Comments on: VW will not produce a road-going Golf TDI Hybrid

By: autonut

autonut — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:51:20 +0000

The math is wrong. The gasoline engine used in hybrids is usually 5 cycle Atkinson engine, not a regular Otto 4 cycle. Therefore even gasoline engine adds to the cost of hybrid, although I am not sure how much. Diesel generates torque at low rpm and that the benefit of it’s driving dynamics, but electric motor generates oodles of torque as well and they would cancel each other benefit.

By: Z06ified

Z06ified — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:09:27 +0000

I don’t know about $32k, but cost is the problem with hybrid diesels. Diesels add about $2k-$3k to the cost of a car, and hybrid technology adds another $3k-$5k. So you’re talking about adding up to $8k in cost for a diesel hybrid powertrain on an economy car. So an $18k VW Golf would cost $26k with a diesel hybrid system. It makes sense if you drive 30k miles or more a year, but less sense if you drive less than that.

By: shaver

shaver — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:07:25 +0000

Supercharged V6 in a Audi. Nooooooooooooooooo

By: Z06ified

Z06ified — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:06:58 +0000

Wrong again, RaineMan.

Anyway, VW was not the first with a diesel hybrid concept. GM was, with the 2005 Opel Astra diesel hybrid concept. It got 60 MPG.

RaineMan, name one gasoline powered hybrid that gets 60 MPG.

Actually, the very first diesel hybrid powertrain was developed by one of GM’s divisions, Electro-Motive Diesel, in the 1930′s, with the first diesel-eletric locomotives, a design which all new diesel locomotives still use today.

By: shaver

shaver — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:06:36 +0000

It would have to sell for $32K. Thats the problem.

By: RaineMan

RaineMan — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:45:08 +0000

Why bother with the diesel?

You can get comparable mileage from a gasoline hybrid and avoid the steeper fuel cost of using diesel.

By: meekin111

meekin111 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:22:05 +0000

frost, PSA plan to be selling diesel hybrids within 2 years so no, VW are not the first to think of this.

By: carbonsigma

carbonsigma — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:46:15 +0000

Yea, the biturbo S4 is returning!

By: A4

A4 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:54:38 +0000

its not going to be supercharged deutschetouring, youre an idiot
the biturbo is returning

By: nicetry

nicetry — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:09:12 +0000

deutschetouring1337, do you have any proof? I’m on several audi forums and so far I’ve heard both stories but no proof of either yet, personally I hope and believe it will be the TT engine as Audi is well experienced in the TT department, but so far there has been nothing but speculation so please enlighten me.

By: deutschetouring1337

deutschetouring1337 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:19:03 +0000

Nope its going to be a 3.0 litre supercharged V6. Sorry to burst your bubble. Audis focusing on fuel economy but it will be 3900ilbs (great power to weight/ please note sarcasm) and 340Bhp and a magnetic differential.

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:13:45 +0000

I’m confused. Are there issues with diesel start up as would be required in a hybrid powertrain? We’ve all seen the guys with the glow plugs waiting to light up their trucks especially in the cold. I wonder if that’s the obstacle.

By: frost

frost — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:18:59 +0000

I’m kinda let down that VW is the only car company to have really put a thought to this idea, if they improved on it, or other car makers worked on this I’m sure the they’d have the best hybrids out there with the high MPGs

By: manhertm

manhertm — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:53:20 +0000

^^^^The new S4 will have twin turbos again. I hope you were being sarcastic.

By: deutschetouring1337

deutschetouring1337 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:16:48 +0000

Another bummer and the new S4 will have a suprcharged V6. Go figure.

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:16:19 +0000

Haha

By: autonut

autonut — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:51:55 +0000

blokejoke, don’t be prejudice they can’t get gasoline engines right either in US.

By: blokejoke

blokejoke — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:48:32 +0000

They can even get the diesel’s right in the US let alone a diesel hybrid.

By: Blakkarr

Blakkarr — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:30:36 +0000

It can only be a thing of the past if it happens. It didn’t happen.

By: lambosrule25

lambosrule25 — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:15:54 +0000

They should have kept the TDI Hybrid

By: acura_el2000

acura_el2000 — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:55:34 +0000

hmmm