July21
Federal highway safety investigators are reviewing 25 cases over two years of steering knuckle fractures involving 2003 model year Hummer H2s, according to the Sacramento Bee. The component failure has resulted in several vehicles losing front wheels and subsequently crashing. When testing an H2 in 2002, the the Bee’s auto editor Mark Glover experienced a similar failure where a wheel fell off of the test vehicle. GM denies there is any problem with the component, which holds the steering arms in place. The automaker says the failures are the result of “crashes.” In the case of Iris Ziroli, bumping a post led to the complete loss of a wheel. “I thought I was so safe because the H2 is so huge and strong,” Ziroli said. “The way that Hummer fell apart in that drive-through was uncalled for.” In 2003, GM redesigned the component. However, the automaker denies it was due to failures. According to GM product safety spokesman Alan Adler, GM always wants to “improve its products.” [via Cars.com]
Hmmm.
I think a higher power was trying to tell us something…
I mentioned somewhere on this forum about Hummers being crap. Someone shot me down. I still say they have serious issues. My friends just burst into flame on I-95 and burned to ground.
trying to tell us to use bigger wheels !
What do you say about that GMrules? You don’t work at the Hummer plant do you?
Where is the GM rules guy?
GM Makes cars out of soda cans
I’ll take Toyota’s problems over GM’s problems anyday.
I find that amusing.
I dont like the H2.
The wheels were outsourced like the Explorer tires and the Corvette roof. I will say anything to obviate American manufacturers of any responsibility for their vehicles faults.
An other problem with GM cars! As usual, big cheapo cars. “GM always wants to “improve its products.” ” They NEED to improve their products and they still don’t. One day there will be enough people who see and understand what GM makes and GM wil close his doors…one day.
I saw a wheel fall off a Hummer on Lincoln in Santa Monica two years ago. Woman driver plowed over a Camry.
The Hummer H2 looks tough but the reality is that it is a piece of crap.
http://www.micom.net/oops/H2%20looks%20tough.jpg
Interesting how GM deals with it “crash damage not our fault” Toyota recently recalled tens of thousand of vehicles… Customer service anyone
It a chevy in drag no matter how much you say it a HUMMER
H2s suck.
Do you guy’s always shoot first and ask questions later ?????
Apparently the automaker will say anything except that it’s their responsibility to look into the matter seriously. Does this build trust in GM? I think not.
First with Corvette’s rooftop and now this H2 wheel? LOL, im loving this. There’s ur proof! GM makes ****ty vehicles!
…And people were paying how much for this thing?
LOL you really CAN drive the wheels off it!
Let this be a sort of karmic repayment for everyone in the Smart threads who said they needed bigger vehicles to be safe on American roads. At least Smarts don’t lose their wheels on the highway.
Sadly, #2 is right. All the vehicles
other than the H1 are junk. If you want to buy a real Hummer, hurry up and buy the Alpha. It’s the only real “battle-tested” Hummer out there (and even so it’s being blown to pieces by IED’s). But rest assured that it’s plenty strong in a “normal” car accident.
To # 6 Dear Dean, I’m sure Japanese cars don’t have problems like the Mitsubishi eclipse from the 90s don’t see too many on the road ,allot of them burned up. The junkyards are full of them, I read recently the more recent model before the current one still had fuel line problems. How about the Isuzu rodeos that were poorly designed and rolled over with almost no effort, anyone remember seeing those test videos with the bars shooting out of the car with the tires at the tip to keep them upright?. BTW Toyota had their third recall in 3 months that’s over or around 1.5 million cars by my count , only 1 of the recalls was mentioned on this site. I wonder why? One being a steering problem, another an accelerator problem again if I recall correctly. I’m sure some caused incidents, but again Toyota had the insight after the fact, and that’s all good PR in your eyes. Yet you still pounce on every blurb and beep out of the domestic camps. Then again as mentioned before most of those don’t make it on this site. ALL cars have imperfections. Anyhow why do we bash each other over problems some cars have. We should be talking on their best points . i.e. design, performance, looks, reliability, innovation etc. in cars that are out there that what this site is suppose to do. I know why, because it’s much easier to be a ten year old and say TOYota sucks , Honda sucks, or GM blows or Ford stinks. I have learned one thing in this place, you can’t reason with 10 year olds.
#20 LOLOL
right on firesq157
I want to know what the active military duty performance is.Need more info here.
#24 firesq157 Are you paid by LLN to give lectures or do you like to bore poeple to death. I got bored after two lines.
Hummers are gay and for people who have a problem with the size of their manhood. Sooner the company dies the better
( silently prays for GM’s rude awakening )
Do your friends think you are a putz?…………………………buy a Hummer and remove all doubt!
honda > you
“firesq157″ …
I said I’d take Toyota’s problems over GM’s problems anyday.
Are you illiterate?
Never spoke about any other manufacturers.
GM has produced **** for decades compared to Toyota, FACT.
And the fact that this behemoth, which like it or not has a reputation for toughness, has failed miserably … it is a potential deathtrap … I won’t bring up the ‘Vette’s separating roof … I would think GM has much farther to advance than Toyota.
