Oh me! Let me be the first to say whatever 1115 posts below is total crap!

OK, but can i be second?

Good for GM. Hopefully the UAW will slacken its noose up some on GM in the near future… and perhaps the domestic media will start supporting GM in 2009.

Yay, more garbage.

LOL Is that what you guys think ofg me lol Ill say something positive
Its about time GM
Thats the best I can do with such a vile company Its a start

While the winds of change breeze thru GM…..
the Pilot, new Accord, TSX, TL, and CRV are proof that the farts of change have putrefied thru Honda.

Should decision if the year is good occur after the year is passed not ahead of it? I doubt that 1990-1999 was proclaimed in advance as a failure years, yet GM managed to loose 14-17% of market share in US alone. And not to Ford or Chrysler. And just 2 short years ago I don’t recall GM aiming to become #2 in the world either. I suggest to count chickens AFTER they hatched.

Yay GM! Finally coming out of 1981!

And maybe Gm wont turn into walmart.

The Pilot is definitely a glaring example of that mayer_ray_nagin.
trantz – no matter what GM does, without at least some media support coming back, it will be impossible to turn around public opinion. With everyone openly praising and rooting for Toy when they almost became the world’s largest manufacturer, there is just no way to get anything pro-GM from the media. And by pro-GM, I don’t mean someone who supports GM and hates Toy. I just want people to give both equal chance.

I would not insult Walmart, they are doing great for their investors (compare to GM). Anyone wants to rave how they’ve made money on GM stock? I actually did last year when I sold them, and shorted twice this year.

Every time public gives GM a chance Lutz reminds us that they got to earn their chances and they did not so far.

Well being that GM made crap for 20 years and still is having recalls Gm should NOT be considered with the Japanese when shopping Just as Commodore
If anything there is a Toyota backlash now and I think the General is behind it

WTF??? What do you drive 1115? Do you drive a damn 1985 Sentra or some **** that’s on it’s last leg so it makes the car admireable by you since it can still haul your nerdy retarded ass around to get you to your job at Burger King. I bet you even wear the cardboard crown when your there. The General is going to kick some ass is what it sounds like. My Pepsi can has a better crumple zone than a ****ing jap POS

Give GM some props for admitting what buyers have stumbled up against when trying to consider the brand. Good cars, but what’s with the 4-speed transmissions, and why the better engine for just the Traverse. There may be other reasons why someone would not buy a GM car, but why not eliminate the obvious roadblocks first?

This is much better than Ford announcing Lane Departure systems in their dull cars!

Dont you wory about what I drive what state Im in and where I work
Just know that the Japanese cars are better than American cars and that is a proven fact based on resale reliability and build quality
You are a proud American which means you are ignorant as hell
Nice little comment about the Pepsi (you probably call it pop) but Japanese cars are safer as well and dont have failing safety equipment like the Lambda’s (all 18 of them) and the Cavalier Cobalt or whatever that POS is
Die in your POS american trash
Ask Commodore about the trash the General makes

Yeah, it’s soooooo cool to drive around in a jap car. People like you don’t know **** about cars. You have someone else change your oil, rotate your tires, probably even check your damn tire pressure. I wish we would have dropped the bomb on your ass instead of Hiroshimo. Go suck some Japan **** and balls, you know ya like it.

Yea with my first two cars I was underneath them changing oil and all that **** With the third I have a dealer do that for me bc im above that now I do have them rotate the tires as well
You are some hick who’s daddy(when he came around) told you about the bull**** american dream and talked about Mustangs and taught you a little racism along with it I see. What he didnt know was that this country and corporations like GM are about profits and screwing people out of their hard earned money with their POS cars
Thank god for Honda and Toyota for showing domestics how a car should be built
Go wipe your ass with an american flag I know I do I think Ill burn one tonight in your memory

What they need is an updated Cobalt.
At least they could have improved the current car with a telescoping steering wheel and better seats. GM lets its products rot.

