First Post Toyota Sucks buy a Honda! lol!

Toyota has a lot to answer for. Their days of lying, cheating, and covering up have seen the “chickens” coming home to roost on that one.

Funny how the faux Dr Dreck who normally runs amok on this site has seen it fit to worm into oblivion where he belongs.

For Toyota, the worst is not yet over, there is yet more bad news on the way. Stay tuned…

Zesty Honda and that kind of users are really ruining the LLN comments section, “lol!”, are you serious?

About the post, is very likely to see another recall anytime soon…

“Since 2000 there have been over 2,000 documented cases of unintended acceleration in Toyota vehicles, and as many as 19 deaths from resulting crashes ”

……………………… WOW!

What battery cable?

Sounds like Toyota has been trying to pull the wool over the NHSTA’s eyes. Toyota, it seems, is just trying to point the finger at parts which are the cheapest to fix (whether they are the true culprit or not). First the floormats (fixed by zip ties!) and now the accelerator pedals. Try the fly by wire system Toyota….you might have better luck…or wait that might cost too much.

Of course I have no proof for any of this, but it stinks so bad I can’t help myself…

Pill
I like to watch you wallow in your own ignorance
You entertain me
That’s why I keep you here
DrFill

Good job by LLN BTW
It clearly states this is not a recall
This is a voluntary service announcement
Someday my minions will provide accurate information
DrFill

I just don’t understand why they didn’t recall and fix the problem as soon as it happened. Instead they covered it up, then issued an optional recall, then said no problem existed, then were proved wrong, and now this. For the record, trying to cover up flaws might work for the time, but when word gets out, the cover up is more of a scandal than the flaw itself. Just be like GM, or most automakers, and recall the vehicles, deal with negative criticism for the next few days, then move on and do business instead of getting caught up in months of criticism and poor care torwards customers. Toyota makes great cars, but still thinks that if they recall cars, they will lose popularity and money. What’s more important, customers’ lives or popularity? You decide.

-iluvamcars

if Toyota not to learn the lesson from the big 3, it will be game over for Toyota!

Let me guess, they’ll fix the pedals w/rubber bands? Zip ties won’t work w/gas pedals.

“Welcome to the National Toyota service hot line. All our customer service representatives are currently with other callers. Your estimated waiting time is… two… years”

Give this a week. Then they’ll throw the next supposed ‘fix’ against the wall to see if it sticks.

Well, we all knew this was coming

Bummer toyotas going to be hurting real bad after this..

I hate to say it, but after renting two different ‘09 and ‘10 Camrys over the past few weeks (funny how Hertz seems to have a LOT of them available lately!), I do think there’s something to this.

What I noticed about both Camrys was the almost complete lack of engine braking.. particularly when you cancel the cruise control and the car continues to cruise forward forever without seeming to lose any velocity! Almost every car I’ve ever driven will immediately begin to “drag” once the power is no longer being applied, but I physically had to brake every time to slow these beasts down after cutting the cruise control! I don’t know which mechanical part controls this, but I’m sure it has been tweaked to optimize fuel economy (both the ‘09 LE and ‘10 SE 4-cylinders averaged 33 mpg on mostly freeway trips, about 3-4 mpg more than my much smaller Mazda3s usually gets).

Perhaps this is the reason the folks in that Lexus ES had the violent crash? Maybe the power isn’t being cut, and in fact the cruise control actually increased their speed? I can’t imagine the floormats are the sole culprit (though I noticed Hertz retrofitted their mats with thick zip-tie fasteners to keep them firmly in place).

US government’s way of bringing down Toyota since the Big 3 can’t do it on their own. The cost of the recall is probably the reason for calling it quits in Formula 1. It is gonna cost them HUGE.

Dr Fill is gay and so is Zesty because nobody gives a **** if you got the first post queer.

In a seperate memo released today to all Police Officers who receive loaner cars:

If your vehicle begins to exhibit unintended acceleration immediately do the following (not necessarily in any order.)

If you feel your life or those of others is in danger feel free to do them all simultaneously.

Don’t call anybody because they can’t ferkin help you!

a) stand on the brake
b) apply parking brake
c) turn off the ignition switch
d) place car into neutral

At least they are going to fix all those hundreds of thousands of cars with accelerator problems.

