Was anyone hurt like in the GM recalls ???
and is Toyota at the 3 million plus mark yet (if you add all the GM recalls up that I posted) ?
No but a defective third row seatbelt is pretty dangerous considering there is so much room in that thrid row.

This recall doesn’t count either, right?

No it counts I dont recall saying it doesnt
Read what I posted
Its just not nearly as severe as the GM recalls where people are getting injured. Also why can Toyota catch a problem quickly and it takes GM years to do and after people have been hurt
Answer me that Mr Pontiac man

Look at the post times, maybe you’d figure out that I wasn’t replying to you.

Oh, and I can answer that. The answer is you’re wrong again. Your question is baseless and inconsistent with the facts. Therefore arguing with you over it is a waste of time.

1115 is wrong again. Gosh, who would have thunk it?

Hahaha 1115, you are trying to explain away a recall by saying that there is not a lot of room in the third row so it is okay to have the seatbelts not work because the babies and little children will just slam up against the second row which is close so they won’t get hurt THAT bad. You said:

“No but a defective third row seatbelt is pretty dangerous considering there is so much room in that thrid row.”

THAT’S YOUR EXCUSE?? You’re pathetic. I can’t even imagine what you would say is the Acadia’s third row restraints did not work. You would crucify GM for being “unsafe”. Just accept that Toy quality is falling, and falling fast.

Cant think of an answer huh Injuraiv lol Typical Who else were you talking to ???
I never explained away a recall I said its dangerous but not as dangerous as the MILLIONS of GM recalls that were recalled late and people were actually injured You saw the links

No, your question made the assertation that Toyota can somehow catch a recall situation quickly and it takes GM years to do the same. I think if you were to look again, you’d see that Toyota doesn’t recall any quicker than anyone else, their customer service is basically no different, and the quality of their vehicles is more suspect than you’ve been spouting off about. but guess what? No one takes your blathering seriously, and I’m not into arguing with a fool today.

Later.

I wonder what it will take for toyota’s owner blindness to wear off. Will the cars have to burst into flames while at the same time stealing you identity for people to no longer fall face first into them? Even with mounting recalls or warranty ammendments every person who has one still says they are the right hand of christ. I love it. Wait until their resale falls because of rebates and dealer discounts.

WHAT!!!! Toyota is recalling something?? Funny this is the first I’ve heard of it. Usually if it were Ford, GM or Chrysler it would be ALLLLLLLL over the news! What do ya know about that?

Dont have an answer for me huh
Stumped are you ?

My GOD!!! The infallible Toy Ota has a major recall! Oh noes! How are they going to spin this one? “Hey, your baby might die, but you can just make another one.” LMAO…

I can’t even imagine what you would say is the Acadia’s third row restraints did not work. You would crucify GM for being “unsafe”
GM is ALREADY proven unsafe so I would say the same thing I say when I see a recall from them. Its to be expected from GM bc they have a history of recalls and poor build quality.
It would just be another one of the MILLIONS of recalls
No big deal I dont exxagerate recalls like you bc I dont have to You seem to only pop up now when there is a Japanese recall You are hard to find when the domestics do their normal routine
Funny

Wow, 115.. So you spin a negative story about Toyota into an opportunity to do some GM bashing. Classic. You should get into politics.

If anyone at any time tried to secure child seat in the third seat of Highlander they would start legal actions against Toyota for cruel and unusual punishment. You have to be a troll to do anything there in the first place. I personally think Toyota is fixing non-existing problem, but Toyota management knows what they doing better then I am.
1115, Toyota has the best legal minds working on their payroll: I don’t think they need your advocacy, chill out. I am stack in a meeting, but if I could I would get away from laptop and catch some fresh air.

Should anyone expect anything different from tripleonedouche… he’s already proven to be a hypocrite and a liar. Here we have ANOTHER recall from the mighty Toyota, but this time on a defect that could prove to be highly dangerous to CHILDREN of all people… and what’s the excuse?? “Oh.. they’re dangerous, but not as dangerous as GM.”

