BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NO THING CHANGE AND THE PRICE WHEN UP EXCEPT THE NEW HOOD LOOK SO SEXY WOOOOOOOOOOOW AND SOME THE TRIMS

So the enthusiast version adds traction control? Interesting thought, and probably a play for the aspiring race driver wannabe market. It’s a shame they didn’t get rid of the awful ‘cheap eastern refrigerator’ door handles and rework the Z brace in the back that completely blocks and reflects into the rear window, but lets face it - the old one was a great car and even though this isn’t remarkably different on the outside it’ll still probably be just as good.

Lilcua—English isn’t your native language, is it?

Wait!!!!! where are the “it’s trying to compete with the Pontiac G6″ comments?

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Ugh. Still one of the ugliest, cheapest, most unreliable pieces of trash out there. Where’s the update? I see nothing but the same old thing with a hump in the hood. Big deal.

Here in Michigan, you’re an f’n loser if you drive a Nissan. They are more commonly found on the back of flatbeds than on the streets. Solstices and Sky’s slaughter these things daily while still being bulletproof reliable and built like gold.

The only thing more trashy than the 350Z is the crappy mazda Miata, but those aren’t really sportscars either.

What the hell is going on with this site? Why are some of my comments displayed and others not? Seems like the only ones that get displayed are the ones asking about this crap.

:/ 40 grand is a lot for a 350z…

Who is this, Matt Millen? Actually, you’re a loser if you *live* in Michigan. Why don’t you quiet down and quit embarrassing yourself with your comments, and your college and pro football teams?

ill just go for the 06 model and pay less.

and btw, when did the GM fanatic guy come back?

Nissan in the past made a lot of car for the money. This would be a much better deal 4-5 grand less with 400 hp. Fat, under powered and overpriced killed the Z once.

I think we have a new Fanatic. This guy raves about the Pontiac G6, the other guy had an Avalanche i think.

BTW, the 350Z is awesome, but this doesn’t look like much an update. The power is welcome though and the wheels are gorgeous. That pic with the pewter one is my new desktop.

^^ Because you’re so credible.

Man I got really excited for a second until I saw the pictures. What a letdown.

its starting to get tired…needs a big update. when did they start building this? 03?

It did get a big update - from an engineering perspective. As for styling, it’s still pretty current, but then that’s a matter of opinion. Maybe Nissan has seen the latest barf-fests from DCX and is concerned about losing the target audiance the way Dodge and Chrysler have been slowly but surely.

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GMn°14ever…. here if you drive a GM you are f looser, they are the most unreliable pieces of trash and we have lots of models you dont see in usa and they even crappier GM n FORD sucks the only thing from usa that works is dodge

LLN needs to have an age limit to get rid of all the under 16 crowd that posts here. Why does the internet attract people that say “f looser” and use “n” instead of “and”? Who uses Gold as a symbol of strength? It’s one of, if not the softest, metals out there. Sigh, oh well.

As for the 350Z I think it would have been nice if they sacrificed some hp for down low torque. It wouldn’t win them the “hp war” but would help with the acceleration and undoubtedly the power curve. I haven’t seen the dyno for the new VQ, but if it’s anything like the old one a flatter power delivery would be welcome.

If you hate GM that’s one thing. But if you think that a Dodge is more reliable than a GM product or a Ford your way off! This is coming from someone that owns GM products and works for a Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep store. As for GM reliability its just as good as a Toyota as far as I’m concerned, I haven’t had any problems with mine. Michigan is a nice place to live, at least its much better than Texas, I hate it here in Dallas. The Lions do suck! Who cares though, this isn’t a discussion of sports. I guess I’m a real f-ing loser, I like Michigan and GM, but I could careless about the opinions of someone that can barley speak English.

“Here in Michigan, you’re an f’n loser if you drive a Nissan. They are more commonly found on the back of flatbeds than on the streets. Solstices and Sky’s slaughter these things daily while still being bulletproof reliable and built like gold.”

Lol. And that’s why Michigan blows.

I love how two of my friends both owned different model, different year Pontiacs but they both had the same problems. And after we disassembled their doors to fix the power windows, they were using ****ty stone-age pulley technology - WITHOUT the pulley. Awesome. And then when we ordered replacement parts, one from an official parts seller, and one from some cheap Chinese oem store, the Chinese part had the decency to improve the design with a pulley.