Take your frustrations out on your kids, not me.
Yet another reason why GM needs to stop wasting money on this brand. The only thing consistant across the Hummer brand is their devotion to gas guzzling. Not a positive trait in todays market.
I am amazed on the amount of ignorant people out there and how many of them have computers….a car is merely transportation. Some people choose to spend $500 and some choose to spend $50,000 it’s all about personal preference if you don’t like a certain car then don’t buy it…..I have had a variety of vehicles my current vehicle is a H2 before that I had a Mercedes ml320. Mercedes quality blows any gm out of the water but I liked the concept of the H2 so I bought it and got rid of the ml, I am a true car lover and would drive a different car every day of the week if I could….to all of you tree hugging hippies and total losers out there if you think that we should all drive the same type of car, then move to another country, join or start your own dictatorship otherwise shut up about hummers or any other car that you don’t like this is America where we have the choice and the right to drive what ever gas guzzling vehicle that we choose.
mike why do you always take the extreme view of every issue on this site? It’s black or its white, you are a car lover or a tree hugging hippy and total loser, a Bush supporter or a terrorist. You seem unable to conceive of any shade of grey in any arguement and incapable of understanding any one elses pont of view, branding anyone who opposes you ignorant. Who is the dictator now? Oops! looks like it is you Mike. Isn’t that a symptom of some psychoses? I believe buying more than you need to just because you can is a crime against future generations of Americans who will curse your decisions and hate all of us for ruining their world.
nutter, you must have me confused with someone else on this site this is my first post….I oppose the willful destruction of peoples property….you can have an opinion, that is fine by me but when people start vandalizing vehicles because of the make that is crossing the line. I took my H2 to the dealer for service and the service advisor was telling me about a hummer that just came in for an inspection because the owner had a note on his car saying “welcome to hummer hell” they loosened all of his lug nuts…that is total bs and shows how many extremists there is out there want more proof go to fuh2.com. Let’s kill someone driving a H2 and others on the road by vandalizing it. these same fanatic’s talk about the hummers pollution, I live in the great northwest full of people driving old beaters that smoke like crazy burning oil and gas worse than a hummer…about a hummer’s size its shorter than most full sized SUV’s (excursion, suburban, escalade, ect) so how are they soo big don’t tell me that you have never seen dodge, ford, Chevy, Nissan pickups jacked way up in the air..There are more lifted trucks and Junkers here than there are hummers….oh I am sorry all those trucks come with 4 cylinders don’t they…..
mike, you seriously need to learn how to try to convey your opinion to people, because i stopped reading once you started lashing out against “tree hugging hippies, blahblahblah”. you just proved your own ignorance. i dont believe that someone so ignorant and childish, so stereotyping and calculated could even have obtained $50,000 in their lifetime to afford a piece of **** H2. So how about you stop blindly accusing and hating on groups of people who haven’t done **** to you, you’re hating on THEM because they dont like you’re car, they hate on your car because it gets 10mpg and releases huge amounts of noxious chemicals into the atmoshpere further helping along global warming. hmmm. i think i see who is right here, and its not mike.
Dean; everything you said was exactly right.
Toyota may have its fair share of recalls, but jesus look at what those recalls are! They’re so small in their level of seriousness compared to the GM failures: corvetter roofs flying off, hummer wheels falling off, these are extremely serious faults, much more serious than the problems toyota is recalling its cars for.
Fact: hummer h2’s have shoddy product quality and terrible reliability.
Fact: hummer h2’s are built off of the chevy tahoe platform which itself is pretty chintzy and of poor quality
Fact: this helps prove how crappy GM is and how irresponsible they are as well, this kind of issue is NOT something to be ignored,and yet they are doing just that, shifting the blame to someone else.
Typical. That’s why GM is going in the ****ter.
Hey pat, read line 37 It’s idiots like you that don’t read the whole story and go through life with their heads up their asses. Don’t be pissed off at me or others for being able to afford nice things….It’s people with your mentality that vandalize and destroy other peoples property out of jealousy and envy work harder in life bud and someday you can play with the big boys…..
The people who are vandalizing the Hummer vehicles deserve the disrespect they receive from people. You know the visual cliche in the movie EASY RIDER? The part where the country folks yell out “why don’t you get a haircut?” Then the carnage that follows? The Hummer vandals deserve that kind of brutality. Your morality is rubbish and you as human beings are ‘dreck’.
That is EXACTLY why I called for more information. Some greasebag hippie collective may be going around and removing parts from those Hummers.
Yer Der H-2 is only fer der overpaid actors and managers in Hollyvoood so day can run over the papparatzie! Yer
Once again GM is just covering their ass.
Once again GM is just covering their ass.
