04/10/2006, 6:01 PM

Toyota News

Next Prius to offer 94 mpg?

The next Toyota Prius will offer an astonishing 113 mpg, according to a report in the U.K.’s AutoExpress magazine. (Note: 113 mpg in the U.K. is equal to 94 mpg here in North America). “The whole electrical system has been redesigned to improve economy” said a Toyota engineer was quoted as saying. “We are working on a prototype that runs solely on the electric motor in slow traffic, but switches to engine and motor drive when higher speeds are needed.” The 0-62 mph time will also be improved by more than a second, according to the report, bringing it to well under 10 seconds. Much of the improvement can be attributed to the use of lithium-ion batteries instead of nickel-hydride units. The lithium-ion batteries are smaller, lighter, and have greater electrical output.

 
 

04/10, 6:11 PM

posted by:

Derek

IT CAN FLY TOO!!! Thats impressive if its TRUE.

04/10, 6:11 PM

posted by:

Anonymous

i would def trade in my car now if this new prius could actually get that mileage.

04/10, 6:14 PM

posted by:

smorgan

What’s better - upgrading your 51 mpg Prius to a 113 mpg Prius, or upgrading you 10 mpg truck to a 12 mpg truck, assuming you drive 1000 miles a month?

1000 miles / 51 mpg = 19.6 gallons
1000 miles / 113 mpg = 8.9 gallons
—–
Prius 1 to Prius 2 = 10.7 gallon difference

1000/ 10 = 100 gallons
1000/ 12 = 83 gallons
—–
10 mpg truck to 12 mpg truck = 17 gallon difference

04/10, 6:25 PM

posted by:

nate

how about upgrading your 10mpg truck to a 113mpg prius…

04/10, 6:27 PM

posted by:

Derek

“how about upgrading your 10mpg truck to a 113mpg prius…”

as long as my 7 person family fits in it and it can pull our jet skis.

04/10, 6:31 PM

posted by:

JW

What about horseower? That’s something the Prius lacks

04/10, 7:59 PM

posted by:

Carlos

Eh, if you have jet skis you’re already pretty bad for the environment and getting a Prius would be pretty incongruent.

04/10, 8:31 PM

posted by:

Madcapp

Maybe Toyota could make a Prius Jetski that gets 113 nautical miles per gallon

04/10, 8:46 PM

posted by:

Mike

This should worry the other car manufacturers… I drive a Mazda Protege that gets almost 40mpg. I’ll bang down the door of my local Toyota dealership if this 100mpg Prius pans out!

04/10, 8:49 PM

posted by:

Mike

We’ve all been there, hauling our horses, jet skis, livestock, heavy machinery, and a trailer full of Hostess Twinkies off to work every morning. This Prius definitely can’t do that.

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04/10, 9:01 PM

posted by:

Sean

Hard to imagine MOST people need to carry that much stuff everyday. If people only need it 20% of the time, why not USE it 20% of the time? If I fly twice a week, does that mean I should buy a plane and fly everywhere I go? When does doing something become impractical?

04/10, 9:10 PM

posted by:

William

In England, I saw many a sedan (saloon) towing a travel trailer (Airstream-type)that easily weighed more than a couple of jet skis. Also primarily their cars have manual transmissions, which probably helps a little.

04/10, 9:19 PM

posted by:

John Purdy

113 mpg in the U.K. is equal to 113 mpg here in Canada.Or 94 mpg in America
Sorry but as of yet, all North America isn’t the U.S.A

04/10, 9:35 PM

posted by:

Jim

need trucks to transport large objects, go ahead and get a truck.
For those who need a human transporter, this Prius is good.
Think of it as the Prius drivers save gas, so there is more for truckers to use. Overall, gas is saved, so everybody is happy.
In a few more decades, Toyota will build intercontinental subways with vehicles that travel at mach 1 at 1000mpg. Just because the Japanese workaholics are that good, and they work 25 hours a day, 10 days a week.