That and a piece of his bumper fell off one day and he just threw it in the trunk without another thought.

So the entire state of Michigan blows because of one person? OK! lol I bet I can find an idiot in any state or country I visit. So Earth blows I guess.

Good job for taking it literally. I guess I should harp on your spelling of “barely” after criticizing someone else for their command of English, but I chose to ignore it.

I’m keen on the this style. I’m glad they haven’t changed the front end yet. The slight price hike is still more than far, But I needs my dose of practicality so I’ll have to hold off on a Z-car for a while longer.

I love the “Z”.

LOVE THE “Z”!!!!

At least here in Michigan we have real cars driving around, not ****ty imports like this cheapass Nissan. That thing would be dismantled and thrown in the garbage if it came within 50ft of where I live. Show up here in an import and you are bound to have your car egged, keyed or torched.

The only thing imports are good for is keeping repair shops in business, and towtrucks idling. There are more imports littering the damn highways than there are actually running!

Thanks for pointing out my mistake! I didn’t criticize anyone based on one error, his whole argument made my head hurt from the stupidity of his comment. But I guess I do take things a little to literal sometimes, it isn’t hard to do when your on a web site where everyone is against you though.

GM#1fan must be GMrules. I lived in Michigan for 24 years, I saw lots of imports, and they weren’t being keyed or egged. Where do you live?

Michigan sucks ass. They have ****ty weather, ****ty cities, they build ****ty cars, have a REALLY ****ty real estate market, and from GMnumberone4ever’s post the inhabitants are ****-for-brains!

Nice updates on the Z. Too bad this car was 500lb too heavy and $5000 too expensive from day 1.

“At least here in Michigan we have real cars driving around, not ****ty imports like this cheapass Nissan. That thing would be dismantled and thrown in the garbage if it came within 50ft of where I live. Show up here in an import and you are bound to have your car egged, keyed or torched.”

Yeah, because reliability and quality really are functions of how hostile and violent ultra-nationalists are. The more you want to key the car, the worse it must be! Good arguments.

TO>GMnumberone4ever, i drive 350z, its not the best car out there, but its ok, talking about styling, just a few can match it, i think the problem with you is that your parents or maybe even you lost job because of downsizing/ job cutting and now you are mad.

I like this car (prefer the 300z) its always looked pretty good (especially in red) the g35 coupe also.

GMnumberone4ever must be GMrules all over again, and I’m disappointed another nutjob asshole fanatic is back here spewing pro GM bull**** propaganda left and right, but I’m pleased many people here aren’t really putting up with his crap.

To GMnumberone4ever, you’re a moron, the comments you make wouldn’t even apply to Michigan in the 1950’s, the height of the American car era, much less now, haha torched? egged? keyed? hahah what a joke, get over yourself

This car had a great aura to it when it first came out..now its just ordinary.
How is Nissan going to get people who aren’t car and engine enthusiasts to step into a dated design? Good luck…

Definitely better than a GM, although the Sky and Solstice turbos are nice.

It has the VQ35HR now, so at least there’s that. Shame it starts at $28,000.

That’s a steep entry fee into Nissan sportscars. The Sentra SE-R doesn’t count, sorry.

If you hate GM that’s one thing. But if you think that a Dodge is more reliable than a GM product or a Ford your way off! This is coming from someone that owns GM products and works for a Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep store. As for GM reliability its just as good as a Toyota as far as I’m concerned, I haven’t had any problems with mine. Michigan is a nice place to live, at least its much better than Texas, I hate it here in Dallas. The Lions do suck! Who cares though, this isn’t a discussion of sports. I guess I’m a real f-ing loser, I like Michigan and GM, but I could careless about the opinions of someone that can barley speak English.

Comment by bb_454, posted on January10 at 3:42 pm

Take it back. Dallas is infinitely better than anywhere in Michigan. You can walk around downtown Dallas with out getting shot or asked if you want to purchase drugs. Detroit has GM’s headquarters, the Cobo Conference Center and, the largest collection of crummy run down buildings in the USA. Thats it!

