Comments on: VW planning more GTI variants, including diesel, high-performance models

By: nickkop

nickkop — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:17:44 +0000

hahah ive been there a lot before with my buddies…

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:46:34 +0000

I was kidding. I love all cars. It’s just a cobalt.
And yeah, I have a good buddy that has an 04 GLI, w basically what you have. Turbo inlet valve, APR Stage 2 tune, turbo back exhaust, CAI. It’s pretty quick. The Recaros are very nice and the BBS rims that came with the car are beautiful.

It’s funny because I actually do have a Cobalt SS. I bought it because it’s affordable, and quick for a 4cyl, and I do participate in autocross and track events, so it seemed to be a bargain performance car.

But I actually do rant and rave about my friend’s GLI. Overall the quality and fit, and finish of his GLI is way better than my balt. The interior pieces are 10X better.

It’s almost funny because sometimes he wants my car because it’s slightly quicker, and I want his car because overall it’s a nicer ride…

By: nickkop

nickkop — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:27:13 +0000

NFS : i do see what you are saying..that is one impressive cobalt… i would love to drive one.. but i would still probably never buy one if i were looking at any of its (more expensive) competitors

By: nickkop

nickkop — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:14:34 +0000

dude did you read what i said ??? the numbers are important but definitely not everything, and you know it.. so stop being so salty

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:05:08 +0000

Apparently you haven’t seen C&D’s 2008 Lightning lap.

The Cobalt SS/TC pulled a quicker lap time vs a Lotus Elise SC, EVO MR, STI, Challenger SRT-8, Lexus IS-F just to name a few… here you go. I think a Cobalt SS/TC will have no problem taking on a R32…

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/the_lightning_lap_2008_feature

You asked for it…

By: nickkop

nickkop — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:18:16 +0000

FYI : I have personally owned many sport compact or sport luxury cars (most or all of which with many performance upgrades ), and also sold cars so have driven many others.. so i do speak from some experience, as well as having many friends who are fellow enthusiasts… previous cars:

1997 HONDA CIVIC coupe with JDM H22A DOHC VTEC motor (header, exhaust, filter, hondata, coilovers = 200+ wheel HP , 166 + lb-ft torque)

1998 Audi A4 1.8 Turbo 5-speed Quattro (stock)
2002 Audi S4 2.7 BiTurbo 6-speed Quattro (coils, exhaust, apr chip, turbo inlet bi-pipe )
2004 VW Jetta GLI 1.8 turbo speed ( FMIC, APR custom tune, turbo-back exhaust, cold-air, inlet pipe)
2003 Vw GTI 1.8T 6-speed (APR custom tune, cat-back exhaust, cold-air, inlet pipe, struts/springs)
2007 VW Jetta GLI 2.0 FSI Turbo DSG 6 speed (APR chip)

2006 Jetta TDI DSG… lol… i will get back into the scene…

By: nickkop

nickkop — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:04:47 +0000

btw Need4 speed,, just wondering what do you drive? or what have you driven in the last decade or so that you can legitimize your opinions with ??

By: nickkop

nickkop — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:03:35 +0000

granted i would much prefer an STI or EVO over an R32,,,, now when we get this GOLF PLUS (R20) and R42 or whatver the 2.5 turbo AWD beast of a golf will be… ohhh shit… byte bye… americans.. maybe even the japs.. even if for a couple of grand more up front

By: nickkop

nickkop — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:59:36 +0000

@ Need4Speed still : a cobalt will definitely not come close to “man handling” an R32 on a road course, or a twisty stretch or freeway (where the R32 was designed, iintended, and created to dominate within its class) while stll being the practical, entry-luxury (definitely not a cobalt appeal) hot hatch that it is.