04/10, 9:39 PM

posted by:

a guy

Electric has higher torque at low speeds, while petrol has higer torque at high speeds. Electric motors are actually better for lowspeed/high power jobs like towing– IF the system has been designed with that in mind.

04/10, 9:42 PM

posted by:

manny

well, the current prius doesnt actually get 60 mpg, unless you drive like… grandma? i dunno.
so whos to say this is any more accurate than an epa fuel milage test?

04/10, 9:47 PM

posted by:

asdf asdrf

WHAT ABOUT A TAIL FIN?!

04/10, 10:36 PM

posted by:

Random Reader

Who really cares about saving the environment? I mean, yes, I care. But I’m not going to pay a damn premium on a prius so I can save the world. I’m going to pay the premium because it’s an investment and will save me money in the long run. $2.50 a gallon adds up!

04/10, 10:47 PM

posted by:

Anonymous

OK, so maybe you can get 113mpg in this new Prius. Do you honestly think you’re doing the environment some good? Well, actually it may be worse. In case you didn’t know, batteries are toxic to the environment; especially lithium-ion. What’s worse? Maybe the fact that rechargeable batteries only have a few years of lifespan. This means you’ll most likely be replacing those batteries before you replace the car. In the event you decide not to replace the batteries, you’ll lose the gas mileage performance. Once again, has anyone thought about the implications of getting in a wreck with a Prius? There is a great chance of batteries being destroyed and thrown throughout the environment. What I dislike is people with these hybrid cars thinking they’re doing everyone a favor when they’re really not. If you really want to do everyone a favor, buy a bicycle, walk, or take public transportation. If you do that, there would be no one able to argue with you.

04/10, 10:58 PM

posted by:

engineer

a mile is the same distance no matter where you go, the english system is metric so they are on KPH. 113 kph is the equiv. to 70 mpg…..where the h@$$ did you come up with 94???

04/10, 11:05 PM

posted by:

Guy

Have you forgot that not everyone lives two blocks from work, or near public transportation.

04/10, 11:06 PM

posted by:

Kent W.

From batteryuniversity.com:

Lithium (metal) batteries contain no toxic metals, however, there is the possibility of fire if the metallic lithium is exposed to moisture while the cells are corroding. Most lithium batteries are non-rechargeable and are used in cameras, hearing aids and defense applications. For proper disposal, the batteries must first be fully discharged to consume the metallic lithium content.
Lithium-ion batteries used for cell phones and laptops do not contain metallic lithium and the disposal problem does not exist.

04/10, 11:07 PM

posted by:

line

i think the overlying bottom line is that (sorry for beating a dead horse) toyota will very soon become the leader in our automotive industry. and to those of you who think “hybrids require 140% more energy to make than a pickup” or stuff like that, remember, it’s about the atmostphere, stupid.

04/10, 11:08 PM

posted by:

Guy

Engineer, the US have a different gallon unit, so that’s why mpg varies between countries. It has nothing to do with the distance of a mile.

04/10, 11:14 PM

posted by:

mike

I bet by the time this gets released there will be a new vehicle out that gets 150mpg… Maybe I will just never leave my house and then gas won’t be a problem. I do have a garden in my backyard and some goats for food and extra curricular activities.

04/10, 11:18 PM

posted by:

Jim

engineer, please don’t ever work on any international projects. Thank you for your cooperation.

04/10, 11:22 PM

posted by:

Scott

For those who want a truck that can tow your jetskis and still get 60 MPG:

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7002397595

I guess we’ll see if it’s real in 2008….

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04/10, 11:35 PM

posted by:

Doug

If you think the batteries are expensive now in the Prius wait until they release this. I think hydraulic is the way to go.