LamborghiniZ-
You need to stop being hypocritical. You need to pull your head out of Toyota/Honda/Nissan’s ass and wake up. American made vehicles are better than they were and Japanese made vehicles are getting worse. Yes, GMnumberone4ever is off base. But he is just spreading the same propaganda bull**** that you do about your “excellent” Japanese vehicles.

id still rather have an s2000

max- maybe GM is good in USA but in the resto of the world SUX i can tell you that opel corsa opel astra in europe or in south america chevrolet astra corsa aveo etc are killing GM brand most unreliable cars around…. even de the ford fiesta is like 1000 times better

The 350Z is a nice car, but whoever designed that interior needs to be fired. CHEAP! Get rid of the acres of hard black plastic and put something nice there.

Spiffy, but I’m not liking the new hood.

Sorry I’m not retracting anything I said, lol. I don’t care for Dallas, the people are smug and stuck up. I never once had anyone shoot me, stab me or try to sell me drugs in Michigan. I was in Detroit, Flint and Pontiac quite often, which are all supposed to be terrible areas. The Lions are a terrible football team, the Spartans sucked this year, but U of M did great. Anyway this is played out. I thought this was an enthusiast site, not an anti GM, Michigan, Detroit, America etc. site. They changed the hood? Guess I don’t look at enough 350z’s. The only thing I never like about this car was the interior, I think it was the door panels that just seemed boring, and I thought it should have had more power. I liked the G35 more.

Nissan may have upped the horsepower, but they keep dropping the torque… thats not helping much

save your money for a GTR

Hey Michigan Sucks, they got their ass KICKED by USC

aside from this Michigan bull**** how about discussing the 350Z. its a great car but it does have many problems. it’s over priced, overweight, and and from a perspective poorly designed. The problem with this car is that Nissan wants it too due to much. Each element of the car had different intentions so to speak. Like the car has a great exterior which hints its a luxurious sports car. the interior is ****ty, and does not match the exterior of the car. the engine was pretty much intended for another car cuz it has no torque and all horsepower. more torque would be idle for the acceleration and if used properly would help a lot with the handling. like someone already said it has traction control and i don’t know why. i think it is cuz if it doesn’t have traction control it would sound bad when being advertised. people believe that traction control is something good. the car being advertised to too many demographics and Nissan is losing focus as a company when it comes to this car. this car has great potential if Nissan can get a grip and try to stay focused. and GMnumberone4ever your a fuking moron for thinking that a Miata is a ****ty car.

boring car… it was cool when it first came out…

PONTICRAP?, ughhhhh… thats the car that i say to myself, the person who bought that car has no sense of style and must be a freakin weirdo………..

I agree. Enough about Michigan. A very talented girl I know who shoots for motion pictures originated from Michigan. She’s as smart as they come with the work to show for it.

Anyway, this looks like a stopgap 350Z until full redesign which will probably come around the introduction of the GT-R.

I’m more interested in the compact RWD Nissan may build and sell beneath the Z.

I think Nissan are using this as a stopgap until spring 2008 when the z06 destroying 500bhp $50,000-64,000 Nissan GR-R hits the streets.

“40K is alot for a 350z… ”

that’s still cheaper than what those loser British have to pay
$62,000 FOR THE ROADSTER.

they cannot make the 350Z TOO light (z06/EVO/STI LIGHT) over wise it will harm sales of the upcoming Nissan GT-R which is Nissan’s flagship automobile just like the Corvette zo6 is GM’s and the NSX-R IS Honda’s (japan only)

they should have given the car more exterior updates, this is getting boring.

^^You’re right about the exterior updates. People look for that first, and then the “under the skin” changes are an added bonus once the vehicle is purchased. You need the exterior changes to get people into the showroom sometimes (not enthusiasts, mind you, I’m talking general public). Not crazy about the pricing, either. No way do I want to pay $40,000 for one of these.

As for all the Michigan comments…why do any of you bother with GMRules or whatever his current name is? He’s only posting stuff like that to stir the pot. Most of the time, he’s dead wrong. I’ve lived in Michigan for over 20 years, and there are plenty of imports on the road that are not the target of vandalism on a daily basis. Sure, there are the die-hards around who only buy domestic, but you have to keep in mind that some of the domestic vehicles are company-provided (GM does this for the 8th level and above employees), or the person got a great employee discount on the vehicle. Considering the deals to be had between the employee discount and the incentives, you’d be crazy to buy anything else. Unless, of course, you really like paying tons of money for your vehicle.