1115, my Road runner would suck your Jap made POS up the intake and blow it out the exhaust. Why are classic American cars bringing in 100’s of thousands of dollars when old jap cars are non existent? Because they suck and nobody wants them! You obviously listen to what your “daddy” says about his toyota prius because he’s probably some bald dick sucking san francisco fag and is brainwashing you to do the same. Or are you doing it at your own will?

why do “Jap” cars sell more and last longer Why is there an entire movement devoted to japanese sports cars ? Even movies made about them ?
Because everyne wants them
Not only are you a racist hick but now your a homophobe. Sounds about right Watch American Beauty and look at Chris Cooper and thats you lol
That thing got a Hemi? yea but it blew a gasket

How the **** is trying to mock jap cars??? The japs stole their ideas from US dumbass. And the new movies are because of retarded ass 16 year olds that can’t afford anything except a 15 year old pos honda and toyota and spend all their mickie d’s paychecks on retarded modifications that don’t do **** for their cars. You dickheads are the most wasteful people when it comes to money, THATS why hollyweird makes those dumbass fast and furious movies where they are driving down the road at 35 mph but digitally enhance(fast forward) the film to make your **** look like it can drive the interstate speed limit. Blew a gasket??? I’ll your car blows is the **** bitch!

LOL you ar such a retard You actually forgot about the whole Japanese car movement You probably drink Budweiser and eat hot dogs for dinner lol
I can tell you are a hick Its so obvious
Trailer trash you would get along with JJT he is a janitor you could be his assistant

Yeah, I’m a trailer trash mechanical engineer. Yeah and I did farm work and construction the whole time I was in college. I could break your little twiggy ass in half and feed you to the gators down here in FL. I bet you live a life of excitement delivering pizzas in your 1987 pos camry and get your jollies on the internet with fat bitches. But hey, at least I’m the one who can AFFORD a new car. Sucks to be you.

Yea so I was right you are a hick Farm Gators Nascar getherdone lol
You can AFFORD one yet you dont have one Nice to convince yourself
Drink your BUD and shut up hillbilly

Unfortunately my friend they know those modified Hondas and Toyota’s will last and last that’s why they pour the money into kit cars mods. It looks nice and they be able to run it as long as they like Unlike a Cavalier POS

Why don’t they accelerate and put the six speed into the Tahoe and make it at least optional on some lower trim models?

Please, enough with the ricer bull****. Adding a retarded looking wing or some stupid exhaust system that adds a total of around 10 HP doesn’t do ****. Perhaps it makes those bland cars look a little less bland, but that is negated by the fact that they now look ****in stupid. That is why all the mexican kids here drive them zipping through traffic…but when they merge right in front of me it takes them way too long to accelerate so I have to brake…makes me wanna shoot their gas tanks so their ****in car and them explode. But of course, that is why they drive retarded ricer cars – they can’t afford a real car. That might explain why you are like this 1115.

And I don’t call people racist often, but I am more and more convinced that 1115 is some type of Reverend Wright-style resentful minority who hates white people. Or perhaps you are white and you hate rednecks

Cookie4me,
Quit bitchin about the 6 speed transmissions already. Look at the GMC Syclone, it’s only a 4 speed auto(700R4), thats 17 years old, has only 280HP and does 0-60 MPH in 4.3 seconds, the 1/4 mile 13.08@105MPH, STOCK!!! The Sy can still beat most fast, modern cars today with 17 year old technology. 4 speeds will last longer than 6 speeds because there is less moving parts. As for gas milage, there is no big difference.

actually there is a “big” difference in fuel mileage.
1-2 mpg’s is a big deal, especially in cars that only get 14-18 mpg’s and especially with CAFE screwing everyone.

Ya’ll sound like ho’s fighting over the last tampon.