04/11, 12:11 AM

posted by:

Angelo

It’ll do 90+ mpg in EPA testing, that’s like 45 mpg in real life. :)

04/11, 12:29 AM

posted by:

anon

i just love eating microwave popcorn in the back seat of my big, crew cab 4×4 pick-up while watching woody woodpecker videos, when it gets all over then i get out my vacuum and sweep it all up. last weekend i went to a carnival and i got some cotton candy and i watched a goofy dvd as i drove home. i like icecream, especially in the summer when it’s really hot, pink bubblegum is my favorite except whe it gets on my seats as i’m driving in that lane with the cute little diamond thingys. i cant decide if i want to wear a polo, khakis and loafers tomorrow or just a shirt and tie with dress pants. my truck is so fun i cant wait to go sit in it some more and watch snow white

04/11, 12:34 AM

posted by:

anon

mike you wouldnt be against illegal immigrants if you had your own housemaid and gardener. they wash my truck every weekend while i watch marykate and ashley dvds in my truck while eating tuna salad croisant sandwiches

04/11, 12:40 AM

posted by:

jojo

http://calcars.org/priusplus.html

Also, the world record for mileage is over ten thousand MPG. Look for “Shell EcoMarathon”, “MicroJoule”, “Team Fancy Carol”, etc.

04/11, 12:42 AM

posted by:

Heydn

Any updates on that Ford hydraulic hyrbid prototype?

04/11, 12:43 AM

posted by:

Muse

Wow, lots of misinformation flying around on this topic. For the record, batteries are no more toxic or dangerous in an accident than gasoline. Reverse the question, suppose we’ve been driving battery powered cars for 100 years, and some company suddenly wants to add flammable, explosive gasoline to our cars. Imagine the uproar!

04/11, 12:47 AM

posted by:

CTR

#13 and #17 anyone that knows anything about towing knows a manual transmission is rated by the manufacturers at about 1/3 to 1/2 the towing capability of an automatic. None of the mfgs recommend towing any significant amount with a electric hybrid vehicle, bring it in once with tranny problems from overheating and they will void your warranty so fast it will make your head spin.

04/11, 12:59 AM

posted by:

David

My only concern with using Lithium-ion batteries is their lifespan. If they’re anything like laptop batteries you’ll need to replace them every 2-3 years and that adds up to a LOAD of money.

04/11, 1:01 AM

posted by:

Rocket Punch

Hyrbid is definitely the future! Cause I don’t see myself getting one anytime soon…….

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04/11, 2:39 AM

posted by:

gt2porsche

its impressive and all but why do these companies have to make hybrids look so stupid. i didnt realize that just because it gets more mileage it has to look like a space ship from planet moron. if hey made em look like normal cars, even make em look like sports cars to increase their appeal, even i might consider getting one. but for now im very happy burning gas and going fast and looking good while doing it

04/11, 3:01 AM

posted by:

anon.

Whydon’t they just use capacitors?

last faaaar longer than batteries. slightly more expensive, but you can dump the charge to/from them like nobodies business, which is the current reason the hybrid cars are so slow at acceleration. batteries can’t dump a charge worth squat. (compared to caps…)

imho. batteries are a foolish way to improve the cost/friendliness of cars.

Also…

How much does a hybrid cost? Now… what about the raw materials to make all that plastic? What about the batteries? Now… what about replacing the batteries at LEAST every 3-5 years? Hell… my MOTORCYCLE battery is $50…

I’d rather take a regular (or better yet.. diesel, or even BIO-DIESEL) car that lasts 15 years with minimal/decent mainenence than a hybrid you have to replace every 5 years. (enter… the new diesel honda civic…IIRC)

manufacturing 3 new hybrid’s in the lifespan of a single, well built car… how much gas [the hybrid] uses is trivial compared to the ammout of oil/other resources that are used to make it over the cost of a regular car.

04/11, 3:40 AM

posted by:

Jim

There was a story about the Prius’s development,
http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/17/news/companies/mostadmired_fortune_toyota/index.htm

Since 1993, Toyota has tried 80 designs of hybrids to find the one they use today.
I would think capacitors have bad safety/heat issues.
If a capacitor that big blows up, the whole car would be blown into smithereens. Which is cool if you build it for an action movie starring Governor Schwarzenegger.

