You are cutting your own throats, fools. Your time is coming.

Anyone else see the UAW circling the drain?

Soon it will be the UOW… United Out-of Workers…

If GM makes it out of all of this alive Rick Wagoner & Bob Lutz will come out as leaders above even the likes of Iaccoca, Ghosn, and just about anyone else you can name. The UAW is fighting their turnaround plan every step of the way.

I really doubt Lutz will have anything to do with the UAW strikes.

“Anyone else see the UAW circling the drain?”

We can only hope.

“Soon it will be the UOW… United Out-of Workers…”

Nice!

You would think, with the way the US is so gung-ho for Corporate Protectionism lately, that the Government would be stepping in and giving the UAW an ultimatum. Get your **** together or be dissolved.

Wagoner and Lutz have already gone down in history as the greatesrt Automotive leaders of all time. GM has always been the greatest car company in the world and both Rick and Bob make things just that much better. It takes a world class attitude to be the world class outfit. And Gm lays the rest of the world to waste.

This really is unbelievable. GM is finally getting some good product out there that’s actually selling well and these idiots give them a kidney-punch.

400horseSS, please explain how strikes like this prove to be beneficial? I’d think that the intense animosity that the GM execs have towards the UAW are spelling their imminent doom, and rightfully so.

I agree peolpe fighting for a standard of living are moronic, note to the UAW, dont fight for ****, go out like bitches, remember UAW fighting never solves anything, fire ALL union workers today, everybody go corporate or go jobless. ALL UNIONS SHOULD FOLD TODAY. I have a college degree so i can comment on this situation. Ship every union job to Mexico and Overseas.

What would happen if GM just let the contracts run out? Really - why bother showing up to negotiate with a group whose goal is to get you to agree to let them fück you worse than they are fücking you now? Just let the contract expire, offer jobs at a fair market wage, and if they aren’t taken then advertise teh openings.

I’d trade 4 months of pain for a lifetime of freedom any day.

The unions are really screwing them up. I wonder if they realize that they’re there to help the workers, and that if you **** over the company, you do the same to the workers?

‘horsey’, you’re overpaid.

It’s only a matter of time before GM takes drastic measures and decides to move the entire auto production elsewhere. UAW, you’re playing with people’s bread and butter here!

Funny, the UAW fans alway love to blame the OEMs for designing crappy products for their failures, but now that they have decent products to make, they don’t want to make them! Too funny. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I wish someone would stand up to the union, and simply hire non-union replacements for all their work. Too late for the OEM’s now that they’ve once again locked themselves into 3 years of lousy labor deals, but maybe a supplier can do it. The union theory was valid back in the old days where stuff could be hidden from the public, but now there is no real reason for the unions, and they know it. The best plants in the country (transplants like Honda, Nissan, BMW) are non-union and are doing just fine without them. Any little grievance gets dragged through the media, and the pay is more than fair. UAW is really looking like a petulant little child these days, and it’s really going to bite them in the ass, as no one anywhere but the rust belt has any simpathy at all for them. If the US is going to have a US-based auto industry, the UAW has to radically change their attitude, or step aside, simple as that.

UAW sadly soon to be Unemployed Auto Workers

I agree impulsive $600 a week is ridiculous, and you are perfectly within you r right to judge how much we should be paid, can you imagina a world without unions I can Ican smell it, it smells wonderful.

These union strikes are so pathetic. Instead of standing around with your little sign, like they did 60 years ago, why don’t you go something productive since your taking the day off anyway. Go cut your grass or something. Don’t pace around in circles like you have nothing you could be doing. You’ll have plenty of time to stand around once your jobs go to mexico.

Golf4me, YOU should be the one to stand up to unions, from the highest mountain to the streets marching holding hands with other Anti-union haters, I support your cause wholeheartedly.

Hemi you’ve been exposed as a full of **** asshole by 187out, so you have no credability.

Im joining you guys, the real backbone of America, corporate suckasses.

I mean can you believe these ****ers, in the days of rising food, fuel, tuition, the greedy leech blood sucking pirate ****s dont want to take a 50% pay cut, un-****ing-believable.

Well, when you’re getting WAY overpaid, a 50% pay cut should only be fair. That only brings it back down to fair market value.

It’s no wonder US car companies have a difficult time competing when they can’t afford to put higher quality materials in their products. Compare a $25K Malibu to a $25K Accord and you’ll see differences in the grade of materials used in the interior. All because the US car companies have to pay for this UAW crap.

400ss, do you really believe, with all of the plant closures and layoffs lately, that the UAW is in any way protecting their members jobs? A wage guarantee isn’t worth much when you’re standing in the unemployment line.

Those plants are closed because those vehicles are irrelevent, unless you want a Safari/ Astro van or a 2 door blazer.

Ever heard of retooling? It is possible to build a new vehicle in an old plant.

