Lucky for Toyonda, they don’t have to deal with this. These cars (well trucks/crossovers) are some of GM’s biggest selling and most profitable vehicles (Lambdas are selling out fast, and GMT-900s are still getting 100,000s of sales). Imagine if Toyota’s plant that produces the Camry and its twin (the Lexus ES) gets closed down. Is this right or fair in any way? I don’t think so

not fair, but it’s something GM has to deal with now. I think the union should give the company relaxed absenteeism rules for job security.

Sigh…when will this sh!t end?!? GM’s patience must be running extremely low with the incompetent monkeys at UAW.

And the UAW wonders why their jobs are flowing to Mexico, and now China…

It’s a good time to strike – GM has more then enough inventory. BTW, to all management lovers I would like to remind that GM is still loosing money and while blue collar stiffs are being pinched and dimed Lutz and Putz are getting paid millions for losses THEY created. I am not sure if TOYONDA excutives who make moeny for shareholders are compensated so lavishly. The reason TOYONDA has no problems of that sort is that their management required to care about their working stiffs, not screw them and unions are not required there to protect workers.

JJt why are there assholes who think we do nothing(but make GM billions) and gay4me jobs go to Mexico because its cheaper to manufacture(big ****ing duh) and dont act like your job is safe from outsourcing too bitch, autonut i totally agree, 1c3d0g you suck and your handle sucks too, the UAW and GM are married, Till death do us part, and to all you highly educated assholes, i guess you picked the wrong field to work in huh, that paper on the wall means DICK in the real world, but have fun taliking about it with your paerents at dinner. Mexico is no better than China in human relations but Americans want to boycott the Olympics, BULL****.

autonut, i think you have a good point there. that’s something i think we should learn from them sushi eatin folks over there.

it basically comes down to “you take care of me and i’ll take care of you” (toyota) not “work for me and i’ll screw you good while i’m making even more money” (the big 3) but wait, come to think of it.. that’s how the commies do it. “you come heere wok foe me foe noe maney and make ****ty toys, and still go wok at massage polar at night foe happy endings and no fli lice foe you” (china)

The only fag who picked the wrong profession is you, 400horseSS. Making $30 an hour pumping screws into sheetmetal, and then having your company **** in your mouth doesn’t sound like a sensible career move. I would rather enjoy the prestige and respect I command at work coupled with my $300,000 a year salary. And the paper on my wall says “**** YOU 400HORSESS”

Deanster **** you and your prestigious job and the paper on your wall means your good at licking ass and balls, congrats

I agree that GM management screwed up but, the UAW needs to die. NOW. I know several former UAW workers and they really are lazy ass uneducated mofos. They’re all high school dropouts! I’m going through the trouble of getting a proper education and I’ll be dammed if I don’t eventually get compensated better than they did.

To me this looks more like a class struggle. When unions were originally formed, college educated people were rare. Unions were a way for ‘everyman’ to get respect and be treated fairly for a solid middle-class wage, while the wives stayed home and raised the kids. The middle class in America is a much different group today. There are two people working two jobs to earn the same effective wage, and both are college educated. If you don’t fit this mold, you will be left behind in the lower class. Data shows union membership at an all-time low. Sad, but a sign of the times. The American dream is not gone, but it has a new face. The fair wage for simple, repetitive work, requiring no education, will get lower and lower. Foreign countries have millions of these people to compete with us.

autonut – I would agree that GM has more than enough inventory of the full-size SUVs, but definitely doesn’t have enough of the Lambdas. Lambdas (along with Malibu, CTS, G8, etc are all products that cannot be kept on the lots – like I said, imagine if the Camry plant workers go on strike, it’s different than if the Tundra plant goes on strike where demand is low)

400SS: Not sure what your beef is with me, but I know that this is actual real work that goes on in these factories. I think there are many people here who are jealous of the implied “manliness” of blue collar work, and would be more comfortable if auto workers were outsourced.

I say management should have, when times were good, made stock concessions to the UAW, therefore aligning the interests of the two sides.

C6: “I know several former UAW workers and they really are lazy ass uneducated mofos.”

the key word being “former.”

UAW needs to make sure the bad apples lose their jobs first

No beef JJT, but **** Deanster and golf4me and wannabec6racer, just listen to the dumbass comments by the pillars of america the college educated, what B.S.

we do real work you professional pussies.