04/11, 5:55 AM

posted by:

Keith

This is impressive! I have been a lover for Toyota models since I was young. I was hoping I could get to own a Lexus (a family branch of Toyota) in the near future. However, with this model, I’ll still be glad if I could get something similar to this. One good thing about Toyota is that the engineering design places high priorities on energy efficiency together with comfort, which is somehow lacking in some most european cars. Brilliant!

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04/11, 8:03 AM

posted by:

Bob Butts

04/11, 8:59 AM

posted by:

Shane

So I wrote a comment linking to my blog, where I actually provide a link to the source of this story and the comment is no longer here. I just wonder how long this comment will stay. Anyone reading this e-mail me at cellounge@gmail.com to let me know. I understand that this is their blog, but when you delete a comment just for the fact that you don’t want your readers to find a source of your articles is pretty lame. I have seen quite a few posts here where you will never know the source, and to me thats unethical. Where is the editorial process or the fact checking.

Here is a new story, giant spaghetti monsters invented the automobile. Source: Take a wild guess!

04/11, 9:51 AM

posted by:

Karnov

I would rock a car that got 113MPG. I wouldn’t care if my knees hit the windshield. It would make one of them very viable to drive for the extra price diffrence.

04/11, 10:38 AM

posted by:

Chuck

The goal should not be to get better miles per gallon. It shouldn’t be Hydrogen vs Hybrids… The over-all goal needs to be ZERO emmissions. It needs to be no combustion. It needs to be no heat produced by combustion. Hydrogen at the heart of it still produces heat. The closest thing I’ve seen thus far is the car that runs on Air! Make these available and I’ll be the first in line.

http://www.theaircar.com/

04/11, 11:27 AM

posted by:

Scott

Problems with the air car:

Don’t you think driving around with highly compressed tanks of air is a little spooky? What would happen if you got in an accident?

It also has minimal range when operating on air alone. (I wonder if they could build a hybrid system light enough to be effective in these–using lightweight batteries or hydrolics…)

Also, there is the obvious problem of where to get the energy to compress the air before it goes in the car. Until we ramp up wind, solar, and other zero-emissions technologies (which hopefully don’t cause other environmental problems of their own), the car is still going to cause air pollution indirectly.

04/11, 11:55 AM

posted by:

wdstrong

Awesome. 94mpg. I like that.
The UK gallon is actually larger than the US gallon.
But highway mpg is still my major concern. I live in the boonies, not a city where the hybrids have a great advantage. If I could get 94mpg at a steady 65-75mph I would be all over that car. I have a 120 mile commute to and from work everyday.

So whatever happened to the diesels that were supposed to get huge MPG and still have decent power?

Bill Strong
Racing Strong Motorsports

04/11, 12:38 PM

posted by:

CRAZYKIDS

hmmm should i be a good person and buy something that will save me money or be a badass and buy an h1 alpha

04/11, 2:52 PM

posted by:

Mark

Well I’d gladly welcome a new Prius with better fuel consumption. I work as a IT field engineer over here in England (more specifically the London area and SE England) when I’m working up London I am regularly overtaken by cyclist’s whilst sitting in one of Londons many car parks (some people call them roads but when you spend more time stationary it seems like your parked!) and the whole time this stop start ruins your fuel economy, even with my current diesel after a day up central london i’m lucky if I can get 35MPG from my Pug 407SW! Hence I’m thinking of getting the Prius as my company car, not only will I get better fuel consumption but due to the low emmisions I save a packet on company car tax!

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04/11, 3:24 PM

posted by:

bitter idiot

“as long as my 7 person family fits in it and it can pull our jetskis”

Spoken like true American. Why must more be better? More kids, more (fuel consuming) toys, more discarded garbage in the landfills, more sewage into our water, more power plants to fuel our addiction, more ignorance…more more more!

04/11, 5:40 PM

posted by:

Donny

As a Prius owner AND an Escalade owner I realize the necessity of having one vehicle to tow, and one to commute. I saved over $7500 on my commute to work last year by purchasing the Prius, and when I take my snowmobile to Mammoth I use the Escalade. Common sense prevails.