Once again GM is just covering their ass. So much for a reformed GM. Once again GM shows its real attitude toward comsumers.
you’re right mike, im jealous that you can afford to buy a hummer h2, what you called a so-called “nice thing”. im jealous that i cant afford a vehicle whose wheels fall off. im jealous that i cant afford a $50,000 car with an interior that is no better than that in a Cavelier. yeah. yeah im jealous of that alright. you got me. im not sure exactly where you get off accusing me of vandalizing people’s things, because i never said one thing that implied that i physically destroy people’s property, because i dont. stop talking **** out of your ass and making false accusations that you have no way to back up. sidenote: dont refer to yourself as a big boy, you’re obviously an immature brat looking at how you post on this site, stereotyping people and judging groups of people and all.
i guess i’ll see you at the shop, where you undoubtadely will be when the wheels of of your precious hummer finally fall off. wait. no i wont, because i’d rather NOT drive a car built off of a LAST GENERATION tahoe platform that looks about as cheap as any budget offering GM makes
So why does the military use them?
Not that Hopper or Fonda would have attacked a Hummer.They’re too laid back. Jacky…no comment.
You know what?These people are more like gang-stalkers than hippies.The quintessential ‘hippy’ is a super egghead bookworm intellectual type.Usually university educated.They take great pride in what they view as outsmarting anything and everyone who is not in line with their philosophy,and I mean NON-VIOLENTLY.I know many university professors who were hippies(and still are in their own minds)and actual American hippy kinds of people from Berkeley, California.They are ‘people persons’,and there is no way in hell they would resort to violence to further their cause.It totally repudiates their arguments.An ‘original’actual hippy would confront you and talk you to death,instead.If these gang stalkers are trying to emulate real hippies,they’ll have to read some books and develop their brains a whole lot more.Real hippies are very passive(non-violent).It’s like the Boomers were/are the cream,and the generations that followed JUST.GOT. DUMBER.Also I am not a hippy.
Mike is right.Some people don’t like nice things.Corvettes are a major target for vandalism.Mercedes.Anything with a pretty paint job…
the tre’s are crap and you can get better ones, I have heard of them snapping/bending on a trail but never on pavement……you must be the other mike I guess I will post as mikex so we get the appropreate hate responces….
what’s up mike.
you have no idea how many times I have had to point out the capital ‘M’ as opposed to the lowercase ‘m’ oh well.
yeah, the tre’s are failing on the street on occasion. At 45mph if you loose a tre, the tire shoots out, ripping apart the balljoint and ejecting the wheel. But hey, build a 3/4 ton weight vehicle on a 1/2 ton chassy (excluding several suspension bits) using 1/2 ton steering components, and 30 failures in hundreds of thousands of vehicles isn’t that bad!
I am getting a set from trail duty because I wheel mine pretty hard and don’t want that kind of problems on the trails….of course on a trail is not the same as doing 45 or more alot more damage with the increased speeds…..
whooooooo Hummer. It’s a piece of **** Suburban. When are people gonna learn.
“Mike”, #53 … do you read, monkey?
“And the fact that this behemoth, which like it or not has a reputation for toughness, has failed miserably … it is a potential deathtrap … I won’t bring up the ‘Vette’s separating roof … I would think GM has much farther to advance than Toyota.”
It is a potential deathtrap … they have failed to engineer their vehicle for safety.
Take a course in comprehension, idiot.
All the H2s are, are Chevy Suburbans.
Dean, would you rather have you steering shaft splinter or a TRE snap?
asshat.
The former …
primate.
I agree with dean , the former. and i’d rather have my steering shaft splinter than have my roof falll off too Mike.
But Mike, it’s ignorant to simply blow this off and say since its “only” 30 out of hundreds of thousands its not something to be concerned with, as its a major safety hazard and does need to be dealt with. Now if GM was indeed dealing with it, that would be one thing, but to have them blow it off too and not take responsibility, well thats just not acceptable. This is a $50,000 vehicle here, not a Hyndai Accent, this shouldn’t even be an issue to begin with.
“I get the facts.I study them patiently.I apply imagination.”
Bernard M. Baruch(Forbes Magazine)
Is that ever good.”I apply imagination”.Beauty.The only way to be.
Patrick:
it’s ignorant to simply blow splintering steering shafts off and say since its “only” 30 out of 150,000 its not something to be concerned with, as its a major safety hazard and does need to be dealt with. Now if Toyota was indeed dealing with it, that would be one thing, but to have them blow it off too and not take responsibility, well thats just not acceptable. This is a $35,000 vehicle here, not a Hyndai Accent, this shouldn’t even be an issue to begin with.
I am not blowing it off. the TRE problem is a known problem, and has been for quite a while now. That is why any owner who has used their H2 for its intended purpose has adressed this on their own… and the aftermarket has as well.
and…ummm… the roofs are not coming off hummers. not sure why you would put that out there. that is like me talking about the LATCH system, which toyota dropped the ball on, but has nothing to do with the steering system or the vehicle affected by the steering system issue.
Intellectualising By Default:
“You might be more comfortable at a technical website for highly trained technicians if you want to discuss TREs in fine detail and other boring **** like that.You are getting off track.”
Actually that is not getting off track. that is EXACTLY THE POINT. This is not a ball joint problem as the article states. This is a an issue of the tie rod ends not being up to snuff. This is a known problem. The aftermarket has created multiple fantastic solutions.
Mike,yes,That is not really what I wanted to write.Disregard that post.I was typing before my thesis was formulated.I myself am ALL about the details.Just disregard that post(everybody please).