TYPICAL BS FROM A TYPICAL LYING HYPOCRITE!

Why is it that the merit of every Japanese recall is weighed against domestic recalls from 5-15 years ago?? It’s all a matter of BS semantics… by someone’s own logic – If GM has PROVEN to be unsafe, then Toy-o is PROVING to be unsafe now.

All of this is the conjectured opinion of one pathetic little person and can’t be proven just because they say so… you know, just like the existence of an Acura CL with a failed transmission at 42K.

Im not defending Toyota in any way That third row defective seatbelt is dangerous and the babyseat can slip out and fly all over the place due to the amount of room back there
If I hadnt posted first all the patriots who are mad that Toyota and Honda make better quality cars then the domestics would get all excited and cream their pants and say where is 1115?
Unlike some posters Im in all the threads not just the ones that are convienient for me. No Toyota doesnt need me just as I dont need them and Im chill ask injuraiv and commo how “chill” they are lol

1115 you do exagerate alot of stuff… I’ve only been on this site for a short time and I can already see that.

CL with a failed tranny ? Prove it Still whining
Unlike you I dont go on Caddy website listing all my owned cars.
You wouldnt be in the 3 rd row of a Toyota anyway so why are you whining like a CHIL? oh the children
The GM recalls are from what years ?? How many people were injured and why have you never addressed that ?
I showed you recalls from up to 2007 and GM caught them late and people where injured Show me where the CHILDREN where injured in this recall Ooops you cant just like you cant prove Gm is worthy of being x shopped
You lose again lol

Women don’t read or listen to this kind of auto news. Since women buy the bulk of Toys products-it is up to us…the husbands, fathers, brothers and friends of these women to inform them about Toys crumbling, piece of ****s. So go out and do our duty.

I thought they bought Minis

AMGoff, actually both CL & TL had defective trannies, but Acura contained problem with aplomb. I brought in my mother’s TL, drove back loaner, put almost 400 mi on loaner in a day and exchanged cars in the evening. In addition, Acura provide full maintenance (oil, filter, etc), washed car, replaced wiper blades and filled car with gas during test dive. I did not bother filling loaner and felt guilty afterwards. They even found glove under seat, my mother considered lost. I call it luxury service.

Toyota keeps driving massive recall after massive recall right up 1115’s ass, but it’s gaping so big after his daddy’s fist that the poor burger-flipper doesn’t notice.

xyunya…

the CL comment was only made to highlight a blatant lie told by tripleonefag… He went on two other sites claiming to have owned a CL (and a TL actually), one of which he talked about the failed transmission. Then after I brought that up on here after getting tired of him constantly crying and screaming about Hondas superior reliability, he tried to say he didn’t post those and that he never owned one. So he’s either outright lying here and is also a hypocrite or he was lying there and is just a worthless liar. Ever since, he’s been doing his best to avoid all of that and his posts have devolved into gibberish.

Im flatered that you think that much about me to look me up but I think I know the cars that Ive owned and you dont
If you can prove that my hands typed every response then I suggest you do that. I also told you that you need to stop whining and stay on this site bc its only going to cause trouble
Sorry Im taking up so much of your time This is fun though. Oh GMs are unreliable and dangerous (I can see you wsniffling and having your mom cuddle you saying “Its alright lol”

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2002/cadillac/seville/recalls/
Tsk tsk
NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 03V238000 – Hide Details
Recall Date: 07/01/2003
Component: 2002 CADILLAC SEVILLE FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:STORAGE:TANK ASSEMBLY
Potential Units Affected: 102212
2002 CADILLAC SEVILLE FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:STORAGE:TANK ASSEMBLY
Recall Date: 07/01/2003

Summary:
ON CERTAIN CADILLAC DEVILLE AND SEVILLE PASSENGER VEHICLES, FUNERAL COACHES, AND LIMOUSINES EQUIPPED WITH A V8 (4.6L) ENGINE, OLDSMOBILE AURORA PASSENGER VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A V8 (4.0L ) ENGINE, AND PONTIAC BONNEVILLE SSEI PASSENGER VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A SUPERCHARGED V6 (3.8L) ENGINE, THE FUEL TANK PRESSURE SENSORS ARE UNUSUALLY SUSCEPTIBLE TO MALFUNCTIONS. IF THE SENSOR MALFUNCTIONS, EXCESSIVE VACUUM CAN BE APPLIED DURING SELF-DIAGNOSTIC TESTING.