I personally prefer driving my Prius as opposed to my Escalade. It’s fun and actually has a considerable amount of torque available. If the 2008 gets anywhere close to 90 MPG I’ll be first in line. Anyone who drives in excess of 15000 miles a year will absolutely benefit from this technology. You can thank me later.

I’ve found that most nay-sayers out there lack college education. That’s OK because you probably couldn’t afford a Prius anyway. Go ahead and stay poor with your leased 4×4 suburban land yacht and your seven illegitimate children.

04/11, 5:41 PM

posted by:

Ron

I have to agree with “bitter idiot”. I’m an American working in the car industry, and I believe the consumerism in the US is a major environmental problem for the planet. We consume 6X per person in energy of all types as compared to the global average - it’s absolutely not sustainable. It’s not our god-given right to consume at that level, and we need to be more concientious of our responsibility to a sustainable planet. Okay, off the soapbox. To “wdstrong” I suspect that the highway economy is not much better than the current Prius (which is great - don’t get me wrong). The increased fuel economy is coming from a larger battery pack which helps the around-town driving bigtime, but once that energy is exhausted, your highway range is mostly a function of the ICE and the aerodynamics of that platform. So, on the highway (and after 10 miles or so), the bigger battery doesn’t help. To “chuck” I mostly agree with you - but it’s really about CO2 and emissions. Hydrogen consumption in a fuel cell is one example of a technology that does not create CO2. Heat is actually OK - we get 100000x the energy we use every day in the form of sunlight. Clearly, the planet can shed heat, if we don’t blanket it with GHG’s.

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04/11, 7:44 PM

posted by:

Ian Wilson

The United Kindom is not yet metric. Still Imperial,hence the name.

Although we are not allowed to by fruit by the pound, we can and do buy beer by the pint and fuel by the (imperial)gallon.

Finding solutions to transporting either your seven kids or just yourself and your ego may not be as simple as a more fuel efficient car.
Consumerism is still consumerism even if your purchase is the latest eco friendly car. You will need to own and drive your prius for a long time for its efficiency to offset its manufacturing enviromental cost. Presently I own two cars, one a modern diesel used by my wife to transport kids, shopping trips etc. The other a old bmw which rarly comes out of the garage. My own daily transport is either public or hire car.
My company has close links with a large hire firm that never fails to deliver a car within an hour of me calling them, if its for work the company pays, if its for me I pay. This seems to work for me. And if I do ever revert to petrolhead mode I can dig the beemer out. Not very good for the car industry, but a very good way of getting about , being pretty green and owning a fast V8.
If the next hire car they bring is electric, who cares as long as it works, but it will only really be eco friendly if its still working in 10 years.

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04/12, 12:17 PM

posted by:

mark

UK is metric, you buy your pertol in litres not gallons.

04/12, 6:08 PM

posted by:

Anonymous

For those of you who are concerned about battery life in a Prius, the battery in the current Prius is rated to last more than 10+ years. The ICE will die before the battery does. The US government stopped testing the battery life after more tha 100K miles of testing the battery, and it still retained more than 90% of its charge capacity.

04/12, 10:51 PM

posted by:

Ian Wilson

Bugger, Too many pints before writing. The UK does generally measure fuel use by mile per gallon.

04/13, 5:11 PM

posted by:

prius owner

I bought a Prius because I expect gas prices to rise inexorably as the Indian and Chinese economies suck up an ever greater % of the limited oil reserves. I also don’t plan to be driving anything that I can’t provide the fuel for myself, locally, in 25 years when oil products will probably be reserved for the military assuming there is any left by then.

Everyone who has commented on the blind consumerism of the USA needs to look at society overall. We consume because the Capitalist economic model says we must in order to get access to essentils like food. That’s not ideology, just economics. Unless we find a way to change the model for the way we live it really won’t matter a hill of beans whether we get 13 or 113 mpg from oil based vehicles. Moving food from the farms to the cities in the volumes we need for the populations we have in densely populated urban areas without massive amounts of surplus energy (fuel) is impractical.