6ix, I totally agree, if we take a 50% paycut cars and trucks will be drastically reduced too, imagine if they paid Mexicans $3 to build $45,000 Avalanches, oh wait they do.

ThatssoRaven those plants are 80 years old without A/c, why retool when you can shift to another plant to utilize capacity.

What’s so uncredible about me? I never said I lived in FL when I worked for a Nissan supplier retard. People do move for work you know, not like union members. Face it, these guys are striking what seems like everyday. With all the walking they do in circles while they’re striking, they could be walking to work and saving gas! Just because your hung up on working in a union doesn’t mean you have to brainwash people that WORK for a living. And everything I said about being an engineer in an automotive plant that I have done and seen was 100% the fact, and it was NON-UNION and the WORKERS wanted it that way! You live up north, all the work has left or is on its way out because of unions. I’ll tell you what. Tell me your birthdate and for your birthday I’ll get you the movie “Hoffa” since I know your such a nerdy movie guru. Then you can watch the “good ole days” of your disgraceful greedy organization.

Union members dont move, come to Wentzville and spew that bull**** to the Linden Jersey and Baltimore guys and girls retard, and I dont agree with everything the union does, management created this and want US to pay for it, **** that and **** you.

Get a Globe Missouri is in the Mid-west Col. custer.

I think it’s funny how these UAW dudes walk out on the job like it’s their break time or something. Then they bring their lawnchairs and coolers like it’s a tailgate party. When they walk out, they should deduct a vacation day, I could be just as greedy a boss as they are union members. Now give me my free money!!!

BTW your hero Dick Wagoner has a legacy of shedding plants and 36000 jobs, veba, so mission acomplished.

Learn American hisory Hemi its called “peaceful protest” if you agree with it or not, now im waiting for your boyfriend D-bagtugjob.

^history

What about the Airline pilots walking the line TODAY, should they be fired to.

Jeesh, 400horseSS must be one of the fellas on strike!

there should be strikes or protest at the gas stations for those damn gas prices

Ok 400, your a union member, so why are you not at work? Hmmmmmm, because your a lazy mofo? Or are you lounging in the picket line with your laptop? Oh, I’m at my desk at WORK just to save you some time from trying to think of ways to bash me. It must rain everyday in wankerville or wherever, because you aure are inside alot.

Actually 6ix im sitting at home collecting sub pay because the AAX strike.

Jumpofit, you ARE a god.

Hemi is such a homo, and im sitting at home jacking off to pics of you moms autopsy.

^ Damn

Bless you Hemi

Whatever floats your boat dude.

What an intricately sewn ****storm. I don’t have much of an opinion about unions, but I’ve certainly heard alot. The common statement is, “they used to be good, not anymore.” I’m begining to believe that.

Forumites, I present to you a typical Union worker/striker….400horseSS. Can I get a round of applause!!??

I’ll bring the beer……

Dont like us dont support us or tell my boss.

Come on 400, your sitting at home with NOTHING to do? Go cut your grass, plant some shrubs, or clean your car. Do you need a union to do all that?

I should be fired right now.

I have a NEW house and it hasn’t been graded yet, and its about to rain, and you should do something productive at work seeing that your at work, but thanks for caring.

-clap-clap-clap-clap-

While 400HSS sits at home and -fap-fap-fap-fap-’s.

A union is only useful if it is of actual benefit to the employer and employee. I don’t see them benefiting either.

As you may have heard, the Bush Administration said each and every
one of us would now get a nice rebate. If we spend that money at
Wal-Mart, all the money will go to China. If we spend it on gasoline
it will all go to the Arabs. If we purchase a computer it will all
go to India. If we purchase fruit and vegetables it will all go to
Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala. If we purchase a good car it will
all go to Japan. If we purchase useless crap it will all go to
Taiwan and none of it will help the American economy.

We need to keep that money here in America, so the only way to keep
that money here at home is to buy beer, guns, prostitutes, and
cigarettes, since those are the only businesses still in the US.

I never said I didn’t like any union members as a person, they need to EARN their $50 an hour. I’ve worked much harder for much less, and that’s not a complaint, it’s something that I am in a weird way proud of. I want Americans to keep their jobs, everyone here in the South has a good job in manifacturing without a union at THEIR choice! Don’t blame me, I wish I had a ticket to ride that gravy train like you and the other UAW dudes have.

For the Umpteeth time we make $28.68 not $50, please get the facts straight Hemi, you claim to work in plants so you damn well know nobody in that bitch make $50 an hour.

And that speech about you job, that was deep bro sniff, sniff

Your right, because it’s non-union, the plants described here are making, or wanting to make, anywhere from 30-70 an hour. Another thing I don’t understand, if you are off work because of the strike but you WANT to work, why don’t you just go in?

these unions are just ****ing everything up.

Ok I see that we can have a productive conversation, AAx supplies the rear ends and some steering components for the full size vans we make, and I work production, no parts no work.