Consequence:
FUEL SYSTEM COMPONENTS CAN BE DAMAGED AND FUEL CAN LEAK FROM THE VEHICLE WHEN IT IS REFUELED. FUEL LEAKAGE IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE CAN RESULT IN A FIRE.

Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE FUEL TANK PRESSURE SENSOR. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN ON OCTOBER 17, 2003. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT CADILLAC AT 1-866-982-2339; OLDSMOBILE AT 1-800-630-6537; OR PONTIAC AT 1-800-620-7668.

Potential Units Affected: 102212

111Appliance lover, Get a life. No one cares about your charts and quotes. Quit reciting mags verbatum.

I’m beginning to wonder what 1115 is missing in his life to seem to WANT this kind of abuse heaped upon him. Didn’t your mom want to breastfeed you? Or maybe she only liked you as a friend…

111Appliance OK not as good as the jjt or amg ones but A for effort
Well the personal attacts are fun but you have to resort to them because none of you cant prove that Gm is worth a buyers attention ??
Wow I have a used Pontiac dealer/The Office lover attacking me lol and asking what IM missing lol
How it going selling all those Aztecs and G5’s oh maybe the Torrent is the best seller. The GTO wasnt a bad car but ask GM why they screwed the first buyers by putting a stronger engine with 50 more hp in the second year ? Sloppy GM

BTW 1115, your post proved you are wrong (again). If the recall date is 7/2003, how can you say “…it takes GM years…”

But I said I wasn’t in an arguing mood… LOL

Look at the other links I have posted in the Opel insignia and the Buick Invicta threads I will be happy to send them to you. That was to let AMG know one of his many cars are POS’s that can catch on fire

No matter what when you say it was from years ago you are wrong bc they are recent recalls on cars from the past 5 years and recalls on newer models. Either way you lose
The only mood your in is to sell great used Pontiacs You probably have a plaid jacket and a cowboy hat on lol
Ill call you the Jester of cars You dont feel like arguing bc you cant prove your point Keep trying to disguise it
We are in a Toyota recall thread and you guys still cant prove your points

BTW I like the Office too but to sign up for the official website hmmmm no

I’m just glad it doesn’t affect my ‘06 lol.

My my my, you do seem to have a lot of time on your hands. Remember, 2 can play the google game… Are you really that comfortable with your online persona?

Ooooh is that a threat? An online threat Oh no. You are going to Google me. Are you comfortable with your real life persona? Who has the time on their hands
That last post got to you huh? You are the one that said you sell used Pontiacs buddy. Like I said if you want to start that game be my guest
Just be prepared for the consequences. Anyway if you could prove your point (which you cant) you wouldnt be making online threat I can see you hitting shift 1111 now lol

You are a nut job. Wow.

here is a toyota negligent recall. One that Toyota knew about for a long time but refused to act. One that caused injuries… and a hell of alot more current then a 5 year old cadillac recall.

NEWS: Toyota recalling Sequoia, Tundra models
WASHINGTON – January 17, 2007 – Toyota Motor Corp. said Thursday it was recalling 533,000 Tundra pickup trucks and Sequoia sport utility vehicles because of potential steering problems.

Toyota said the recall involved 2004-2006 Tundra trucks and 2004-2007 Sequoia full-size SUVs. The automaker has received reports of 11 accidents and six injuries connected to the recall, said Toyota spokesman…

The automaker said there was a possibility of excessive wear to a front suspension lower ball joint that could make it difficult to steer the vehicle and stay in the center of the lane. Drivers may also notice more noise coming from the front suspension,….