400horseSS, you might do some “real work” but, really it’s not worth $50 an hour, and that’s becoming more and more apparent. The UAW served it’s purpose in the 30’s, but sadly, they’ve demanded themselves into a huge hole. If you want America to be like the union-run EU, then that’s fine, but you will be out of work along with 10% of the rest of the population, paying 60% of your wages in taxes, and paying $9/gl for gas. That’s just the way it is in today’s world where just about anything can be built anywhere by anybody. Factory work these days, especially in a modern factory where robots & conveyers do all the heavy lifting is really only worth about $15/hr in wage & benefits, maybe $20 at most. How can anyone justify a PhD in engineering making less money than a guy mopping the floor in the factory? To anyone with half a brain, it makes no sense at all, but that’s what goes on in the Detroit 3. The executives making the money now all had to endure seeing HS dropouts making as much or more money than they for most of their career, and now they are getting their revenge. Not saying it’s right, but it is what it is. I’ve worked with several upper-management types in Detroit, and believe me the resentment toward the union pricks is deeeep. They are the decision-makers. They are the ones who can determine where components come from. The union’s days are numbered if they don’t wise up and realize that they are not as important as they think they are. I know for a fact that every Det3 is trying to find a way to shut down each and every NA plant, and they are all hoping they can last the 20 or so years it will take to do that. Every time one of these silly little strikes happens, it just adds more fuel to the fire.

BTW- us “professional pussies” have the option to buy the cars you do “real work” on, or cars from anywhere else in the world…so I’d be careful not to **** where you eat, pal.

You do “real work?” You ****ing faggot, you sit around and drill screws for outrageous pay and benefits, effectively paralyzing the entire auto industry with your incessant whining and bitching for more.

A greedier bunch of commie ****os could not be found anywhere else on the planet. Unlike your dumb ass, I don’t have a safety net nor benefits at work. The only sure thing I have is determination and professional integrity. When things go sour I don’t cry like a ****ing bitch, I look for other work.

Asshole. **** you. And **** you too Jabari, you monkey-assed goochslurping rapist.

Hey douchebags just because you majored in 17th century British literature and now wait tables at TGI Fridays doesn’t mean you should **** on men who do real work.

I can’t wait until outsourcing and offshoring takes its toll and the dollar collapses. All the pompous pricks working with abstract, intangible crap will yield to the working class. Your BS computer science degree or CPA title can be outsourced to India and China, but you will always need your neighborhood plumbers and electricians, who can make 80k a year doing real work.

Funny, I was going to say the same thing about autoworkers…

All I have to say is good! Strike ! Even if these Gm’s are selling (which they have plenty on the lots) they are not doing their job as far as taking import buyers to switch
I have been seeing Malibu’s but not nearly as much as I see the new Accord.I was on vacation in NY and I went to the Auto show. I got in one and its not better than a Camry and not ,nearly as good as the Accord. I havent driven one yet but a friend of mine has a rental Malibu (which is what its meant for anyway) and he likes it but I asked him would he trade his Camry in for it and he replied ‘ Uhh NO” LOL
Keep in mind this guy used to buy GMs in the 80’s and early 90’s before he woke up and realized the Japanese had superior more reliable products

Deanster nobody in North America knows what a gooch slurper is bitch, i obviously hit a sensitive spot.

iglesias294, U da man.

Golf4me, suck my ashy black dick.

Mine too.

Post #18 is the truest **** ever spoken.

trip5 i hurts me to say this but your right.

I can’t wait until outsourcing and offshoring takes its toll and the dollar collapses. All the pompous pricks working with abstract, intangible crap will yield to the working class. Your BS computer science degree or CPA title can be outsourced to India and China, but you will always need your neighborhood plumbers and electricians, who can make 80k a year doing real work.Comment by iglesias294, posted on April5 at 7:03 pm

It only effects those with less education, those with B.S. papers will continue to work with out a care in the world, and degrade those who do work that those (pussies) think they are to good to do. Have fun cleaning that A4 avant fags, that is what you drive right Deanster and Wannabec6.