FYI for those of you in Michigan, if you don’t believe me about the company vehicles, take a look at the lower left corner of the windshield on a GM vehicle the next time you see it on the road. If there’s a little barcode label there, then it’s a GM-provided vehicle. They put regular plates on them so that it doesn’t look like they are company provided and so that the general public will see the vehicles on the road and maybe be intrigued.

All you Nissan freaks need to get your heads out of your asses. Nissans are ****, the public knows it and everyone here at LLN can attest to that. Don’t be jealous assholes, do something about it.

GM dealers love tradeins

Hmm. Not excited about this update. I have a 350z and am biased so take this with a grain of salt.

I disagree with you all on the price. 40k for a roadster (coupe is 36K) that can beat a Porsche Boxter? Not bad. Note that the enthusiast can be had for less than 30k.

The hp rating IS getting silly. They keep dropping torque to up hp. Torgue gets you off the line- HP helps you pull at the top end. I doubt that most Z drivers will ever see the 6hp that was added but they’ll feel the torque at every light and every shift. Some say the update smooths out the engine. Whatever

I think the 3.5VQ engine works extremely well in the Z -giving it the right compromise of power and efficiency as compared to gas guzzling V8’s and Turbo/Superchargers. Also Traction Control is great on a RWD in the wet. The VDC sucks though

Amazing You pay extra for traction. Not much of a change in looks

Sorry, but this thing gets its ass handed to it by either Evo or STI, 2 main competitors.
I could hardly pick out ANY changes in the looks of the new one. I’d still take a G35 over it any day. Even a IS350 with it’s bland styling will, at least, kick its ass in a straight line.
I love the VQ engine. The 4 liter in my Frontier would have been perfect in the new Z, tuned for more hp it could have put out 330hp and still made 280lbft.

Evo and STi are not competiors to the 350Z. Evo is a FWD or AWD rally car. STI, AWD rally car. The FWD Mitsubishi Eclipse is suppose to be the competition, but fails terribly.

Jazz, I hear ya. It’s a great car. In fact, it’s pretty amazing considering that the 350Z shares it’s platform with the Infiniti FX. Personally I drive an XTerra Offroad and that thing hauls ass. And that weighs a half ton more! I’ve driven the Enthusiast edition and it’s great. I’m not sure what people expect for $30k, but take a look at what’s on the market in that price point and I think they’ll find a new fondness for what the 350Z offers.

If I hear any more about ‘plastics’, I’m gonna puke. Cost benefit analysis… I’d rather have performance and quality over having some designer plastic interior that makes me feel warm and cozy. What else do you want? Leather and precious metals??

350Z, coming to a Fast and the Furious Movie near you. There’s a reason why everyone in this class skips over the crappy Nissan and goes for the Corvette or the GTO boys. No amount of updating is going to stop it from being a POS econobox. Ricers don’t know what hit them when I blow past them in my Pontiac G6, imagine how they must feel being dusted by a vette.

Imagine how Nissan must feel being dusted by GM.

lol- the GTO? The car that GTO fans rejected? Where is the 2007 GTO? Canceled due to lack of demand.

G6 is not even RWD and gives up 80+Hp to the Z

How is this news when the sales brochure was in dealer racks two or three weeks ago? The only discernable change is the retro-70s Z hood bulge and 20-some horsepower.. hardly a “reveal” of any consequence.

“too due to much”?!?!?! Good lord, three misspelled/misused words in a row.. how stupid can one person be?

Here is another thing I want topoint out.

350Z $28,000
300+hp
Great over-all performance.
Great Looking
Great Engine…
And the list can go one
I rather spend $32k on a touring model V6 then a $34k EVO-Mr thats a 4 banger. If anything I would get the WRX-STI because of there great boxer engine. Subaru is also one of those underated car lines.

Nissan Product which to some may not know this, but its the Product line of choice in Japan due to its racing heritage, Realiability, and of course durability…not Honda, Not Toyota, Not even Subaru or Mitsubishi has the rep that Nissan has.

So that said…..The Z is the perfect car for that prce andperformance.
NUFF SAID

-AMEN-

The last 350Z won its class in Car & Drivers new standard for car performance “lightning lap”, where Car and Driver is testing cars all new cars as a standard bearer. Like “the ring” in Germany is used. It was a full second faster around that track then a Evo MR. The new car should be even a bit faster. Cant wait to drive this car, and the upcoming new Evo and WRX. Rally cars rule.

GMnumberone4ever, you are just stupid…