Nuts lol
Let me ask you something honestly Do you really think that GM has a better product than the Japanese ? If you can honestly say yes Ill leave you alone

WOW kids. Still arguing with 1115, huh? tisk tisk Counting the hairs on my arm is a MUCH better use of my time.

Injunraiv….

Notice still he still refuses to acknowledge his lies? He has the biggest pair of balls in the world right until someone puts his lies and hypocrisies right out there. He’ll say no one can prove it, but once the proof is there… he’ll do his best to avoid addressing them.

If you like injunraiv, you can go and post whatever personal information you like about the douchebag… frankly, I don’t wish to go that far… all I wanted to do was clearly show that he’s a hypocrite and now, a liar (which he made himself out to be a liar) when it comes to cars… I have no reason to post anything irrelevant to that fact, even if I could.

Either way… I’m sure he’ll never be man enough to actually address the lies he has told and instead we can only expect him to dance around and change the subject by pulling up random and irrelevant things about other people. I’ve said it before… I’m more than old enough to realize that anything I post on the internet is there for all to see and I’ve never been worried about it because all of my stories match up from place to place for one single reason – I’m not some little coward that lies, back-peddles, and changes my stories.

While ignorant BS is ignorant BS… at least everyone knows that his ignorant BS comes from the mouth/keyboard of a liar and a hypocrite.

http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/story.html?id=584e26f6-856c-4c3f-b34a-f4a6edfd4a14
BS (Ironic) I see your Toyota recall and show you a GM recall Which is recent but on older models which proves they take longer to recall the cars and I have some more for recent “New GM” models as well

AMG is blowing his top. Someone needs some Adderol lol
I believe I’ve addressed you like 2 times in this thread alone. You are old enough to realize what you post on the internet but not old enough to own up to the fact that your point is false and cant be proven
Remember take it there and beware. SS# CC#’s and personal info can show up if you take it that far.
What you need to do is grow up and calm down. This is really putting a hurting on you isn’t it ??
What can’t be addressed is why you whine so much.

I don’t want to either. I guess that’s what separates us from them…

Correction… with the name “tripleonefive.” I don’t want some pansyass excuse because i mis-typed.

whaaaaa remember

Is there any particular reason you’re incapable of answering a simple question?

Even if you win an argument against 1115 loser, you can’t change the fact he’s a retard. And yes, GM does make a better vehicle than Toy Ota, no matter how you slice it.

GM > Toy Ota.

In order to call me a liar you would have to have conclusive proof which you dont.You on the other hand have your cars listed online
You are the one that started this game remember.
Really, I dont care bc my point is proven and your its getting to you so much that you are spending an adnormal amount of time looking for info on me.
I dont care about anyone on this board bc it is AN ONLINE BOARD. You seem very sensitive and take things personally which is a female trait and I say that not to insult you but to inform you. You can call me a liar, hypocrite or whateever but due to lack of proof and me not caring it means less than nothing to me. However they can see you as a big baby who whines and who is way too immature to handle an online thread.
Each time you post you whine more and show how immature and sensitive you are.
Back to the subject. The Toyota Highlander is a helluva vehicle and I come on the board just to let poeple know that GM ford and others are unreliable and unsafe as well. They have bad track records and this is proven. They should prove themselves and then consumers will consider them in the same league as the Japanese. I back this up with resale reliabiltiy rating from valued sources and all you guys bring back to me is a JD Powers 3 year study on a Buick lol. Until GM and others are forced to make a reliable car they wont bc they can sell the car on patriotism alone and that is dangerous for drivers on the roads which can be you