Triple, if the Japanese sell more cars, then why is GM still #1?
As for Japanese quality, why did Toyota have the most recalls of any car company in 2007? Why is there always more older running American cars on the road than older Japanese cars running? You sound like an anti-American, hippie whos in his early 30’s, still living with his parents, in a basement. I guess you’re just another idiot who got roped into the “Japanese reliability hype” trap. Anyone who’s smart enough knows that, the anti-American media, is behind all the consumer reports, that are biased towards the Japanese.

A4
1-2 MPG, is not a big difference, if you can afford gas in a big SUV, like a Tahoe. Get you’re head out of you’re ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5UIaFZxIhg

I love the first line of the article “While General Motors has drastically improved its lineup over the past several years…” According to whom? The big three have been making **** cars for decades, and less and less people want to by them. Of course, there will always be people who get excited about things like new transmissions, Bluetooth, or some useless gimmick. Hopefully for GM, there’s still enough of those people out there to take the bait. “Ooh, I sure hope the Cobalt comes with Bluetooth, it’s the only thing the keeping me from buying one!”

Yeah and Toyota has been making rusty vehicles for the last several years.

Cobalt looks better than the bubble**** Yaris.

It’s so hilarious to me how this is a page about GM updating its product line (long overdue but I’m glad to see it happening), yet some of you children for some God-unknown reason decide to turn it into a 5th grade level argument about cars where facts apparently are things that haven’t been invented yet. Some of you dip****s never cease to amaze me. Instead of bringing up car brands that don’t need to do overhauls of their ENTIRE product line, how about commenting on the issue at hand? Or is that a bit too much for you to do at this stage in your pre-pubescent brains?

im hoping for the people who work at gm, that those “winds of change” not turn out to be the same farts gm has been producing for the last 30 years…

Triple, if the Japanese sell more cars, then why is GM still #1?
**They are struggling to keep that position if they are. Can they sell the Malibu over the Camry Their trucks are their best sellers yet on the worst used cars list

As for Japanese quality, why did Toyota have the most recalls of any car company in 2007?
**Why has GM had more recalls than any other company for the last twenty years Yea Toyota had what one bad year of recalls but GM is consistently recalling vehicles Ill send you a thread link
http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-slowing-indiana-plant-production.html#comments

Why is there always more older running American cars on the road than older Japanese cars running?
**The older 60’s american cars are rebuilt and do not have the original engines in them If you watch any show they use crate engines and often have to do extensive body work Please stop acting as if they are all original parts lol If you dont know that I suggest you get a clue

You sound like an anti-American, hippie whos in his early 30’s, still living with his parents, in a basement.
***Whether Im a hippie live in an apartment, basement on the street, Does it still change the fact that Japanese cars are longer lasting and have a better build quality and resale ? Personal attacks are fun but it doesnt change the fact at hand

I guess you’re just another idiot who got roped into the “Japanese reliability hype” trap.
***Its not a trap GM made and makes crap and sold it under the guise of patriotism and you are obviously someone who fell for it. Its fact that can be proven and you are in denial

Anyone who’s smart enough knows that, the anti-American media, is behind all the consumer reports, that are biased towards the Japanese.
***There is no anti American media If there was you would see the light and know that the Japanese build better cars Due to the bull**** “American dream” that everyone was sold Poeple still believe in GM and hate the Japanese Toyota especially
God thats was easy

OH MY GOD 1115, SHUT UP!!! All YOU EVER SAY IS YOUR DUMBASS-SUPER BIASED OPINION TOWARDS JAPANESE MAKES. PLEASE, STOP POSTING….

1115 you are a troll, and I like to feed trolls so here goes.

GM has certainly built some extremely reliable cars. I could mention that GM’s trucks routinely outlast Toyota’s trucks and cars, but a truck-to-car comparison isn’t fair. Plus its also not fair that Toyota gives us the POS Tacoma and Tundra but gives the rest of the world the stellar Hilux. There are still LT1 powered Caprices in service with well over 300,000 miles on them and those cars are 12-14 years old.

You mean Japanese Sports Car. The 2JZ-GTE Supra is the only one worth talking about.