Maybe they should also check the ECUs, as many are driven by wire.
I chalk this one up on some Toyota engineers angry about having to design and make boring cars for the last decade.

And still, all the Toyota fanboys will boast that this isn’t a recall to begin with, and that GM, Chrysler, Ford, Honda, Nissan, etc. all have had massive recalls and Toyota never has had one.

Dr Fill- Toyota will do everything in it’s power NOT to have this labeled as a recall.
Even when it’s putting the lives of others in danger.
How do you feel about that?
jayjc08

OHHHHH What A Feeling! ….. as you slam into a brick wall doing 120 in your prius.

This was the inevitable outcome to knock Toyota off this “We’re perfect” pedestal they’ve always claimed.

I actually laughed at that one Semgley. Good one!

-iluvamcars

WOW!!! I smell another coverup! I will never own a toyota! Why even bother with toyota when you can have a ford or honda?

It is inevitable that Toyota’s hidden worms would begin surfacing after all the constant cover ups that they have been engaged in throughout the years. Rusting undercarriages, faulty brakes, poorly designed engines, faulty bumper designs on their trucks, abysmally designed roofs that fail rollover tests. The list goes on.

Unfortunately, tragically, this has also cost lives. Toyota’s cumulative crimes will now be paid for in erosion of their so-called “bulletproof reputation” built on a mountain of lies.

Smegley, in the time it would take to get a Prius to 120 you could have gotten out of the car and built the wall yourself.

Damn, does this mean we have to give back the zip ties??

Johnny,

People who drive Priuses are too stupid to actually accomplish a feat like building a wall.

Besides, the carbon emissions which are generated by curing cement thusly warmed by solar radioactive output while interacting with the CO2 elements of both bovine and ovine flatulence thereby generating copiously superfluous algorine crapulence will yield an abundance of thermocarbonitrochloroflatulochemicomethosolarisothiocyanate atmospheric compounds thereby hastening the end of the world, but only prius drivers and the other enviromaggots of the world are capable of comprehending the full implications of this, so you and I must bow down and pay 3rd world dictators hundreds of billions of dollars to make it all okay.

Got it, Johnny?

I have to agree with AyrtonJ, this smells like a conspiracy by the NHTSA to bring Toyota down. If this problem arised since 2000, 9 freaking yrs ago, why nobody brought it up before? Nobody heard a damn thing untill a few weeks after Toyota became #1, then all hell broke loose.

A4, the word queer can be offensive to homosexuals, are you from the midwest?

Smegley, you had me at thermocarbonitrochloroflatulochemicomethosolarisothiocyanate.

@ johnnycanuck and Smegley Wanxalot

I’m cracking up with both your posts.

@ Zesty Honda,

You are correct with that, and get annoyed by people like A4 use terms like that. Aren’t there better terms that exude what you’re attempting to state available to use?

Johnny, everything there is to know about true science you can learn on Beakmans World.
I suggest everyone brush up … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7QvOKFm3wg

Toyota is too big for its own sake, cracks are appearing every where just look at their models, lexus and toyota, both sport lines of very boring looking cars, ugly looking bumpers, etc. They got too comfortable. I think momentum is on Ford and to some extent GM (Buick line). If you want consistenltygood looking cars and performance the Germans are the best.

Everytime I eat a dried apricot I fart.
Yet I still eat them.

There must be a tie-in to this story somewhere.

^^^ Yeah, global warming

after 19 fatalities they are saying they will volunteer to fix the problem? u bastards

Toyota seems to be more focused on being #1 and sales then maintaining a high level of quality. Like the saying goes; they’ve gotten too big for their britches!

1115 when he heard the news
http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/~ytl/personal/me_01.html

This company can do no wrong-wait this is Toyota right….

maybe i’m being a little harsh, but this “solution” is an insult to the dead…a revised pedal would’ve done nothing for them, because the pedal isn’t the problem…i hope the nhsta’s continued digging bears fruit…

CarsNut, are you actually serious? people are dying and the problem are obvious with hard facts, this is the NHTSA doing their job, the only cover-up is within Toyota

This isn’t over. Toyota keeps leaving a trail of bananas as a diversion but the monkey isn’t buying it.

One thing I don’t believe anyone has brought up yet is whether or not this is peculiar to North American issue Toyota product or if it’s a global problem. If it is only happening here then either it might lead them closer to the real cause or just add to the mystery.