The diference between you and I is that we know GM and Ford and Chrysler and Toyota and everyone else have recalls.
But you contend Japanese are not serious and they do not cause injuries unlike big 3 recalls. That sir is inaccurate and false. (see my previous post)
The fact of the matter is that I believe some Japanese companies are at the top of the car industry (Honda Subaru and others). Toyota is no longer there. But you blindly and ignorantly defend anything that comes from Japan.
Toyota is dropping quickly in quality while two of the big three are making great efforts and will soon surpass Toyota in Inital Quality and we will eventually see them surpass Toyota in long term quality. What I am saying is that alot of Toyotas new stuff is way below their PRECIEVED bar of perfection. And you are to flawed to see that.
The biggest deference between a GM recall and a Toyota recall is not the quantity or the severity of the recall. It is that most of Toyota’s recalls involve new product, and many of GM’s recent recalls involve older, no longer produced vehicles.(See your above post)

I have never said that Japan doesn’t have recalls.
I do think some recalls are more serious than others especially when injuries are already involved I cant help that.
GM has already injured people and Honda and Toyota have not.
The real question is why is everyone on this board so gung Ho (lol) about Toyota having recalls???
Ask yourself that question. Could it be that we are Americans and we should prefer an American product even though it may not be as well made??

GMs recalls involve a range of vehicles that go all the way to current models
My above recall was just one of the many recalls some of which had thread on LLN
I don’t think anyone has a PERcieved bar of perfection for any car but there are some cars that are less likely to give problems and when comparing the Japanese vs. American, the Japanese car is less likely to have issues. The resale and the numbers speak for themselves
If you seriously think that GM is on par with the Japanese then fine but the numbers show otherwise. If you buy American over Japanese your decision is based on either stupidity patriotism or hope none of which are reasons to consider a GM when shopping for a car
If you like your Cadillac’s or Pontiacs then fine just don’t buy it on patriotism.

1115 do you read other people’s posts???? Maybe you have a short term memory, I don’t know.
Where do I start?

1. You said “I have never said that Japan doesn’t have recalls”…I never said you did.

2. You said “GM has already injured people and Honda and Toyota have not.” My previous post showed that from this one toyota recall 6 people where injured( thats all Toyota would confirm although there were more)

3.Aw Fuk it. What’s the point you’re to retarded to get it.

267 engine fires posted in the thread and I have more if you are interested
You sir are the retard (since you are namecalling)

To bad they cant recall the Highlander to fix its horrendous styling.

“Let me ask you something honestly Do you really think that GM has a better product than the Japanese ? If you can honestly say yes Ill leave you alone”

Yes. And when I say that I’m saying that ALL manufacturers have problems. I’ve taken Hondas on trade from very disappointed owners who’ve discovered there is no panacea of quality. I’ve had customers who’ve experienced abnormally high levels of problems with their GM vehicles as well. I’ve owned DOZENS of GM vehicles over the years, and am yet to have a car that I couldn’t rely on. Your experience might have been different. But more likely you’ve never even owned a domestic and think you’re smarter than everyone else because you have a Honda. I’ve seen it all too often…

Now we’ll see if your word is any good.

I read the 267 engine fires and 6 injuries from the 1997 to 2003 Buick Regals and Pontiac Grand Prixs. I acknowleded that.

Did you read about the 6 (six)injuries caused by faultly ball joints in one year old toyotas.
Will you correct your previous statements that Toyota’s recalls never injured anyone?

So Injuraiv your trades and your 12 or more cars is a basis for the millions that drive cars and had a terible experience with a domestic? Everyone is lying about having a Honda that went 10 plus years with no problems etc etc ?
Bubs send me the link please I will respond

And it took very long to answer lol but yea Ill leave you alone if you do the same

First of all, I have a life.

No, I’m saying that based on my 20+ years of experience that your biases and statements are incorrect. I can’t explain the mass delusion that jap cars are better than domestics. For the life of me I can’t figure it out. I’ve dealt with some of these people who insist their car never breaks when it’s in my shop because it’s broken! But funny thing about the public. Their perceptions change from time to time, and everything is cyclical.

Also, I tow vehicles for AAA and believe me I get to haul a lot of jap brands to various shops. It happens. It happens a lot.