1115 you admit that you don’t work on your own cars and there you aren’t experiencing one of the most glaring shortcomings of Japanese cars (and Fords), they’re absurdly messy and cluttered under the hood and needlessly difficult to work on. There’s no room to work and its not laid out very well. I had to pull so much crap off my friend’s Camry to change a water pump for him, including the timing chain. It was a 5-6 hour job. That same job would take me 20 minutes tops on a GM pickup truck and I wouldn’t have to mess with anything other than the fan to do it.

As far as reliability I have a 91 Caprice that I still drive with 165,000 on it. Its been extremely reliable. There are far more American cars from the 80s still alive than Japanese cars, which have all disintegrated. The most common car I see from the early 90s still running on the highways is a Buick LeSabre.

As far as safety goes I’ll put my Suburban up against anything. It’s 6000lbs and I”m surrounded by crush zones and surrounded by airbags. Its the pinnacle of collision safety.

To everybody else:
2 MPG is a world of difference. My Suburban gets 2mpg better on the highway than my old Silvy did. It saves me about $20 a month in fuel costs. That’s a difference. Each MPG counts when the numbers are so low. Yes I can afford the gas, but I’d prefer not to spend it if I can get a more efficient V8.

@murderedout,
The Buick GNX will outrun that Syclone with 21 year old technology. Gotta love the Buick V6.

1115 = douche

As for the MPG difference, I thought I remember GM brass bragging about how much of an improvement the 6 speed tranny will make on the 4 cylinder Malibu. I haven’t seen the numbers but I’m watching.

GM is gay!

Resale value has jumped 400%.

Vdsmith
Is that your best shot ? Yet another idiot mad at the FACT that the Japanese make better longer lasting vehicles with better resale values than the domestics
Resale has jumped 400% That sounds like something Commo would say Its equal to Toyota now they promised they would make the wind blow so that means they are equal now

tripleonefive is my hero!

again, murdered out, 1-2 mpgs is a big difference. If you have a big pickup truck, for a business, for construction, for contracting work, for hauling important **** around, 1-2 mpgs in a truck like that can be as much as a 20% increase in fuel economy. 20% isnt alot? get your head out of your ass.

and tripleonefive, both ford and GMs current quality levels are on par with toyota. Yeah the image isnt there in the american public, but buicks were more reliable than lexus’s last year.

Nice from the inbreeding that bought LLN Lamboz get a life we now have 1115 is right richard !!!!!!!
Oh man I have my own counter and hes racist (rice reference) Wow I love America, the minute you tell the truth and provide fact people still want to go against based on ignorance and pride
God bless the USA

To fan the flames…

1115 – Unless you are completely ignorant, you have to admit that GM is improving its line-up. They produced crap for a long time, but at least GM is starting to look past quarter profits and realizing that unless it starts making some higher quality cars, they’re done for. Also, Toyota itself has admited that its been having some engineering problems lately due to its goal of beating out GM as the largest car producer.

Everyone else – Unless you are completely ignorant, you have to admit that a lot of those Japanese cars have been very reliable, and even fun in some cases (Prelude, Supra, 350z/g35 coupe etc). You will also have to admit that GM/ford does have a somewhat deserved reputation of building crap based on decades of producing…crap. I am well aware that at least GM is starting to turn itself around, but public sentiment can be rather unforgiving.

All of you should try to differentiate between fact and opinion. You’re entitled to your opinions, but stop presenting them as facts.

And I really don’t mean this to be insulting at all, but I do think the irony in someone named AmericanMade yelling at 1115 for being “SUPER BIASED” is hilarious.

trantz: “perhaps the domestic media will start supporting GM in 2009.” The media are supposed to be objective.

Commodore: There are some in the media, particularly at Edmunds,.com, who know what time it is.

“Gm should NOT be considered with the Japanese when shopping.”
Suit yourself!

