Comments on: Toyota to debut Venza sedan at Detroit show

By: RobCali

RobCali — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:30:39 +0000

Turkey: No ghettos this side of the Mississippi? Are you KIDDING ME?

Head: The name sounds FINE. And basing your opinion of a car completely on its name, especially when you don’t even know what the thing looks like is still absolutely ridiculous. It says more about your biases than anything else.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:03:51 +0000

Veda: there’s no ghettos this side of the mississippi. What’s you problem today. Got your monthly visitor?

By: Veda

Veda — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:00:05 +0000

JJT: “If you like GM over the big 2 Japanese then you are buying a better vehicle.”

Fuckin hypocrite… didn’t you say something about being fair and objective in another article? Turns out to be just patriotic scum from Compton ghetto…

By: AxeHead

AxeHead — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:39:23 +0000

RC:
I guess that’s my perogative as a consumer to buy a car based on the name now isn’t it. Your reverse assumptions is incorrect, just because a car has a cool name, I wouldn’t buy it. This is all opinion, and the consumer paying the $ has a choice. Face it, the name is ugly.

By: jayjc08

jayjc08 — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:57:08 +0000

tripleonefive- Too bad they already have bashed Toyota. Go drive a Tundra, drive a Ford and drive a Chevrolet and see the difference. I can tell you first hand that the Chevrolet is top par, and the Toyota is the substandard, as I have driven all three. Ford set the bar and has done so for years.

jackjim- Big two Japanese? Remember, Nissan is not Japanese! And Honda doesn’t quite make a “true truck”.

The Stig- I say 57 days… not including launch.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:55:33 +0000

I said the same thing when CTS was COTY. It’s meaningless.

If you like GM over the big 2 Japanese then you are buying a better vehicle.

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:38:33 +0000

Yea its funny how they lose credibility when the Tundra is truck of the year. If they bashed Toyota like this website then they would have credibility
HMM sounds convienient
Even with a recall the Tundra beat the american comp. If you like GM over the big 2 Japanese then you are buying an inferior vehicle and you are an idiot
Lamboz is mad huh lol Ha

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:52:39 +0000

(EDITOR’S NOTE: Testing, judging, and story for the February 2008 issue of Motor Trend were completed and printed before the latest safety recall involving 15,600 2007 Tundras to correct a potential driveshaft issue)

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:12:39 +0000

zoomzoomr: “I figured Toyota’s next new US model would be a small 7-seater wagovan (i.e. Corolla Verso) targeted at Mazda5/Kia Rondo/upcoming Chevy Zafira.”

I don’t know why any full-line automaker would be missing such a rig. Honda should bring in the Stream.

global_lightning: You forgot “zipperhead.”

N_yo_face: ” … tens of thousands of Honda’s flagship sedans roaming the streets as virtual Molotov cocktails.”
straight genius!

tripleonefive: Motor Trend lost its credibility about two years ago.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-malibu-sales-far-out-pace-expectations-buick-enclave-slaes-still-strong.html

Commodore: “Have you ever considered that Motor Trend was simply trying to balance itself by choosing an import for truck of the year?”
Have YOU ever considered that Motor Trend doesn’t know what it’s doing, and only picked the CTS as COTY on the “stopped-clock-is-right-twice-a-day” principle?

1115: Yes, the Tundra is the truck of the year. That is a FACT.

Stig: Launch plus 57 days.

By: autonut

autonut — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:49:27 +0000

Commodore, please accept my apologies. I thought you don’t like Toyotas and counted you as a negative comment. My mistake. 25 negative posts, one neutral one positive (before my previous post).

By: The Stig

The Stig — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:56:35 +0000

Place your bets for when it will be recalled.

By: RobCali

RobCali — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:43:45 +0000

AxeHead: Pretty stupid of someone to buy a car or not buy a car because of what it’s called, isn’t it, especially when no one has even seen it yet? Using that kind of shallow logic you might as well say you’d go out and buy a POS car just because you thought its name was “cool.”

By: jbryan75

jbryan75 — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:30:39 +0000

Commodore, “JAP” would apply to the 1950s and post-WWII as well. Study history much? Anyway, what the hell does that have to do with anything? You as well as many people on this site are still pretty ignorant.

By: AxeHead

AxeHead — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:22:22 +0000

Venza … what a stupid name. Sounds dumb, actually unintelligent. Reminds me of Densa or Venereal or a maybe a German kids name. Whoever in marketing thought this up should be taken to task. I wounldn’t buy the car just because of this name.

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:05:44 +0000

Commodore
stop crying the Tundra is the truck of the year Live with it

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:14:56 +0000

Isn’t it great autonut! Gawd I love the smell of LLN in the morning.

By: Commodore

Commodore — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:11:47 +0000

Not really autonutt.
I for one simply pointed out that the one part we do know (the name) is retarded. Also, a bunch of other people said that they think it will resemble Toy’s FT-SX concept so we talked about the CONCEPT not the car that is yet to debut. There were some who made preemptive comments, but not nearly as many as you tried to say.

1115 – you can’t be serious. We both know that the Tundra is one of the worst full-size trucks out there. Have you ever considered that Motor Trend was simply trying to balance itself by choosing an import for truck of the year? They would get hammered if they chose a domestic after their COTY choice is domestic (CTS). Them picking the Tundra is no indication of anything, they are just doing what they always have – import humping. If you want to restart the Tundra vs Silverado argument though…keep talking.