I see it, I live it. You don’t.

Oh, and let me be the first to call BS on you when you go crazy over the latest GM recall announcement LLN will eventually cover. It seems that in one crash test (one) that a dummy hit its head on a door pillar and might have gotten hurt. So even without any injuries GM is fixing it. I can’t wait to hear more BS from you on that!

I really don’t give a **** if you leave me alone or not. It’s just that you promised, and now it looks like you’re adding clauses to avoid having to live up to it.

Well I have to answer you and you did try and call me on bull****?If you say you have a life then so be it

I can’t explain the mass delusion that jap cars are better than domestics. Mass delusion Good one !

I dont quite know what you are talking about with a dummy head and whatever but Ill figure it out lol

lol You dont know what I do and do not do but like
I said if you honeslty feel that its a massive delusion and conspiracy against GM and domestics then so be it but your 20 years experience and your used car sales dont reprensent the masses. Ask Commo about the past 20 years of GM crap
You definetely give a **** or you wouldn’t have said live up to your word. Dont mess with me and I wont mess with you Sounds like you are not living up to your word

there is the link
http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/toyota/toyota_tundra.htm

No injuries or accidents have been connected to the recall then there were 11 accidents and 6 injuries? Assuming that this article isnt full of **** 267 fires and six injuries is less than 267 fires 6 injuries? but its bad either way but thank you for letting me prove it wasnt as bad as a GM recall.
also
The New GM is the old GM
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/02/nhtsa_gm_fires.html

The HHR is a 2006-2008 Model I was having a hard time finding that recall but thanx The truck owners reported to NHTSA that both homes were badly damaged and two people were injured in one of the fires. The trucks set homes on fire ! Homes possibley with Children OH THE CHILDREN
GM is recalling 275,936 MY 2005-2007 Cadillac CTS, SRX, STS, MY 2006-2007 Pontiac Solstice, and MY 2007 Saturn Sky passenger vehicles. The rear axle pinion seal does not meet all of the specifications and may experience a fluid leak. A rear differential failure may cause loss of motive power and possibly loss of vehicle control increasing the risk of a crash. Dealers will replace the pinion seal.
Umm I thought you said the recalls were from 5- 15 years ago . When you can admit that GM is making recent recalls on their new models (which further proves my point and negate your point) Toyota may have caused 6 injuries compared to 267 GM fires and over 8 injuries including buring 2 homes down its still better to buy the Toyota
Compromise

1115, get a life, son. Remember GM-18XX and Need-more-oil-4-gm? You became them(him), but on another side of the spectrum. Those arguments not good for you: you’ve been fighting non-existing war from noon to 7 P.M. what else could you accomplish today? Smell the flowers, listen to music, watch some other news.

I still think it’s hilarious that he can’t even answer a simple question…

‘jackdev’, you beat me to it … that is one horrible-looking fecal dump.

re:
GM is recalling 275,936 MY 2005-2007 Cadillac CTS, SRX, STS, MY 2006-2007 Pontiac Solstice, and MY 2007 Saturn Sky passenger vehicles. The rear axle pinion seal does not meet all of the specifications and may experience a fluid leak. A rear differential failure may cause loss of motive power and possibly loss of vehicle control increasing the risk of a crash. Dealers will replace the pinion seal.

Actually this recall was announced by Getrag, the manufacturer of the rear axle. They made GM aware of their mistake and hence released this recall to replace to affected parts. Getrag manufactures many parts for many companies including BMW and Porsche. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getrag
Unlike Toyota, GM took the blame for the defect and didnt blame Getrag(which the imports defiantly would of)

re:
Component: 2002 CADILLAC SEVILLE FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:STORAGE:TANK ASSEMBLY
Potential Units Affected: 102212
2002 CADILLAC SEVILLE FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:STORAGE:TANK ASSEMBLY
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE FUEL TANK PRESSURE SENSOR
I hope you realize that a skewed Fuel Tank Pressure sensor will only provide false FTP reading that will result in excess vacuum that will set a Type A DTC with a resulting MIL lamp. Most people would have gone to a dealer and received a replacement ‘Made in Singapore’ sensor and be on their way. Accidents and injuries. I think not.
Because it is an emission control, a safety recall was issued.