HemiRoadRunner “What do you drive 1115?” It drives an accord and works as a fluffer.

“Just know that the Japanese cars are better than American cars and that is a proven fact.”
It can’t be proven true or false. Some Japanese cars are better than some American cars.

1115: you’ve owned a domestic?

HemiRoadRunner: A co-worker just bought a ’68 cougar, and another has an early-‘60s Buick.

“Why is there an entire movement devoted to japanese sports cars?” Even movies made about them ?
Because everyne (sic) wants them”

No. I want a GT-R, but it’d be quite a stretch to call those gay-ass rides in the fast and the furious “sports cars.”

Just
A
New
Idea
Tripleonefluffer’s
Openly
Retarded

FordTaurusForever: My cavalier had 190K on it when I wrecked it. That’s > twice what I got out of my civic. And my mom traded in a Camry for a Taurus.

400horseSS: “Ya’ll sound like ho’s fighting over the last tampon.” Funny!

187out: “As for Japanese quality, why did Toyota have the most recalls of any car company in 2007?” Japanese recalls don’t count, but 20 year-old GM recalls do.

“Why is there always more older running American cars on the road than older Japanese cars running?”
There’s the point there, 187out. That, to me, tells me what reliability is.

“Get you’re head out of you’re ass.” Was that directed at tripleonefluffer? Because if it doesn’t get its daily dose of HMA, it’ll be even bitchier!

{‘The older 60’s american cars are rebuilt and do not have the original engines in them” Some probably don’t, but how many are we talking about? two percent? five percent? I

“Its (sic) fact that can be proven.” No, it can’t.

frylock350: “There are still LT1 powered Caprices in service with well over 300,000 miles on them and those cars are 12-14 years old.” Cops and taxi companies need tough vehicles. That’s why they’re not tooling around in you-know-whats.

“As far as reliability I have a 91 Caprice that I still drive with 165,000 on it … My first 2 gm cars had a combined 320K one was wrecked, the other traded in.

“The most common car I see from the early 90s still running on the highways is a Buick LeSabre.” Research will tell you that the Pontiac Grand Am is actually the longest lasting midsizer from the mid-‘80s/early-‘90s era.

A4: you’re right.

1115: “God bless the USA.” That’s the most sensible thing you’ve ever said.

Well, this is the only thing I have left to say on this topic since 1115 has proven he doesn’t even have a driver’s license yet. When have you ever heard of someone saying, “Oh man, when I get my license, I want a toyota camry, or a honda accord, or a nissan sentra!” You haven’t unless your a homo. Everyone says they want a Camaro, or a Mustang, or what sounds like the new Challenger. toyonda’s are nothing but commuter cars and cookie cutter family cars. There are old American cars ALL over America that still run and drive. How many jap cars do you see that are older than 15 years old? I see alot in the junkyard.

You dont see any Japanese car bc you live in a tralier I can tell you are nascar loving woman beating going bowling on friday night them beating your woman at bowling then beating her again racist asshole
I want a mustang I want a camaro if you dont like Mustangs and Camaros you are a homo **Well said John Reepe
The american cars on blocks in your driveway dont count as running lol You took the restrictor plate off your camaro but keep that on the down low
Remember anyone that doesnt like Larry the Cable guy or drive a pick up or Mustang is a homo according to this inbred waste of life
Kill yourself Really just kill yourself
If you can show that a Mustang or IROC lasts longer than a japanese car than prove it instead of spewing your trailer park ignorance

Frylock, The Syclone still owns the Buick GNX!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkjHnn3pME8
A4 where did you get 20%? OUT OF YOU’RE ASS!
All the Jap lovers in here need to get jobs!
TRIPLE ON FIVE DICKS, We all know you’re a fat virgin who wacks it to shemale porn, and still lives in his parents basement.
Everyone knows American cars last longer than japanese. It’s a FACT! not an opinion.
oh and talking about cars from the 60s triple on dicks, have you ever watched barret jackson? Most have the original engines. Now lets compare 80s jap crap vs American. Wait all the jap crap is in the junkyards.LOL, these pimpled faced virgins like triple cyclone of red, jackoff turckey, dont even own a car, let alone have a drivers liscence. it’s like arguing with a retart.