You do “real work?” You ****ing faggot, you sit around and drill screws for outrageous pay and benefits, effectively paralyzing the entire auto industry with your incessant whining and bitching for more.

A greedier bunch of commie ****os could not be found anywhere else on the planet. Unlike your dumb ass, I don’t have a safety net nor benefits at work. The only sure thing I have is determination and professional integrity. When things go sour I don’t cry like a ****ing bitch, I look for other work.

Asshole. **** you. And **** you too Jabari, you monkey-assed goochslurping rapist.

Comment by Deanster The real world could give a flyng **** (my jersey boys tought me that) about your online degree bitch.

And according to South park Canada is on strike for more money, hahahahha anada is a ****ing joke.

canada

Funny, I was going to say the same thing about autoworkers…
Comment by tzu13, posted on April5 9:44pm Thats because you’re a bitch.

Look at this little faggot defending his drill routine! HAve fun lining up in the soup kitchen when you get canned, ladyboy! LOL! Cheers ****face!

Deanster you went out like a bitch, have fun getting you nails done homo.

Deanster your like womens sports, nobody cares.

Nice thread. Once you discard the derogatory stabs on both sides there are some good points. 400horse is right in that a qualified tradesman will never be out of work. Deanster is right in that it generally takes education to make the really big bucks. Problem with autoworkers is that in most cases their skills are not portable. Problem with the rich is their egos tend to rise proportionally with their salaries.

D-bagger I dont know why you talk about dicks and ass all the time you remind me of that fat dude n Superbad, i bet you sit around all day and pencil dicks and balls you flamer.

Thanks for the summary, johnnycanuck. I don’t like corp exec, but I think unions have seen its time especially when just about every non-unionize professions lose things like pension and make less. Medical benefit is a joke on most job nowadays. It’s about time unions lower their “expectation.” We’re all “Human Resources” not personnel anymore.

‘We’re all “Human Resources” not personnel anymore.’ Amen sharpie. Gawd I hate that term.

Yes, 400, former meaning they’re ****in RETIRED. The point is that they were in the UAW at one time and they’re high school drop outs. Case closed.

You must have the greatest job in the world don’t ya, people like you keep the economy strong huh, you’re a waste, people like 400 and myself obviously make more than you and you cant stand it, just because you and deanster take baths together does’nt you have to agree on everthing.

Ill wipe my ass with your college diploma, and the unemployment office is full of your kind.

Well, Id have more time to respond, but I am off to a meeting to figure out how to send more jobs to mexico where the UAW cant rearend us.

For someone who claims to make $300K Deanster spends an awful lot of time on these boards, dont you think?

And why he concerns himself with people like me who make 60k.

Thatguy’s comments are typical of corporate america.

might in the end even help GM… means quite some cars that will not rot in their shipping lots… better not build them in the first place!

“I got in one and its not better than a Camry and not ,nearly as good as the Accord.”

yeah, well I actually DROVE the cars, and I concur with the vast majority of automotive critics on the subject.

Johnny: You’ve done very well in outlining what’s going on.

JJM, you know fluffer is never going to admit anything different… And I agree – Johnny seems a very smart canuck!

Deanster, makes 300k a year. Now that i funny. Yes I know anyone can be anything over the interent. Your probably some young fat punk like triplefagboy. The unskilled and the white collars of America are the ones who are screwed. Those with trade will always be employte and employable. Just ask the guy/girl w/that MBA who just lost a job in the mortgage business. When the lower wage folks fail, it always trickles up from there. The highest precentage of those losing there homes make less then 50k a year because of job loss, guess who gets effeted after that? Gte off you temple Deanster you little ****.

Just like lamboz owns his own business
Thats funny

Why don’t lambozgetalife, jabari, and 400horse****ssucked get together and play cum on the cookie? It’s a game befitting of three little faggot UAW homos making $30 an hour.

True, I can say I make 10 billion a year, this is the internet. I couldn’t care less if anyone believes me or not, it’s irrelevant to the conversation. What’s crystal clear is that sisterfisting ****ing UAW queers like yourselves should get tested for AIDS. You can only fist your sisters and mothers so long before the long arm of the law holds you down and forces it’s long **** down your throat, spilling its goo down your esophagus,.

So your a liar that has urges to fist his sister, just stay away from the elementary schools fag.