Since you like Imports, try to use that singular working brain cell, that hasn’t been wrecked with what ever it is you smoke, drink, and/or inject, and understand I probably wasn’t referring to you. You stopped being funny or even remotely amusing the instant you used a single swear word since like most fools you just can’t express yourself effectively. Must be compensating for something… based on your ranting Most of us can guess what.

Also, My alias “Blakkar”… TRY READING IT YOU DAMNED DEGENERATE APE! Blak… kar… Black car…

Not so clever an ass-brain could miss it but apparently one did.

To echo GM: “this is our country”. And if you watch that Chevy commercial carefully, you can catch a glimpse of the mushroom cloud somewhere between the Vietnam and WTC ground zero scenes–just so all you foreign car companies know…

Hopefully this will be just the start of Toyotas eventual exit from this country.

It was still a four door family sedan but it also had a good rear drive chassis and an optional turbo engine– with an automatic.

It really doesn’t seem that hard for them to offer a sedan like this in a Toyota package, especially since as a company they are PROFITING so much they should be able to afford to sell interesting cars for a change.

Personally, I think the Solara was, like the Thunderbird with FORD, the wrong car for the division. If TOYOTA sold the Solara as a Lexus, a coupe version of the ES, It could have worked out much better. Like wise, for those who care, the Thunderbird would have worked better (if at all) as a Lincoln.

I don’t see the FWD mid-sized coupe segment dying out, but growing up and reorganizing, as the youth racer and sport compact crowd grows up they will inevitably want a larger car that still reflects their youthful wants. Honda I think sees that as does Nissan, Mazda could easily follow suit (MX-6 anyone?). American tastes may eventually rule out FWD in the long run but until then, as it is said, “Get with the program or get lost”.

I actually believe the new Tundra will do extremely well compared with the previous years. I think the current price of fuel will finally change the mind of those who were Ford/Chevy/GMC/Dodge loyalists when it comes to pickups. Especially with a 381HP V8 that only asks for a 16/20 MPG EPA. Interior comfort and quality looks promising according to several reviews that i’ve read. The ’07 Tundra looks like a promising all-around package. You just seem upset that the Japanese are finally catching up to the Americans in their own game.
BTW, the control knobs are made that way so you can use them more easily when wearing thick working gloves. But why would you notice that, your too busy acting stupid and calling them a bunch of dipshits because you don’t know any better. Grow up.

I strongly agree with you. Why there is always someone trying to make this forum look idiot?

Anyway, Everyone says the mid-sized coupe segment is dying at one point or another, then FORD comes along with a new mis-sized mustang and GM and DCX are hot to follow. If you got deep pockets, go Euro.

Toyota can play in the fields they want but don’t cry sour grapes just because they haven’t come out with anything in a segment that works out. They could have made something of the Celica when they were steadily up-sizing it, before turning it into a cute, spaceship looking, Integra wanna-be.

I’ve never been a Toyota fan but now I have even less reason to be sympathetic with them.

I was on a chat @ Edmunds wed, 9-10 EST,with Ian Beavis, mareting mgr for Kia USA. I asked if they were going to bring a Optima Coupe to markey in a few years, and he basically said they were discussing that just recently(smething like this..ps, don’t laugh too hard, Optiam cmae in 3rd out of 6 cars, in a C&D shootout… 1was Accord, 2 was altima, 3 was Optima, 4 Aura, 5 camry, 6 Sebring…Optima has been praised for everything but 0-60 times, and even those aren’t “white knuckle” ordeals).

You have Altima Coupe coming out, G6, Accord Coupe, and possibly(1-2 years) a Optima Coupe.
Yeah, the market’s dead! LOL!
roll-eyes.

The Solara was kind of bland, and COST too much for what you got!

I agree with you totally… FWD was decent (liveable, not desirable) when cars were weighing 2500lbs, but after they pass the 3000 pound mark, they should atutomatically be AWD or RWD…

Toyota needs to do some more research… To say no one wants a midsize coupe is ignorant…it just needs the right chassis… Look at the G35 coupe… For expensive as it is, I see a lot of them… Just imagine if they were cheaper… No one wants a FWD midsize coupe, that’s what Toyota needs to understand… They could capitalize on a largely untapped segment of automobiles… People want an affordable, Light (under 3000 lbs), RWD Coupe with back seats (think 240sx…). I hear it all the time… But some reason the industry is lagging… I hear excuses like “only enthusiasts want a RWD coupe”. Well, that maybe true, but what’s wrong with that? There are A LOT of enthusiasts in this world… go to cardomain.com to get an idea of how many enthusiasts are out there… Google (brand name) forum… And when you think that’s alot, just remember, it’s only a fraction of the total number of enthusiasts out there… Enthusiasts are like “instant demand” for a properly built car… Enthusiasts swarm to great cars… Then they spread the word… Then the regular joe Shmoe goes to buy the great car cause an enthusiast told him it was a great car…

It’s not a hard formula, but a lot of auto makers just can’t get it right… They use excuses like, it’s more expensive to build a nice car than it is to make a cookie cutter… They can’t see past the instant dollar signs… They’re blinded by numbers… What they don’t realize is a proper sports car (often a coupe) becomes a big shining pendant of Identity for the brand. When a company has a bad ass sports car, brand equity increases dramatically… Every brand needs a halo car, then the rest of the vehicles are influenced by that and so on… Toyota does not have one… They are becoming known as the sterile, beige, boring automopliance… watch them sink.

I pray that this is not a portent of the future when Toyoa takes over GM. They’ll sit on the mountaintop denouncing market segments because they can’t compete in them. As a matter of fact; their recent rhetoric on hybrids vs diesel; CVT transmissions vs 7+ speed transmissions , seems like we’re already there.

Toyota has lost its luster. Recalls (that they convenient try to defer to problems in the Indiana plant), bland styling and weak engines suddenly make buying a Toyota just about the same as buying domestic.

Holy shit, he said something that makes sense.

Even the shitty aftermarket part from China that I bought to replace it had a damn wheel. Congratulations, GM. You are professional grade (TM).

something that toyota has always done is evolve there products, making changes where they need to be made, and having better product afterward. for them to drop out of a segment means something is going to happen.

In any case, I saw no less than 86.532 GM vehicles (with a standard deviation of 0.933) on the freeway when suddenly their axles flew off and the drivers were all simultaneously ejected out of their vehicles. It was like Cirque du Soleil: Rush Hour. It was awesome.