Fuel cells are really conceptually no different than a battery. Hydrogen does not exist in its free state and so require another energy source to release it. Then it has to be compressed and distributed. Think Electric, Biomass whatever, the numbers are huge in terms of the energy requirements.

Draw your own conclusions….

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04/21, 9:45 PM

posted by:

ice out

Regarding the earlier posts re: hydraulics:

Has anyone here tried to make anything hydraulic work on a deep-subzero Midwest January morning? Unless you’re lucky (and rich) enough to have aircraft hyd fluid in whatever you’re fighting with, fuhgetaboutit! :)

Which brings up questions on the Prius. I wonder how well a Prius works on the really miserable Siberian days, the ones that warm UP to -20F. Does it keep the engine warmed? Can the heater/defroster keep up?

Then again, on days like that you’re better of hibernating because nothing outdoors will work anyway, so maybe it’s a non-issue. :)

04/21, 10:08 PM

posted by:

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04/26, 4:06 PM

posted by:

laughing all the way to the bank

Driving to work, I always see lots of men in their bold big liftted trucks. Now with gas approaching 3.50+ a gallon, these macho men don’t look or feel so hot in their boyhood trucks. What is the purpose of driving one of these gas - guzzling gas wasting trucks. I saw one the other day trying to drive 40mph on the highway, trying to save gas. Then later, I saw this big truck that was lifted, and carrying a tiny little box…..WOW, it takes all that waste to carry something that you could throw into your glove box. My little prius, travels at 80mph and I consistently get 48mpg…. Until America learns to stop driving these gas wasting, gaz guzzling pieces of retarted steel, will they realize that when the hybrid technology was being talked about in the early - late 70’s, by Toyota, and others, GM - who was run by the “Good” ole Boys, just laughted, and said, we don’t need no stinking hybrid technology , we’ll stick to our muscle cars. Well Today, GM, the end result is that you are scrambling to save you ass in the market. No longer are you the world leader, and you design in cars stink, and are NOT fuel efficient. More concerned about profits than asking what the consumer really wanted…. Now, You are paying the price….. Have a happy time trying to salvage the company…..GM = GREAT MESS

04/26, 6:14 PM

posted by:

worried about the planet

I’m pretty sure more people would get hybrids if they were affordable. Aren’t they about $10K more than their counterparts? You can get a new Sentra for about $12K for pete’s sake. I can’t believe a different engine costs TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS more than a regular gas engine. Plus, most hybrids are BUTT UGLY. You may as well wear a rainbow wig and a bright red nose while driving one. Can’t they just put one of those ten thousand dollar engines in a Corolla? I just don’t get it.

04/26, 6:18 PM

posted by:

worried about the planet

Okay, I just checked the Ford website, the difference between the 2006 Escape and 2006 Escape Hybrid is $7520. But still. What the heck in the new engine costs over SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS????

04/27, 1:14 PM

posted by:

Todd Firer

The ignorance of those who have never owned a Prius but have all kinds of comments about them, not based upon any kind of facts whatsoever, is astonishing. True Republicans, for sure. I’ve owned four hybrids, including 3 Prius’s and: #1 A Prius actually costs less than a comparably equipped Camry, which is the car it should be compared to since they are both classified as mid-size cars. Add in the $3,150 tax credit, and the Prius costs considerably LESS THAN A GAS POWERED CAMRY. #2 The new Prius has plenty of power, matter of fact, it will blow away pretty most gas powered 4 cylinders cars, the first generation Prius, 2001-2003, was a dog, but the new one is very powerful. #3 It is entirely possible to get the EPA estimates in gas mileage with a Prius, you just have to drive intelligently, but, even if you don’t drive it for max gas mileage, it will still get 47 to 48 mpg most of the time. #4 The Prius holds its value like no other car in the world, we traded in our 2004 for a 2006 and, received $19,000 for it, we paid $22,400, tax included, so it cost us $3,400 in depreciation to drive the 2004 for two years, that’s an 85% retention of value! And, with the tax credit, our 2006 cost less than $20,000, completely loaded with side airbags and traction control. #5 The batteries have, so far, lasted forever, i.e., with rare exceptions, the batteries have not had to be replaced on any Prius. So you Prius haters, learn some facts before you shoot off your mouths and confirm your ignorance.

