October5
Spy photographer Chris Doane caught the 2009 Cadillac CTS-V in testing late Wednesday. So far, we’ve seen several shots of “ordinary” 2008 CTS test cars. These are the first images to date of the high-performance V-series variant. The prototype has a huge bubble in the hood, performance wheels, wide tires, unique (larger) exhaust pipes and — our photographer swears — an obvious “supercharger sound.”
According to spy Brenda Priddy, one of the most dependable sources claims the CTS V Series will be powered by a 4.6-liter non-supercharged V8, while others insist — as the photos seem to show — a supercharged V8 is in store for the hot CTS. Some sources even claim this car will share the “Blue Devil” Stingray’s supercharged V8 — which could explain why these two vehicles have been spotted in the same general area.
Horsepower estimates have also been all over the board, but it’s safe to assume the CTS-V will have somewhere between 550-600 hp. Production should start in the fall of 2008, according to Priddy, with an annual run of 7500 V Series units is expected.
its going to be a monsterrrrrr
Luxury + good looks + crazy power = very hot vehicle.
“550-600 hp”…
Hold on to your seats!
Good work GM. Get the refinement to match the power output and go hunt some M5s.
Cant wait to see this w/o camo. The new CTS looks to be a very nice vehicle.
Luxury + good looks + crazy power - good looks = Cadillac CTS-V
Looks like it will be an M5 killer. Can’t wait!
HOpefully they can fix the rear end problems.
Doesn’t matter, GM can make a better car than BMW but people will always flock to get their German fav brands. Really guys how many of you are willing to spit that much cash for a Caddy in real life? We all just want GM to catch up to the Germans and Japs so that they’ll make better cars that we’ll all buy. Of course there are patriots here…
So, some think it will be a naturallly aspirated 4.6 V8 in the V-Series, some think it will be a supercharged V8 (like every other V-Series actually is), and some think (hope?) that it will have the blue devil engine, and all of the sudden it’s “safe to assume” that the next CTS-V will have 500-600 hp?
I’m not going to hold my breath for more than 450, which is still in line with it’s rivals (since it’s sorta halfway between 3 and 5 series size).
Either way, lets hope the overall package builds on what was a pretty decent first generation product with the CTS, making something a that will make ze germans sweat a little more. It certainly looks to have a more engaging design than most of it’s competition…
I actually think the zebra camo is kinda cool.
I would hope for something closer to 500hp.
Worth every penny though.
Nooo, they need to put the 3rd brake light behind the rear window!! For some reason GM likes to put them on top of the trunk lid in almost every sedan. The rear end will look MUCH better without it being there, instead you can a nice smooth trunk, and they can put the Cadillac logo instead.
Just a thought…
But 550-600hp, that sounds niiiice. I’m guessing theres just gonna be a shiza load of torque?
I give caddy made props for making cars like these. I hope it pays off big for them. I can’t believe the tree-huggers haven’t commented on this car. I guess the difference to them is ground clearence.
They would never make it more powerful than the flagship STSV guys. Be realistic. Unless GM has plans on bumping up HP on the STSV you can rest assure that the CTSV will always be slotted below the STSV. Thats the way it works.
“I give caddy made props for making cars like these. I hope it pays off big for them. I can’t believe the tree-huggers haven’t commented on this car. I guess the difference to them is ground clearence.”
I would suggest the difference is volume. GM sold 10k+ Tahoes alone in September. Add in the rest on the 9 series GM products, and every other manufactueres SUVs and its easy to see how this vehicle (if they ever make 7500 units), HEMI powered cars, Ferrraris, Lambos, etc. fly under the radar. Their time will come soon enough. For now SUVs are just the most obvious source of excessive waste to go after.
None of that matters though, pollute and use as much resources as you can. We’ll all be dead soon enough and it won’t be our problem.
Car and Driver magazine said the squeeks and rattles were bad by the end of a long term experience.
The rear end was lunched as well.
Hopefully they will beef up the rest of the car.
GM can make as good a car as they want to, they usually do not try very hard to get all the details right.
@Renton,
You need to take a another look at the vehicle reliability lists. You will find that Cadillac and other GM brands rate very high. That is not by accident. This leads me to believe that GM is try as hard as it needs to.
Amazing. An American M5, AMG killer.
There is a certain undefinable driving and handling characteristic that can only be found in a German car. They design those cars to travel at GREAT speeds. Something that Japan and America do not do because we are limited to 75mph. Simply put they never have come close to that feeling of a german car and i dont think they ever will. But yea i give em props for…”trying”. Because thats all it is, is a try. Looks good tho. Lets hope its not a crap box like most other GM cars.
Ya Renton, sad becase the car was pretty much beat by 50k miles. The editors were not really that impressed and questioned the longevity of the V.
I am actually planning on sending a letter in to explain my horrid experiences with my SRX. “SUV of the year” two years in a row… what a joke.