By: nickkop

nickkop — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:55:06 +0000

Need4speed: ya but very few who look at an R32 look back at a friggin cobalt, not because it has much lower performance (acceleration) but because it (R32) is much more upscale, classier looking, better handling and higher -caliber automobile, personally if I were shopping for a GTI or esp. an R32, I would definitely look at some competitors ( WRX and STI, Ralliart and EVO) and not others for various reasons. I see the only real competitor for the HHR SS and Cobalt SS being the Dodge SRT-4, many true enthusiasts look at it this way: there is American Sport Compact and Import Sport Compact. Two different segments due to appeal and perceived quality. And i speak for many I am sure, not just myself.

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:54:31 +0000

Umm seeing that the R32 is sold in the U.S for over 30k, the only thing that it competes with as far as price range goes ends up being the Lancer EVO, and Subaru STi, which totally kick it’s ass.

Not to mention a FWD Cobalt SS Turbo for almost 10k less will also man handle a GTI and R32…

By: nickkop

nickkop — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:31:01 +0000

the R42 is an illogical name and whoever thought of that one needs a new job… if its a 2.5 called an R25… stick to your scheme… at least a R22 or something close.. but regardless of how illogically named it is, it will be a beast, and will embarass the american competion who are just about to catch up to the last generation of engineering… hhahaha .. just better keep it well under 35.. or you are pushing it and dont even bother… Yes I am American love my country.. but I am not in denial.. we make some shitty cars compared with the euros and japanese

By: Get Real

Get Real — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:40:57 +0000

Hey VW:

Less Models….More Quality. Sales will improve.

I wish I could speak German to explain this concept to them.

By: A4

A4 — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:27:54 +0000

I always thought a diesel GTI should have been called the GTDI
R42 is a dumb name, just stick to R25t or R5t for the cylinder count with the turbo.
And you better make sure there are three pedals this time around on the high performance models or you’ll be reliving the discount prices on the MKV R32′s. The MKIV’s sold out incredibly faster than the MKV’s and for good reason – 3 pedals and a 6 speed stick.

By: doghis

doghis — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:01:21 +0000

HHR SS….LOOOOOL
i allmost died laughing!!!
thanks GM! good one!

By: RagazzaCompetizione

RagazzaCompetizione — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:24:23 +0000

Amen to Stinky007 speaking the TRUTH.

By: andy

andy — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:02:15 +0000

to add with the HHR SS, both it and the Cobalt SS have a 290hp upgrade coming

By: Jordan

Jordan — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:58:51 +0000

sooo… why is it called the r42?

By: Need more oil for GM

Need more oil for GM — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:27:42 +0000

HHR SS

By: wakeNbake

wakeNbake — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:00:25 +0000

GM….please recommend a similar car in the GM line up if you don’t like the GTi.

By: ktulu

ktulu — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:52:11 +0000

By: Stinky007

Stinky007 — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:53:16 +0000

My opinion is they are unnecessarily complicating their line-up…
But I guess that is what the undecided youth in Europe want! Slow overpriced “performance” diesels…
I should know better, most of my friends think I’m “archaic” because I still thing the otto engine is a better performance engine. Lower weight, cheaper to maintain, higher power output per liter and per kg of engine. These rational arguments don’t seem to matter for the followers of the “Church of Diesel”, who think a few extra mpgs can make up for almost anything!

By: beatusmongous

beatusmongous — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:48:42 +0000

Hello, Jerry!

By: Need more oil for GM

Need more oil for GM — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:14:21 +0000

Ya, the sound of a VW engine self-destructing is legendary as is their reputation for UN-reliability.

By: RaineMan

RaineMan — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:08:53 +0000

VW definately needs to work on weight reduction. The current and previous-gen R32s would be a lot nicer if they weren’t so heavy.

I am sad to see the VR6 go though… the exhaust note those things make is legendary.

By: shaver

shaver — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:00:52 +0000

Hopefully some weight reduction will come with new chassis.

By: Need more oil for GM

Need more oil for GM — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:52:44 +0000

Tow teruck drivers rejoice More business!