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05/03, 7:23 PM

posted by:

Big Don

Most of the negative comments against hybrids are really out of ignorance.

#1. I need to seat more than two people. Hello!!! other than the Honda Insight, the hybrids vehicles available right now will seat at least 5.

#2. The battery will be replaced in 3 years. OK if it malfunctions yes, I got a TV that conked out in 3 years should they stop making TVs too. Toyota hybrids come with a warranty for hybrid components for seven and it may be 8 years now. Besides in most cases you need not have to replace the whole battery but “battery packs” of which there are several in one battery unit. As we make more and more of these units, the prices will come down. Remember when VCRs used to cost $1,200. five years later you could get one for $200. Now they are giving it away.

#3 Why do they make it so weird looking. Again except for the HOnda Insight (which nobody buys anyway) all the available hybrids have the same body as the original gas version (except the Prius which doesnt have a gasoline only counterpart).

#4. It only gets 44mpg not 61. And that is bad?

#5. It doesnt really save me money.

The worst case scenrio you break even. But!!!! arent you just sick and tired of being at the mercy of OPEC? I mean I would pay extra just to be able to stick it to those guys. Being a hybrid owner, by making fewer visits to the gas pump, I feel like i am giving OPEC the finger. And let me tell you, it is More than worth the price of admission.

05/03, 11:26 PM

posted by:

R

*** ATTENTION!!! ***

Don’t worry about towing or horsepower or looking good in the “Prius.” Why? Because “GM” will soon release the new an improved “Hybrid Hummer,” estimated to yield 12 mpg! So go to your local dealer and reserve one today all you crybabies!

“Long live the horse!”

05/10, 8:12 AM

posted by:

lance Merritt » On the verge

[...] 94 miles to the gallon? [...]

05/23, 11:48 PM

posted by:

Mark

Is the new model the 2007?? (has anyone read the AutoExpress magazine article)? I assume it is a Plug-In Rechargeable Hybrid Electric Vehicle (PHEV) and some of its 100mpg performance comes at the cost of depleting the batteries, which means it requires recharging at night to get 100mpg AGAIN the next day. But at equivalent energy cost of about $1/gallon (off-peak commercial rate) - PLUG ME IN!!!

05/29, 1:25 PM

posted by:

smarterthanyou

why don”t toyota people get off their @$$E$ and start making a hybrid version of their current cars…
daimler chrystler has a LOT of prototypes already, including a minivan, a bus, and a cargovan!
F*ck hybrids…… go hydrogen!

07/21, 8:59 PM

posted by:

lloyd Button

1500 miles per gallon @ $3 per gallon of gasoline vs 20 mile charge cost 5 cents.
Electric bikes typically travel at speeds of 10 to 20+ miles per hour and go up to 12-20 miles charge. Charging your electric bike for four to six hours uses 5 cents worth of electricity from common 110 wall outlets. The electric bike power can give you a break from pedaling or supply more power when you’re going up hill.
http://www.bicycles-electric-bikes.com/bike_to_work.htm

Americans love nature and the out of doors, it is part of our national heritage. Many people have come to experience nature out the window of a car, while sliding down a ski slope or on TV. Given the opportunity to enjoy the out of doors on a silent, affordable urban transit enthusiasts will choose to do so. The electric bicycle is silent, does not stink or vibrate, is inexpensive and reliable.

Electric Bikes appeal to all recreational riders, and many other market segments. Seniors want to get outdoors and get exercise, but are not always able to pedal themselves up a hill. Historically fitness and outdoors oriented, will turn to electric bicycles as a way to extend their present habits and preferences. Commuters frustrated with traffic congestion, and rising costs of car ownership, find electric bicycles a very practical transportation choice. When used as a power assisted bike, the rider’s input can be enhanced, and can continue over a longer period of time than on a regular bike.

08/17, 8:58 AM

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homebusiness

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