Who said they liked Larry the Cable Guy? I hate him. All my cars are restored and worth more than your house. And last time I checked there were no trailer parks anywhere near here. You must be just throwing trailer park out there hoping to meet a neighbor of your’s. Now go install your wing on your pos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkjHnn3pME8

^^^^ALL OVER 1 MILLION MILES WITH ORIGINAL ENGINES! Let see a jap vehicle do that.

FRYLOCK here is your GNX getting stomped by another Syclone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkjHnn3pME8

toyota is gay!

I’m the BOSS OF LLN, the TONY SOPRANO of LLN COMMENTS AND I JUST WACKED all of you!

If by the “TONY SOPRANO OF LLN” you mean the dumbest ****ing child on the entire site, then yes, you hold that title.

retart?

Don’t get your panties all in a bunch yet. The real scoop:

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/brandsel.jsp?regionID=1&year=2009

Murdered out>>> WORD. Why the hell were you argueing with me before?

Lexus soarer. You know what they say about men who drives Lexus don’t ya? They like to take it up the ass. Only fags with small dick drives Lexus like you soarer. You’re ass is soarer from your boyfriend ramming you hard, all night and that sick gay sex. I wanna throw up on your face you ****ing queer.

“Just know that the Japanese cars are better than American cars and that is a proven fact based on resale reliability and build quality”

What decade are you living in, man? This isn’t 1995. Try doing some research on J.D. Power’s VDS (Vehicle Dependability Study) and see where the Domestics are on par with, and in some cases ahead of, the Japanese vehicles you so blindly tout rhetoric for. Buick and Lexus tied for first this year.

“Japanese cars are safer as well and dont have failing safety equipment like the Lambda’s (all 18 of them) and the Cavalier Cobalt or whatever that POS is
Die in your POS american trash”

Japanese cars don’t have failing safety equipment? Really? What about the recall on numerous Nissan’s for an airbag fix, maybe two weeks ago, where if the battery gets run down the passenger airbags could fail to deploy altogether. Days before Ford had a similar recall, but their airbags were going off too forcefully. What would you rather? One that’s more powerful than it was intended or one that doesn’t work at all? Or Honda recalling all of their new Civics for ‘Wheel Bearing Failure’. Or last week, when Toyota had to recall every Corolla, Matrix, and Vibe (don’t even pretend that there are Pontiac parts on that car) made since 2003 due to bolt failure holding the front door glass in. Toyota loosing a class action suit over selling one of the poorest designed V6’s we’ve seen in decades (Camry), not to mention their V8 Tundra’s being recalled for possible ‘Engine Replacement’.

It all depends on who’s spin you want to eat today, and you’re getting fat on Japan’s.

J.D. Power’s VDS (Vehicle Dependability Study)is based on 90 days of ownership. That cant tell if a car will go the distance
. Also JD Powers is a pay for play site (ask your Impulsives mother about what that means)
Check the resale of a Buick vs a Lexus or the sales and you will see that the Lexus is better just like Toyota and Honda are better than all domestic cars
Show me a link about the Nissan and also look up who owns them its Renault which is a French company Toyota and Honda are 100 % japanese
THe Vibe Matrix is what Toyota gets for working with GM
Take a look at this thread bc Im not typing all this **** out again
http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-slowing-indiana-plant-production.html
You will see all the GM safety issues and recalls Including your precious Buick

Please send me a link like I have sent you about this Camry V6. Not saying I dont believe you but no has been able to produce solid evidence and as you can see in the links in the link I sent you GM has made **** in the past and they continue their streak of recalls due to poor build quality

Resale values reflect public perception only. There is absolutely ZERO relation between RV and reliability/quality. Nissan was a lame duck sitting in the red before Renault bought them and they started building cars that people want to drive again.

http://www.anapolschwartz.com/practices/air-bag-failure/blog/

Again, the Vibe is a Toyota, rebadged, just like the POS Chevy Spectrum from the 80’s was a Corolla.

