to bad it’s so ugly to look at. I bet the bugatti veyron would whoop it’s ugly ass.

:drool:

I don’t think the Veyron would whoop its ass. They have already done tested with that car. This car is just that amazing.

The bugatti is a pretty “husky” cat. Too heavy to brake that quickly.
This for me would be a nice commuter car

Man that’s one beast of a car. You’d have to get in shape to drive it. The interior (from what we saw) was very Spartan. Sick times though. I’d take one.

Pricing
The price of an Ultima GTR or Ultima Can-Am Roller is $89,000.

The price includes sea freight shipping from the UK to a US seaport of the customer’s choice, so long as the seaport is serviced directly fromthe UK.

The customer is responsible for US Customs clearance, import duty and overland transport from th seaport to the Rollers’ final destination.

In addition to the Roller the customer will also need a Chevrolet small block V8 and a Porsche G50 (or Getrag) transaxle. Once the customer has installed these, the completed car is ready for registration!

I would guess $175-$200k complete. Not the most attractive, but certainly not the ugliest. The performance…………..”The mind boggling 30-70mph time of just 1.8 seconds is further proof that the Ultima is so far ahead of any other car in terms of outright performance.â€?
“The GTR720 was fully road legal, road tyred and equipped with a standard 5 speed.”

UGLY? This is a fine looking supercar. Maybe not the best looking, but far from ugly. And it certainly moves. Really impressive from such a small manufacturer.

No turbos? No multi-valve heads with DOHCs?

Pushrod power baby! The beauty on an American pushrod V8. With so many aftermarket parts available, making far more power than this is just so easy…and not terribly expensive. Lightweight these days too.

que: More like British engineering know-how.

of course its ugly and bugatti actually got the veyron from 0-60 in 2.5 sec to 0-60 in 2.3 sec. and of course the bugatti has better brakes they had to get brakes which could withstand breaking from 252 mph.

anyway did you see the bugatti on the list at the end of the video… i dont think so.

The Veyron has achieved 60 mph from rest in 2.46 seconds, according to CAR magazine from a few months back. I guess the only explanation here is that they haven’t submitted the record yet to the Guinness Book.

It also reached 124 mph in 7.3 seconds. And it can do 250-0 mph in

And it can do 250-0 mph in

And it can do 250-0 mph in less than 10 seconds!!! Which leads me to believe it could possibly tie, if not beat, the Ultima’s time for 0-100-0.

(sorry for the stupid cutting off because of the less than sign i used instead of typing less than)

Hey “Shutup”,

Regarding the engine, you’d best read the article again. American Speed is, well, American. They’re an engine builder in Illinois who build high-perf Chevy engines.

No British engineering there, I’m afraid.

arguing whether the Bugatti is better than the Ultima GTR is irrelevant. One, the Ultima GTR is 5 times less expensive (once completed) than the Veyron and is a kit car. Two, the Veyron may not even stay in production. With that in mind, this beast is like an Exige on serious steriods (below avg market price high performance thrills)

The records are obvious for production cars, and the Veyron isn’t technically a production car yet, just go to http://www.bugatti-cars.com and do a little research…

It’s an eight-eyed, trifocal nerd boy. No wonder he’s so good with car engineering.
Too bad he’s hideous.

1) Ugly

2) You gotta import, transport, buy an engine, transaxle and build it? SKIP!

3) after all said and done, price tag of 175k-200k? I’d get a Gallardo spider, and be a sec slower with the roof down, navigation and Audi quattro.

@ que

If the engine is so fantastic why are there no American cars putting making these figures?

The Chevy block in cheap and readily availible. End of discussion. Any manufacturer worth their salt can knock out a tuned naturally aspirated engine making these sorts of numbers. It’s all about keep costs down.

Why cant you just accept that this an impressive feat of british engineering? The engine does not maketh the car… You certainly don’t see the Germans being idiots and trying to lay claim to the Zondas impressive performance do you?

It sums up the American car industry, Chevy make a good engine but it takes a British company to design/build a decent vehicle to properly take adavantage of it!!

Veyron 0-100 is 5.5, the Ultima is 5.3… don’t forget that…

Brit know-how, american v8 = marriage made in heaven

Oh and as for the price, in the UK the kit, excluding fitting is, iirc, £18.5k Then there’s labour (or DIY) and the engine (not too much to pay) so, really, this is a car worth getting in the UK.

Hey “Animal”, you can’t read? Where did I denying the fine British engineering in this car? The ENGINE is from American Speed, which is American. They’re an ENGINE builder in Illinois who build high-perf Chevy ENGINES. No British engineering in the ENGINE, I’m afraid.