Somehow I don’t see Toyota subletting seatbelt and seat design to a smaller vendor. They should of had this figured out YEARS AGO. SUV’s and kids, yeah no brainer.

GM fires…. most of these cars had a valve cover leak and recommended at some point for a repair. The owners that chose to neglect a simple valve cover gasket repair (all manufacturers have leaking valve covers) were shocked that oil followed the rules gravity and ran onto the exhaust. (supercharged engine exh manifolds are much hotter than NA mtrs) Shocking. Most import owners gladly pay for a simple repair like that. Most domestic owners are skeptical they are getting hosed by a flat rate mechanic. Its ok, GM will goodwill new engines for owners that have never changed their oil. Lets see you get a warranty or out of warranty repair out of an import without a service history. Didn’t think so.
Injuries were most likely a result of negligence. Do you think someone got injured getting burned in a car in the drivers seat from a fire at the engine? More like burnt eyebrows opening the hood and diving in for a closer look.

and someone said that japan was better kiss my ass

LOL, so funny. LLN just needs to put the word “recall” and some big car manufacturer and we get posts up to 50+ talking about a bunch of useless BS.

Oh, for ****’s sake. What does a Toyota recall have to do with GM, people?

A defective seat belt is a huge deal, and the recall is warranted. Chalk it up to growing pains and see it for what it is. Proof that Toyota’s reputation is not much more than public perception, as usual. There is no perfect car company, and Toyota never has been close. They were simply the ‘other man’ who was there to pick up the pieces when our love for domestic iron went sour.

Exactly it doesn’t oldraven. 1115 just likes to throw the old “Hey Toyota has a recall, but in comparison to GM they are still better” see his first post…

I know, we’re all just feeding the Troll, though. He did exactly what he wanted. He turned around, and you all helped, and made it about GM’s quality. I’ve seen more talk about GM recalls, from both sides, in this thread than the actual recall on topic, a Toyota one. You call him an idiot, then you play right into his hands.

It’s like a dog who rips up your couch for attention. Sure, you’re beating him with a shoe, but hey, attention is attention.

^^LOL – old wisdom from oldraven! I keep saying I’ll stop, then keep doing it. Sometimes it’s just fun…

Who’s that trip trip tripping across my bridge? It’s Uber Troll!

ING: time for toast!

haha yeah I know oldraven, exactly why I stayed out of posting and trying to argue with 1115 in this thread. lol I didn’t even bother wasting my time.

Hey, I’m guilty. I fought this goon for a few weeks before I saw that it’s always a big useless circle. You can’t convince someone who has no capacity for perspective. He’ll just keep drawing his own conclusions from everything we type, no matter how much those arguments prove the opposite. Show the guy an Apple, and if he’s convinced enough that every fruit is an Orange, you’ll be holding an Orange.

Well sure, but only if he’s convincing. This guy thinks he’s being convincing, but all he’s really doing is reinforcing that you’re better off with the apple in the first place.

oldraven
You have hit the nail on the head. 1115 is incapable of seeing past his own narrow minded opinions. And he is not worth anyones time.
Thanks for sharing your insight with a newbee

Thanks Injuraiv
He has read “Daily affirmations” lol You are special and people like you ” lol
Love it
I would love to get figures on how many people are trading their Hondas and Toyotas in for Pontiacs lol
Ill give my civic in for a sunfire or a g5 lol

People like me, people hate you. I’ll take my lot in life, thank you!

People on a car thread like you lol Im glad your happy lol

I don’t really think the people on this car thread even know me. I’m talking about people in general. I bet you’re the type who get heads of lettuce thrown at them when they get on a stage…

You are the type of guy who cant sell a car even if they werent GM’s