How are Tundra sales up? That baffles me. I also find it interesting that Toyota calls their minivan a truck as well, that adds 14K units to the truck division. I also cant understand why Toyota still sells the Land Cruiser, it has a terrible sales record, is a gas hog (goes against Toyota’s “green” image), and other than enthusiast nobody associates it with anything good or memorable. The Land Cruiser + GX & LX series is barely able to scrape 3K sales together.

Toyota car sales on the other hand surprises nobody. Record sales will continue into next year for them.

Kenny,

All manufacturers count mini van sales as light truck sales. It’s the way it is! Look on Autotrader and you won’t find any vans listed, you have to click on the link to truck trader to find vans.

Toyota make vehicles that people actually want to buy and pay hard earned cash for. The big three for the most part get there sales by buying people off with big discounts. If they keep this up, they will all go broke.

I think most, if not all manufactuers consider minivans light trucks.

Basicly all minivans are considred trucks. It is the way the EPA classifys them.

Yeah, they dont even deserve their own catergory so its just easier classifying them as trucks

Of course they are going to report Toyota is doing well, auto companies pay top dollar for lies.

“Toyota make vehicles that people actually want to buy and pay hard earned cash for.”
You’re kidding, right? I refuse to spend my “hard earned cash” on their vehicles. Their trucks are a joke, and I wouldn’t be caught dead in Prius or a Camry…or better yet, a Yaris. These vehicles are the epitome of boring.

90Z …. apparently boring sells … in fact it sells real well… “You wouldn’t be caught dead in a camry”… you could do a lot worse

Most people here don’t understand the draw to Toyota. Most people here want RWD, 6 Speed 2 door coupes that get 15 mpg and smoke everything on the road. These readers, don’t make up the majority of the market. The majority of the market wants automatic, reliably, efficient. Toyota gives them all of these things.

90Z, pull your head out of your ass, just because YOU don’t like them doesn’t mean they aren’t good cars. They fulfill the requirements of the masses, which is the ideal market. Isn’t this common sense?

I’m okay with combining Tacoma/Sienna sales…What I’m NOT okay with is combining Solara/Camry sales.

As someone over at Cheers and Gears said, people would deride GM if they tried to put their Monte Carlo/Impala sales figures together, and those vehicles have about as much in common as the Solara/Camry.If Camry gets record sales awards, I call it bogus.

Kenny, Tundras have been given heavy incentives, so they’re selling better.

They’ve got a big hit with the RAV.

Sean: So I have my head up my ass just because I don’t want to be lumped in with the masses? Since when is individuality not a desirable trait in America? It’s all about freedom here, and I am exercising my right NOT to buy these vehicles. Lots of people on this site freely express their dislike for the vehicles I like to drive (often vehemently), so why can’t I do the same? I never said they weren’t decent cars, I just said that they’re boring…and they are. Boring sells because the masses in America have their heads up their asses and do whatever the media tells them to do instead of thinking for themselves. If the media decided tomorrow that driving a golf cart was the hot new trend and hyped golf carts as the answer to the oil crisis, you can bet that the masses would be out there tomorrow buying golf carts.

90Z, you commented on the word “people”, which practically stands for the masses Toyota sells their vehicles to. That’s what got you into this mess. When they say, “Toyota make vehicles that people actually want to buy and pay hard earned cash for.” they’re not kidding. The sales numbers say it all. Your original argument holds true if you’re part of the “people” they talked about which means having your logic does all the actions.

Veda: So you’re telling me that I should just do everything I do on a daily basis based on what the “people” or the “masses” do? That sounds like a bad idea to me. Why would I want to “keep up with the Joneses,” especially if I think they’re making bad decisions? If I were to live my life like the masses (at least the people I see everyday), I’d be in major debt, working a dead-end job, and just waiting for the government to bail me out when I claim bankruptcy. No, I don’t want to buy what Consumer Reports tells me to buy. I buy what I think is a good vehicle for the money at the time of purchase. Since styling and powertrain are important to me, I’m not willing to settle for a bland grocery getter with low horsepower. You go buy whatever you want.

90Z, as much as you may hate to admit, it you are keeping up with the Joneses. Regardless, you buy what you think is a good vehicle for the money at the time of purchase. And yet you say you aren’t keeping up with the Joneses? What do you think every person who purchases a Camry says? “Well, its a good buy for the money, reliable and efficient.”

The only thing worse than the masses, are the counter-culture groups that are anti-establishment, failing to realize they are their own clique and establishment.

But you keep on preaching your purposefully vague and ambivalent rhetoric about your individualism because its irony like that which gives anyone intelligent a good chuckle.

Ah yes, I’m the one lacking intelligence because I don’t agree with you, Sean. Typical.

90Z, just curious – what vehicle is it that you’d buy that would make you the snowflake you so adamantly think you are? No supercars, no tuners, no one-offs, but an actual alternative to Toyota’s line of practical cars that you have so much contempt for. You are NOT a snowflake.

Why should I tell you? I’ve already expressed my opinion here, and look at the grief I’m taking for it. Why don’t we all just agree to disagree and move on? You & the others can buy Toyota, and I’ll buy something other than Toyota. Simple solution.

People trust Toyota. This wasn’t an overnight thing. It took years to build. It will also take Ford and GM a while to catch back up. Give it time. Hopefully they can turn it around. T

Sean: the dumb asses who buy toasters for a car are not car enthusiasts, period. If you want a POS appliance, buy a Toy Ota, if you want some excitement in your life, enjoy a good drive buy something else.

If you want a POS non appliance, buy GM.

“C3P0″, more manure being spewed I see … I can’t wait until the Supra comes out … you’ll eat the **** you’re spewing now.

Yeah, you can’t wait because you know it’s gonna get 0wned by our Corvettes/Vipers. Go away or face humiliation, retard.

“Yeah, you can’t wait because you know it’s gonna get 0wned by our Corvettes/Vipers. Go away or face humiliation, retard.”

The fact is we can all claim what we want to be in this forum but posts like this really shows how immature some people are when losing a discussion.

I wasn’t addressing you, so stay out of it. Jap-lover.