By: autonut

autonut — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:36:49 +0000

27 posts above mine are making interesting peak into dynamics of this blog:
no one could see the car
There are absolutely no details on mechanicals
26 posts already expressed absolute distaste and disdain for the vehicle that nobody seen or knows what its guts are
one guy tries to defend company that makes the vehicle
and last but not the least there was a bit of racism, but this time I had nothing to do with it and even did not start it

Keep on blogging!

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:03:28 +0000

Hey import haters
Can anyone tell me what the Motor Trend 2008 truck of the year was ?

By: N_yo_face

N_yo_face — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:52:18 +0000

Damn CTS that was hilarious!

RobCali, no mention of the “typical American” comment? That’s so 2000. Thanks Madcapp for pointing out his ignorance.

By: global_lightning

global_lightning — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:12:02 +0000

Jap
Gook
Chink
Nip
Zip
Slant
Charlies

There, can we get back on topic now?

By: Madcapp

Madcapp — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:46:43 +0000

“Jap” would have been the 1940′s Rob, due to WWII. Go study your history.

By: RobCali

RobCali — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:11:35 +0000

This site is hilarious. Passing judgement on an automobile that has even been unveiled yet… and “Jap”? Really? Are we still stuck in the 1950s? Stop embarrassing yourselves. It’s so surprising that no one here realizes the sheer stupidity that fills a lot of these posts.

By: Commodore

Commodore — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:23:44 +0000

O and the FT SX is actually pretty good looking. Too bad Ford has the three bar chrome grille trademarked.

By: Commodore

Commodore — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:20:51 +0000

It will look like the Rogue/EX from Nissan. And the name is also one of the most retarded names ever. Can’t wait to see this shit though

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:47:24 +0000

^ no problem johnny, you are one hell of a funny guy.:)

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:42:08 +0000

…but thanks anyways CTS for sticking up for me! Keep your stick on the ice, eh.

By: zoomzoomr

zoomzoomr — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:38:14 +0000

^ oops “Venza” lol — see!!

By: zoomzoomr

zoomzoomr — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:37:51 +0000

Doesn’t Toyota already market half a dozen 5-passenger sedans and several more crossovers in the US? Where the hell would this fit? I figured Toyota’s next new US model would be a small 7-seater wagovan (i.e. Corolla Verso) targeted at Mazda5/Kia Rondo/upcoming Chevy Zafira. What the hell is this? Oh, and “Vensa” is a little too close to “Versa”.

By: Brendino

Brendino — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:33:24 +0000

FT-SX is actually okay. looks like the idea of the Taurus X only waaaaaaaaay better – the low-slung, functional crossover.

if it looks like that it’ll be okay. still not great though

By: rsg

rsg — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:29:48 +0000

Subaru tried this with the Outback Sedan from 99-07. Ever seen one? Exactly..

By: LP640

LP640 — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:27:58 +0000

you can tell by the name Venza that its going to be another cheap pathetic half assed attempt of a car

By: CA36GTP

CA36GTP — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:26:20 +0000

Sounds like a fancy way of saying “just another crossover to clutter the market”.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:21:38 +0000

CTS: canadians and Americans co-exist. “Asians” generally hate other “asians” more than they do westerners.

mazdaman: Good points.

By: global_lightning

global_lightning — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:14:00 +0000

They picked the wrong Spanish verb; here’s some good ones:
Toyota Roto
Toyota Jodido
Toyota Chupa
Toyota Aburrido

By: mazdaman

mazdaman — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:05:56 +0000

It sounds boring, stupid, and unnecessary. This current idiotic trend of trying to create “bold, new vehicle segments” is getting very tiresome. I remember all the hoopla over the Matrix being a “segment buster” when it was released; it ended up being just a tall, compact 5-door hatchback companion to the Corolla. Not exactly what I would call a “ground breaking vehicle”.

I would much rather see Toyota create a fun, sporty, front wheel drive compact sedan for Scion that would actually compete with the Honda Civic and Mazda3 (since the hideous, appliance-like 2009 Corolla is definitely not up to the challenge) instead of squeezing another superfluous “crossover sedan” product into Toyota’s already overstuffed lineup.

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:59:53 +0000

for the typical jap above,canuck is a canadian term, johnnycanuck is canadian, canada is no more america than japan is china.

By: Kaizen

Kaizen — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:54:29 +0000

For the typical American above, Venza translates to ‘Win” in Spanish.

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:36:10 +0000

The Venza? What the fuck is a Venza? I remember the Nissan Stanza. I’ve heard of Mensa. We all remember Tony Danza. This definitely tops ‘B9 Tribeca’as the dumbest new vehicle name in recent memory.

By: philsshon

philsshon — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:32:13 +0000

i bet it will look like my ass

By: Kaizen

Kaizen — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:30:18 +0000

See FT-SX concept.

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:29:44 +0000

yeah a heap of morons already like it although they have never seen it it is already superior to anything anywhere, lets fill the back up with hay for the sheep.

By: Madcapp

Madcapp — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:26:17 +0000

Wow, another sedan from Toyota. Didn’t see that coming.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:17:33 +0000

good point

By: drivingisfun

drivingisfun — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:10:46 +0000

Maybe Toyota should focus on making products that don’t need to be recalled instead of introducing new ones that noone asked for. First post.