I see… you could go looking for hot chicks though, that’s what I’d be doing.

What you guys dont understand I personally take pride in the vehicle I make, hell my neighbor just bought one, dont judge me or other workers from a handful of **** ups.Or what I say on here.

I have a hot chick Hemi and the bitch is wearing me thin. Wayyyyyyyyyyy TO MUCH TIME TOGETHER.

This would be a good time to snag another or two while she’s gone…..

And wind up like Bobbitt, I think she has OnStar on me.

So you see what im saying about all this anti union ****, there is no way we can afford the lifestyle we live on $14 and i dont have kids besides my SS, you gotta fight to keep what we got, me personally im fine making the money i make and any more would just be greedy, ive lived a very good life because of GM.

Even my plant manager said we’re the last of the breed, everybody after us is making $14 to do the same jobs, it sucks for them but they know that coming in and should’nt expect more.

‘horsey’, not to be a jerk but I think $28+ is too much for that line of work.

Thats nice what you think.

Wow 400horse****ssucked, it’s like you against the world! I never saw one asshole post so furiously to prove a (non)point.

In any case, have fun on welfare fag! LOL!

400, is that all you make for sucking someone’s bell-end and getting your asshole penetrated? 29 bux an hour?

I love laughs … ‘Deanster’ rules this roost.

‘horsey’, you should think it is nice because everyone agrees that it’s just a matter of time, fighting or not, that your wage will be a thing of the past. Just like US supremacy.

Impulsive ill worry about that when it happens just like any body else.

Deanster suck my dick as always.

Godamn, what went on while I was gone.

You score a new chick today?

HHR- Every one in the south also makes low slave wages unlike the Union workers. **** the south!

I hear your point 400horse but GM doesn’t want to pay the UAW. The UAW is going to lose this fight. Each strike makes the UAW look worse. I would be pissed if my employer wanted to cut my salary by 1% let alone 50% but at the same time I think that I would have enough faith in my skills to find another job. Or maybe branch out and do some tree service, sell insurance, borrow some money and run a subway or something. Constantly striking for a job that is not guaranteed is just delaying the inevitable.

ha

GM needs to give those workers whatever they want whether it is a new trailer or old GM parts so they can take the Monte Carlo off the cinder blacks in the yard.
GM needs those crossovers to be made

That is yankee as hell, cinder blacks, you forget to spell yard as yad.

Better yet it sits on old batteries

As eloquent as the sentiment may be… I’ve said it many times before, and I’ll say it again - **** the UAW.

I’ve never seen such a group of people hell-bent on rather having nothing than something… it almost seems they’d rather have no GM at all than make any concessions - almost when a kid breaks a toy rather than share it with others… it’s the, “If I can’t have it, nobody will” mentality.

Every time contract talks come around, I’ve always said the same thing… GM shouldn’t even come to the table - they should throw their offer out there and say “Take it or leave it.” There was a time when unions had a lot of public support, but not anymore… and it all comes down to the fact that the UAW members act as if they have this sense of entitlement… when in fact, they’re not entitled to **** - not in this day and age… not in the current economy.

Take it or leave it… and feel lucky there’s even something being offered to take! If you don’t like the offer, there are plenty of folks out there who gladly will. Whether any UAW members like to hear it or not… they’re all vastly overpaid for what they do. $28/hr?? Does that include the ridiculous amount of benefits union workers receive? I’m thinking not… even if there were no benefits given, you all are in the same tax bracket as me… which means on $28/hr the least any of you are clearing (for the single, no dependents of you) is about $42,000 a year - NET! Then with your benefits package, you all are making a whole hell of a lot more than that… and it’s ridiculous.

“Oh… but of course we’re going to fight to not have our wages slashed… how will we continue to live the lifestyle which we’re accustomed!?!” You’re wages will be slashed to reflect the job which you do and will fall more into line with other manufacturing/factory jobs… If you can’t continue the life which you’re accustomed, you’ll either have to change your lifestyle or get a second job… plenty of others do it - you’ll survive. Just because you’ve always been paid something in the past, doesn’t mean you deserve to be paid the same in the future… but the worst part is that none of them/you are even content with the same… you always want MORE! UAW members are already overpaid for what they do and all they want is more… Maybe if you spent as much time actually working as you all do bitching, moaning, striking, and taking exorbitant amounts of sick/personal/vacation days… then maybe - just maybe you all might deserve $28/hr without benefits.

But it’s okay… it’s not going to matter that soon anyway because they’re all going to end up screwing themselves anyway. Eventually GM (and the rest of Detroit… personally, I think it’s going to be Chrysler who does so first) isn’t going to play ball anymore and they’ll come to the realization that it will be more beneficial to the company to simply fire every UAW member, shut down for 6-12 months, start a massive hiring campaign, and replace the entire lot. THEN… if current UAW members are really lucky, GM might offer each one of them their jobs back but as non-union employees.

And it will all be good riddance when it happens…