You’re giving me links so I can read more of your bull****? That’s not useful, it’s a replay of you spouting opinion yet again, with candour that would embarrass my three year old. The point of providing a link is to point out matters of fact written by people who actually have a sense of reality and spend time doing real research and journalism.

BTW, I never said one thing about you personally, so don’t try talking about my mother. Making people angry won’t help prove your point. It just serves to make you sound like a child. You really are the worst kind of Troll out there. One without a point or fact.

lol yeah Steve333 The Cobalt actually is supposed to get a re-fresh for 2009, as well. From what I know just an interior one, and I only heard about the crappy cup holders getting changed…. GM just needs to come out with a whole new replacement for the Cobalt.

Good to hear they are phasing out those old ass 4spd auto’s and replacing them with 6 spd autos, everyone else has them.

Resale values reflect the cars reliability and is a reality It is used in courts of law and shows which cars last longer and have better build quality therfore are worth more
Public perception means absolutely nothing When you go to trade your car in or have a court case involving your car they dont rate the everyone on the streets perception of what your car is worth they rate the actual book value of your car
check out this thread with all the GM recalls If you want the other thread where I cited more please ask and I will provide
Thats how much I think of you
Quote the 1115 nevermore
http://www.leftlanenews.com/honda-pilot.html#comments

Think about it for a second. Resale value reflects what? How much people are willing to pay for something. How much BUYERS think a car is worth. Buyers don’t regulate ****, and don’t do long term vehicle reliability research. A book can say a car is worth $12,000 all day long, but if no one is willing to pay more than $4,000 grand for it, public perception has spoken.

Who’s talking about GM’s recalls? I thought this had something to do with you saying Japanese cars don’t have safety recalls. Why don’t you address that, rather than invent a new way to weasle out of whatever hole you dig with an unrelated tirade?

And please, stop sending me to other news items that you soil, just to read your ****. This topic will do.

Crap. That was supposed to be $4 grand.

Wow… just WOW… it has been months since I’ve been on this site and I can’t believe that 1115-reasons-people-should-have-abortions is still here… and that he’s still saying the SAME exact crap that he’s been saying ever since he came to this site.

And I mean… the same exact lines… almost word for word… Except now he’s getting downright pathetic. I hope everyone realizes he’s nothing but a freaking troll who tries to get a rise out of people… because nobody can be that ignorant to reality.

It doesn’t matter what anyone says to him… it doesn’t matter what the actual facts of reality are… all he does is rebut facts with his own opinions and never has anything that can substantiate his opinions… I and many others have had these same arguments with him months ago, and he’s literally saying the same BS.

The boy has problems… sad, pathetic problems… Just to highlight how delusional he is – just look at his last batch of BS…. Resale values are indicative of reliability? They are used in courts of law to show how long lasting a vehicle is? See.. right there… that more than shows the boy doesn’t know a damn thing.

Guess what scooter… A court of law has nothing to do with, nor would it give two ****s about deciding the durability of a vehicle… what kind of half-assed BS is that? Secondly… resale value to based solely on perceived worth and how much one is willing to pay for something… it serves as no indication of reliability. All one has to do is look at any number of sports/super cars or high-end luxury cars that have piss-poor reliability, yet somehow it has no effect on their resale.

I realized a long time ago that this little douche does this for kicks and nothing more… and that everyone sees him for the sad, pathetic, little joke that he is… he doesn’t do this to educate people about the truth like he claims, because he doesn’t have any concept about what the truth is… for one to be able to spread the truth, they have to be capable of learning…

Either way… 1115, if you read this… you really need to give this crap up – it’s getting awfully old.