Either way leftwing is right… the real solution lies elsewhere.

it would take quite a battery to get a prius up to 120, their actual top speed is only 112!

ZIP TIES!! ZIP TIES!!
I NEED MORE AND BIGGER ZIP TIES!!

Still no reply from Dr. Fill?
That’s alright.
Maybe he’s got nothing to say.
Don’t worry, we took you for less-than-smart in the first place!
But I’ll repeat to have it soak in.
Toyota will do everything in it’s power NOT to have this labeled as a recall.
Even when it’s putting the lives of others in danger.
How do you feel about that?
jayjc08

jayjc08.
Dr.filledwithcrap is to busy crying in the vomit. I have been telling you people for months now, that toyota is falling, and falling hard. Its the GMfrom the 1990’s. Toyota is going to spend millions if not billions to buy their way out of the hole. Who in there right mind would put their family is a piece of crap toyota, that may or may not have throttle issues. This is why toyota has all the new commercials that brag about safety. They knew this was going to happen months ago. Toyota stock is goint to crash in the next few months.

A lot of car companies have done what Toyota has done as far as covering up their tracks. Maybe when the Toyada guy was put in charge and he said something about the monumental problems facing Toyota (to which many of the Toyota fans on this site said were nothing compared to the D3’s problems) that he was hinting at this very issue? Maybe he knew from internal memos about the [snow]storm headed Toyota’s way? Just a thought, but if I were a white collar prosecutor . . . that’s where I’d start digging . . .

*ToyOda guy.

I’m sure this is just Toyota wanting to make sure their customers are happy. It isn’t ‘unintended acceleration’ it’s just the vehicle trying to get you home as quickly as possible. And the ‘fix’? Why would there have to be a fix? These are TOYOTAS! They NEVER break down, they are the best engineered, best built, and most reliable devices on the road! Built by the clever Japanese, who know more about mass production than any American ever could, plus they are not watering at the trough of the UAW, who is completely responsible for every defect on American cars.

Everyone knows that!

I’m beginning to wonder if Toyota even knows what the real problem is…

which is worse for a large corporation? looking deceitful of looking incompetent?

Up to 2,000 Toyota customers claim to have experienced a sudden surge of acceleration, and some reportedly told ABC News that they didn’t even have the recalled floor mats in their vehicles. Even more disturbing are the results of an ABC News investigation that reportedly found “hundreds” of accidents and up to 16 deaths as a result of unintended acceleration.
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=8982147

http://autocoverup.com/2009/04/06/lexus-sudden-acceleration/#STS=g1p78hww.1dlz
(2009/4/6)

1. The car accelerated all by itself
2. the brakes would not work while accelerating
3. Uncontrolled speeds can reaches between 65mph and 110mph
4. Lexus responds to all with “Improper installation of floor mats”

Make:
LEXUS

Article posted 6 months before family’s tragedy.

“More than 1,000 Toyota and Lexus owners have reported since 2001 that their vehicles suddenly accelerated on their own, in many cases slamming into trees, parked cars and brick walls, among other obstacles, a Times review of federal records has found.
The crashes resulted in at least 19 deaths and scores of injuries over the last decade, records show. Federal regulators say that is far more than any other automaker has experienced.”
“Dr. David. W. Smith, an emergency room physician from San Dimas, has yet to receive a satisfactory answer from Toyota about his Lexus GS 300. Smith said he was driving with his cruise control in Central California on Highway 99 last year, not touching the accelerator, when suddenly the vehicle accelerated to 100 mph. The brakes did not release the cruise control or slow down the vehicle, Smith recalled. Finally, he shifted into neutral and shut off the engine. “I am sure it is the cruise control,” he said. “I haven’t used it since.”"
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-fi-toyota-recall8-2009nov08,0,6120294.story

Absolutely ridiculous Toyota, it’s not the GOD DAMN FLOOR MATS! IT’S YOUR DRIVE-BY-WIRE SYSTEM! Look at this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laYrW–qYFA

CarsNut you are obviously off your rocker. People like you will watch Toyotas mistakes cause deaths and you will cry conspiracy!! GTFOH !! There is no conspiracy other than Toyota hiding information. Toyota is a company who sales as many vehicles as they do SOLELY based on their ‘perceived’ reliability. Nobody and I mean NOBODY buys a Toyota because its cool, or because the nostalgia it conjurs, or because they’re fun to drive. No they only buy it bcause all of their friends say “buy a Toyota they last forever, blah blah blah”. If their reputation of reliability is tarnished then they wont be able to sale one vehicle. Once the media gets a hold of this they are FVCKED

Typical Toyota. I always knew Toyotas were junk. Anybody who says different is living in a make belief world…or drives a Toyota..which means they are dumb.

