kill myself.

By: Bubs Solo

Bubs Solo — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:17:20 +0000

Yeah it was that killer resale value that they used to have. Oh, and the reliability that the older model used to have but the new ones don’t.

By: JakeK66

JakeK66 — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:15:34 +0000

No JohnnyC,

They are going to be like the New York Yankees or New England Partriots of recalls – or for the Canucks up there- the Edmonton Eskimos or Montreal Canadiens of recalls.

By: Fx NauGhtY

Fx NauGhtY — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:15:12 +0000

apparently the least amount of cars you make and sold is most likely to have to fewest recall..
and ford mercury happen the be on the top for fewest recall

By: CADDY-V

CADDY-V — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:15:08 +0000

Something had to be reported or how did they find out about the problem?
Also does anyone know how many recalls that gives them in the past year?

By: F3INT))AP3X

F3INT))AP3X — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:12:25 +0000

At least they did what they usually do which is recall it before a single incident has been reported.

By: injunraiv

injunraiv — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:10:35 +0000

Wow, it will be refreshing to hear 1115s take on this. I’m sure there’s still a reason why Japs make better cars than us…

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:56:51 +0000

I remember seeing an article earlier this month regarding recalls. I don’t remember the exact numbers but Toyota did lead the league last year. Looks like they are well on their way to repeating. Is dynasty too strong a word?

By: 400horseSS

400horseSS — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:54:38 +0000

Holy Sh*t, Toyota with another recall. er vehicle betterment program.