AMG off
Hmm well being that I have provided links to official sites like KBB and Nada Ive also sent links to the many GM recalls from the NHSTA and yet I provide no evidence ???
You havent been on for months and you have been out of it for a while
Its getting old hearing old patriotic assholes like yourself talking about how reliability and resale are opinions and have no bearing on a cars reliability
Why is it that Hondas and Toyotas last long are selling more ? WHy is it that Fords GM and Chrysler s are suffering ?
Hmm Isnt funny that the cars from Japan are worth more ?
I didnt see one link or anything backing your stmts up meanwhile I have sent link after link proving GMs unreliability . Yea GM is trying but they have a bad track record and their new cars arent proven and you are so desperate just like Commo jjacy and the other idiots to prove me wrong that it kills you that you cant
No one NO ONE has any real evidence showing that GM is a reliable safe car and better or even equal to the Japanese
All you have are poor attempts at insults and profanity bc you cant prove anything coutering what I sau
Either way AMG off or whoever You really need to stop whining and realize that the Japanese make a better car
It hurts but its true

Yeah, it’s hard to explain something to someone who has no concept of comprehension. Reliability is something that can be proven or disproven. Resale values and their relationship with Reliability cannot. That’s because their only tie lies in the mind of the person with cash in hand. There is no ruling body that states “You must sell your Accord for anywhere between $6500 and $7000, and you’re not allowed to spend any more or any less on that car, due to a reliability based regulation. Based on quality and reliability figures, this is the value of the car, and the price cannot deviate from that set value.”

Now do you understand what we’ve been trying to tell you?

Oh, I’m still waiting to hear your proof that Japanese cars don’t have safety recalls.

Yeah… you’re right pal… only GM has recalls… the Japanese never ever have recalls! We all give up and give in to your complete BS – is that what you’d like?

You can provide all of the little links you like… because all you’re doing is dodging other questions with them… I’m still waiting for you to take your ADD medication and actually respond to some of the questions I’ve already put out there.

But you don’t because you don’t have any answers for them… it’s much easier for you to just pull another opinion out of your ass than it is to actually face the truth.

Yeah… you’re right pal you are dodging those links bc you would actually have to account for them and it kills your bs point
I never said that only GM has recalls but I will say that Honda hasnt injured anyone and Honda is a smaller company GM has the resources but they didnt and dont build a better car bc of idiots like you who just buy it because its patriotic
Untill people like you force domestics to make better cars Domestic companies will get away with building unsafe unreliable cars costing consumers MILLIONS and injuring and possibly killing people in the process
Im going to call you Arlon Spector the single GM theory

Stumbled across this page when I was looking for reasons why Ricer cars are starting to fill our roads. GM needed a car overhaul years ago, but decided to spend money on other things like contract deals with Toyota, etc. Why do you think some of their compacts look like Toyotas? Strange how misinformed individuals on this page rant and rave, protecting their egos about ricer cars etc. And fighting back protecting the stupidity that some people put into their cars to make them look fast but can’t even go 0-60 in 6 secs. without redlining their RPMs to catch up to that old domestic 4 speed. Also if anyone don’t already know having more speeds or gears on a automatic transmission don’t do anything to the speed of the car, except that the last few gears are only for feul economoy and the smoothness of the shifts before it goes into the overdrive mode. Domestic cars and most of the current models if not all standard domestic cars are 4 speed 3 speed being the norm and the 4th being the overdrive. As far as Japanese cars being safer who are you kidding? Even Chrysler minivans are safer than most of those japanese cars, except without all the electronics to make them more appealing. North American Invented the production line but Germany invented the automobile, so who’s got better cars oh by the way engineering wise and not the gadgets that are prolific in all japanese cars, just to augement the bland looks of them.

Oh, I’m still waiting to hear your proof that Japanese cars don’t have safety recalls.
Please show me a link where I said that japanese dont have recalls ?
The point of this is that Japanese cars (Honda and Toyota) are better than Domestic offerings