My 4Runner is 7 years old and runs like new, interior doesn’t even have any squeaks or rattles. Best car I’ve ever owned thus far. However, since Toyota started building cars in the US, they have gone a bit downhill. The Japanese built models are more reliable and of better build quality. Same thing happened with VW when they started building cars in Mexico.

Maybe you should marry a Mexican and move to Japan

60 minutes need to shut these fools down like they did Audi in ‘86. Audi went from 90K US sales to like 12,000 units.

I’m married to a Mexican…

But I’m staying here.

It is neither the floor mats nor the gas pedal. It is something else.

We’ll hear about another defective part in a month.

$100 says they still claim it’s something other than the computer.

Gee 03T4R, how convenient that it is the American worker who is the cause of all of this. From your comment, I believe you are a dooshcanoe, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Now you need to post your source/proof of your claim.

We’re waiting…

Pay back for Hiroshima. Also, Toyota needs to check their values. It will end up costing them more money avoiding the problem at hand then actually fixing it right up front. Top brass is getting greedy.

Thanks daiso

that la times story is very good reporting. It shows how Toyota manipulated the system and how they hid this shiit for this long. Now it has blown up in their face…Time for someone in the Toyota camp to fall on their sword.

My proof is that I lived through it and seen the quality issues first hand. My cousin has also worked at a Toyota dealer for the last 30 years and he told me the same. If you want to see for yourself, you can check Consumer Reports, but they don’t have records going back far enough for a solid reference. So far my 4Runner has been the best quality and most reliably built car I’ve had. Since the early 90’s I’ve owned a Blazer, Cavalier, CR-V, Civic, GTI, Jetta, Passat, Ford Escape, and 4Runner. 4Runner blows them all away in overall quality and reliability, although the German cars were the most fun to drive. I’m also not blaming the American worker…schmuck…I’m blaming Toyota for using cheaper components to maximize profits.

The Japanese companies built their reputation for quality in the 90’s, so people assume they’re the best today. Realistically, they’re just not as good today as they were back then, but in comparison to to the s**t quality of the American companies and the electronic problems that plagued the German models in the late 90’s and early 2000’s, the Japanese models stood out of the crowd. The crowd is now finally catching up in quality, making the Japanese cars not stand out so much. Just as the Big 3 got lazy and ****y with their quality, Toyota and Honda seem to have done the same in the last few years with certain models.

A 1992 Ford Escort was the most reliable car I have ever owned, hands down. It outlasted both my sister’s Honda Accord and Acura Integra, one after the other. I got the Escort, she got the Accord, killed it, got the Integra, killed it, and THEN I traded the Escort.

I know, they weren’t Toyotas, but my Escort was an American car, and I drove it like a bat out of hell all the time, and never had an issue.

My wife’s Corolla went through TWO engines in 5 years.

Pathetic.

Ahhh, the old “I just know” defense, coupled with your cousin who worked at a dealer. I get it now. Sure, let’s trot out the venerable consumer reports, or as I like to call it, “Toyota Afficianado Monthly”. Great model they use – ask their readers to rate the cars they recommended. Sort of a self fulfilling prophecy if you ask me.

As for Japanese ‘quality’, I’ve been in the biz for years myself and I can tell you FIRST HAND that all makes break down – every one. Sure, some more than others, but they all have their problems. I’m glad you like your 4 runner, I really am. But as far as it blowing away the other cars you’ve owned, my guess is that since it’s the most recent vehicle you’ve bought, and quality has been rising across the board for 40 years now, you’ve simply bumped into what many others have also experienced with their american cars. I can attest to 100,000 plus 100% trouble free miles on my ‘03 Bonneville, 45K trouble free miles on my ‘05 GTO, 196,000 ‘almost’ trouble free miles on my ‘97 Yukon (all the problems happened after 150k), and on and on.