Where such engines are legal in the US, they ARE used. Only very low production, specialized cars are allowed to use them here. Huge power, lightweight engines, low cost.

to thing2. i think it is relevant. who cares about price wen it comes to supercars. the enzo and pagani were on the list at the end so why cant u have the buggati. o ye i do think its a production car.

I am still more impressed with 0-100-0 under 13 sec in 1966 that a AC cobra did with street tires that were old bias plys and inadequate brakes.

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The kit is actually £15,635… that’s under $30,000 iirc, then engine etc.. bo!

The Bugatti Doesnt do 0-60 in under 2.5, it does it in just over. And the Veyron is a one year deal.

But the Caparo Freestream T1 will do 0-100mph in 5.0 seconds, faster than this car or the Bugatti. And it gets 33mpg, definitely a selling point in times of high gasoline prices.

bugatti is not a one year deal. they are thinking of making the bugatti veyron gt. which could reach speeds of 273mph.

The Veyron weighs a whopping 4160 lbs. 0-100-0 aside, the cornering dynamics of all that mass would make it pitiable on any roadcourse vs. the Ultima. And, even at 1001 bhp, the hp to wt. ratio of the Veyron with all its bulk is a bit inferior to the Ultima’s.
Next, Senior El Que, it is very challenging to build an N/A small block that’s any kind of smog legal with an output of 720 BHP. Without forced induction, you have basically compression ratio, displacement (406CID) and anemic two-valve breathing to work with. Pushrods will limit rpm, so we’re talking high compression and NASCAR degrees of valve overlap. And you’re gonna need about 104 Octane racegas to feed this without knocking. So, where you get the idea that “far more power than this is so easy” unless you add the blower that you obviously hold in disdain. All of which suggests, “baby”, that you get your engine facts from somewhere out in Area 51.
Lastly, the British have shown great skill in suspension tuning and rendering some beautiful sheet metal but not much else. The Elise handles great but is notorious for having knobs and other pieces fall off and roll around on the floor (what part of great engineering is that?). What should be simple things falling apart is as much a British legacy as “Suspension Tuned by Lotus”.
Frankly, at a whopping 720bhp and with ginormous discs and grippy modern pads, I don’t see this as so much of a “fine British engineering” accomplishment as it is a drag car style driveline with big brakes and some unrelated body work tacked on. What do you think a 10,000 hp nitrous-burning funny car with 8pot calipers might be able to do 0-100-0? If the car isn’t street legal (and with this 720HP motor, it ain’t), then there’s really no rules and the funny car is a perfectly valid contender. If it must be street registered, then the HP will drop about 150 horses and the Ultima will fall several places on the list. Someone mentioned the Shelby Cobra doing this in 13secs back in the 60’s. That era’s 427FE-powered car made perhaps 435bhp. Today I can buy/build a 510CID Cobra copy with a curb weight of 2,200 lbs making 750bhp. Me, not 20 British master engineers. And, I bet it can meet the Ultima’s posting. The Ultima is a better car than what this discussion is hung up on. A quick 0-100-0 time for a very light, hugely powered car, is really not even very interesting. Do it with street legal smog and bloody catalytic convertors and then maybe it will have something to crow about.

all the jornalists who have “actualy” driven the bugatti say that it handles brilliantly beacuse of its amount of grip. it has 4wd and huge tires. i dont care about power to weight. bugatti still the beast.

anways any of us here will neve rown either of these cas and would’t complain if someone was going to give you either of them just look at the story and dream that you want a car liek that be it that or something ou can make faster

hoe bout you shut ure stinkin face. sin it before ive seen all top gears and watch all the new ones on british television not you tube. anyway. i was just explaining that a heavy car with 1000 hp could beat the ultima and ithink u misunderstood. the bugatti can put down its power very well. speakin of top gear i quote from jeremy clarckson “the bugatti is just a bigger lotus elise”. so suk it biatch.

sounds like u know alot about cars but im only 12 so calm it.

“speakin of top gear i quote from jeremy clarckson “the bugatti is just a bigger lotus eliseâ€?. so suk it biatch.”

Because Clarkson is always right [/sarcasm]

Well you may not know this, but there is a new American car coming out that goes 0-100-0 in 9.2 and 0-100 in 4.9. It is powered by a W32 (4 V-8 engines) and weighs 4800 lbs. Oh, by the way, it has 1800 bhp and has a top speed of 305 mph.

Buggati Veyron result in 0-100-0 is 9.9 s.
Too slow for this car.