I fell for it and wish I could drive it through the showroom window, leave the keys and never return.
Yes, personally I would never buy a GM product. Not anytime soon for the least. What Firekyro mentioned about a “undefinable driving and handling characteristic that can only be found in a German car” is absolutely true. German cars for some reason just feel too comfortable cruising on the highway. I drove over 2500 miles last summer in an Audi A8, I averaged 80mph most of the ride but the whole time it felt like I was going 20-30mph, like holding back a race horse.
I just dont see why people would spend their hard earned money that they worked their butt for on a rinky dink vehicle.
What’s with the tiny rear window?
BrokenCadillac: You should write that letter…and don’t just send it to the car mags, but send it directly to GM because if there’s a problem, it needs to be addressed. The quality issues that people on this blog complain about will never be fixed if GM is not made aware of just how pissed off customers are getting. Unhappy customers tend to spread the word, and that’s never a good thing for business. Most of the execs at GM are more than willing to maintain the status quo, but if you force their hand, changes might actually take place. Remember: The answer is always “no” if you don’t ask.
That said, I’m surprised about the poor quality of you SRX. What is wrong with it? I toured the LGR plant before, and it’s state of the art and one of the best plants. I’ve known several people who have owned the various Sigma vehicles (SRX/CTS/STS), and none of them ever had a problem.
Hopefully they spent more than 10 cents on the interior this time around. Being outclassed by a Kia Spectra in your interior is pretty pathetic for a 60 thousand dollar Caddy.
My SRX can be stripped apart by a blind two year old.
Sounds like its not the typical SRX. 90Z is right. Every manufacturer produces a lemon now and then. If you really are having the kind of trouble you continue to relate to us here ad nauseum, then a meeting with your service manager, and then probably his boss and his bosses boss might be in order.
I personally would not live with the problem.
That being said, my GM product (2003 Z71 Silverado) has been bullet proof in every sense of the word and I do not baby it. It sees very rough service off road, and tows loads near its capacity frequently.
Seriously, call the head quarters. My fuel pump went in my Blazer a few years ago while I was on the road, 200 miles from home. The dealership that I towed it to wanted to run me through the ringer and charge $1200 for a $800 job. I had a short phone call with the headquarters, and I recieved a call back from the dealership 20 minutes later with the CORRECT quote. If you are having some serious problems with your SRX and they are not fixing them, a written letter and or phone call to the right people will go a long way. Mention JD Powers to them. Mention how your friends of equal stature have been completely turned off by the quality and service. Unfortunately it takes abit of effort on our part, but in your case I think it is worth it.
Same **** happened to us too last year, the fuel pump went south and it cost a hell of a lot of money to get it fixed.
It’s not that the car isn’t being fixed. It’s just seeing the service dept. way too much for a 60,000 dollar vehicle. I am hoping to dump it as soon as I can find a sucker who will give me more than its value. Right now it’s worth about 16 grand after all the work I have had done and the missing interior trim pieces that fell off. I just tossed that stuff.
And some of the stuff like the interior can’t be fixed. It’s just cheap chintzy garbage right out of the factory. Funny because all the other cars in the showroom had some sort of cheap Chevy like interior trim pieces on them.
I am probably going to go with a 300C or an E-class Diesel pretty soon.
And my neighbor who lives four doors down from me just lemoned a new body STS because the Northbomb decided to draw pretty pictures all over his driveway in oil. The dealer just reponded with “These motors tend to burn a little oil upon breakin and over the lifespan of the vehicle”.
Uh huh…
I thought Northstar was a respected engine in the GM staple…apparently not.
The Northstar is an excellent engine with a commendable track record in a range of vehicles.
Something smells like embellishment.
BrokenCadillac –”I just tossed that stuff.”
LOL! GM does some things very well, and other things very poorly.
In todays premium market you have to sweat all the details.
I want th e 6.0 liter pushrod or as GM likes to call it “cam in block” to remain in this car.
It is a better street motor. Just fix the flaws and we’ll all be happy. Refine and evolve, don’t spend the money on an all new one ’til you get the formula down correctly.
WonbyOne: You might be onto something. I’ve had two Northstar engines myself in the past few years and they were both outstanding.
The Northstar had oil consumption issues for the first few years. There is an 01 or something Seville that looks to be unwrecked rotting outside one of the local gas stations near where I live. Thing hasn’t moved in the whole time I have seen it.
Oh it’s respected, but not all of them are perfect by any means.
just like BMW/mercedes etc… engines. not all are perfect.
Anything more than 450 HP is pretty much useless in the real world unless you’re trying to appeal to buyers who need to make up for certain shortcomings…
…but Oh, Yeah - that’s why it’s a Cadillac.
BTW - What’s up w/ posting pix that are too big to be seen on a normal screen???
Can you resize the pix guys???