But you go on believing the ‘truth’ because you’ve lived it. I’m sure you’ve done enough research to have come to such an educated conclusion. Your posts have proven that much… :rolleyes:

Oh, and you have to be sure to avoid stories like the one we’re commenting on to keep your illusions alive, I should have mentioned that earlier. Toyota isn’t the most recalled brand over the last several years for nothing…

I LOVE WATCHING TOYOTA GO DOWN THE TOILET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL FOCKING YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F TOYOTA!!!!!!!!!!!! F JAPAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F ALL YOU MOTHER FOCKERS WHO BOUGHT THEIR POS VEHICLES!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAH GO GET YOUR SORRY ASSES RUN OVER BY YOUR RUNAWAY POS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is GM Country!!!!!!!!!

WHere is that scumbag motherfocker Dr Phill? Hey ****munch, whatya gonna go spin this one as now you coksucking pos Toyota humper!!!

The rest of us are loving the fact that your precious japcrap is blowing up in your sorry face. You and the rest ot toyotanation need to pack it up buddy. Game is over, you and the rest of your sorry ass focks need to get out of the Country. You don’t belong here, never have.

Be American. Buy American. Don’t buy Toyota

I wish there waqs an ignore feature… NMOFGM is an idiot…

injunraiv – I completely agree with you on your last post.

You said it, Toyota isn’t the most recalled brand in the last few years for nothing…confirms my point. I also didn’t say I had problem with all the other cars I’ve owned, I commented on build quality. Actually of that group, the worst built were the CR-V and Civic, both of which were 2005 models. I wouldn’t buy another Honda after those 2.

Well, this is not a surprise…

Toyota wanted to emulate the Big 3 for so many years. I guess all they had left to integrate into their strategy was The Recall.

The VWs drove great, but had tons of squeaks and rattles after a few months, they were from 03 and 04. The Chevys weren’t the best built, but I never had a serious problem with either, the Cavalier was a 98 and the Blazer a 2001. The Escape I got last year so I can’t comment on reliability yet, but it does have an annoying squeak coming from the front driver’s side wheel upon moving from a stop that the dealer can’t fix.

Hey everybody,Ford SUCKS! This is so bad,I would even wish this would happen to Ford. If the gas pedal don’t get ya,you’ll burn up!

03T4R, that annoying squeak is called “peeling out.” Try not to hit the accelerator so hard.

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Just kidding.

Toyota can go straight to hell

gotta love new cars. I love cleaning up the mess after they crash. plenty of plastic and crap everywhere. The vehicles I see catch on fire the most are Lexus’s and cadillacs. go figure toyota’s “fly by wire” system would fall apart just like the rest of the plastic on them.

03T4R;

Ok, maybe you’re not the dooshcanoe I though you were after your first post. I can see you’re at least trying.

‘Build quality’ is another nebulous marker in my opinion. Is this where you’re measuring door gaps, how nice the plastic on the dash feels, etc? It means nothing when the truck rusts out from under you in 5 years, though.

Once again, I’m glad you like your Toyota. So far my favorite car ever is a Pontiac and my favorite truck is a GMC. So what? It doesn’t mean these are the best vehicles ever produced, it means I like them the best – and that might have nothing to do with ‘build quality’. Maybe I like the exhaust note, or just the way they look. Hell, maybe they were just the right color. It doesn’t mean GM is the best manufacturer, or that any other manufacturer’s stuff is below par.

And none of this has anything to do with Toyota and unintended acceleratioon.

Fordman, you must be either mental or retarded . You hope this happens to Ford products? Are you that young and idiotic to want people to die so a car company you dont like gets a bad rap? I really hope you are not over the age 13 which I know you are not and hopefully as you get older you will realise what a moron you are.

The part that I find most amusing is that they go ahead and say they will be changing the accelerator PEDALS yet claim the issue is with the loose FLOOR MATS. Also, if the floor mats are so loose how can they possibly hold the accelerator pedal to the floor? Stupid japanese ****tards.

They are changing to pedals that have a different shape than the original, so the floormat won’t get caught so easily.

But since we know this won’t fix the real problem, I wonder why they would throw millions after it?

Crap, the answer hit me after I hit the button. My guess is they will fix the real issue while the vehicle is in the shop, and they’ll do it secretly. Then again maybe my tinfoil hat is too tight…